Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 12:24     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris and VP expectations
I mean, even many Democrats criticize her.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 12:20     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does a VP do?

Seriously.

There were like 50 white guys before Harris, but she gets the media harassment from questionable media sources.



Ah, playing the race card yet again, I see. *Every* VP gets media harassment from questionable sources, which you would know if you over the age of say, 12.


They were poked fun of for their gaffes but tell me about one other time that a VP was criticized for not meeting expectations of the position. Entirely different. Because when women or people of color are the subject, the bar is raised. It’s wrong.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 11:14     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
Anonymous wrote:I've lived through 12 different Vice Presidents and yet can't think of many noteworthy or significant accomplishments of any of them. But I guess we're supposed to hold Harris up to a different standard?


I guess—the same standard we applied to Quayle.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 11:14     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
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Anonymous wrote:The main reason we are focusing on her is that Joe is old and there’s more than a slight chance she could be the next POTUS or candidate if he chooses not to run. It’s kind of unique and the stakes are very high.


Is there a way to change running mates while giving her (and the ticket) a soft landing?


No. But you will feel much better about Kamala Harris when you see who Donald Trump picks for his VP, I promise!


LOL. You think Trump will be nominated.
Who do you think the Republicans are going to nominate?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 11:00     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris and VP expectations
Whatever the expectations are, she seems to be falling short. Is she a moron? It didn’t seem that way prior to her becoming VP.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 10:37     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
I've lived through 12 different Vice Presidents and yet can't think of many noteworthy or significant accomplishments of any of them. But I guess we're supposed to hold Harris up to a different standard?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 10:12     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
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Anonymous wrote:I have had many of the same thoughts. We kind of expect VPs to be less than optimal. I think the problem- at least my problem-- is that I bought the line that Kamala was going to be more of an asset to this administration. I was saying things like, "well Biden might be basically dead but even more out of touch than a dead person, but at least we get Kamala out of this deal." She's been a disappointment precisely because we had higher expectations for her vs other VPs.


Interesting. I can’t say I had high expectations for her from a results perspective (what results can a VP really deliver?). I was really pumped about her selection because I thought she checked a lot of boxes, but was a little wet behind the ears and still too much the “smug attorney.” I just wanted her to be a diplomat who made us proud by traveling the globe, shaking hands and kissing babies, and in the process building up her presidential bona fides. I think they tried to give her projects that were, frankly, impossible (I think the border was her first task? Ouch). She learned too late that scoffing and laughing are not a good look for the stage she’s now on, even though they worked for her before. She can’t overcome both the republican smears (she’s a woman and she’s black: too easy a target) and her early missteps.


Harris is following the progressive agenda playbook. Unite your side with political identity tropes and scoff at the other side. Don't worry about actual accomplishments, just hype. Biden's a moderate dem, not a progressive, so she's out there playing at this lunacy on her own.

I disagree that racism is the reason for her lack of popularity. Lots of dems just got turned off with the progressive bs the last couple of years.
She is more moderate than you think. She was a prosecutor after all.


DP. Being a prosecutor is not evidence of one’s political positions. Some are conservative. Some are progressive. Some are moderate. Some are politically-minded careerists buiding a resume. Some are hacks. Some are not.


I recall during the election that she started touting her record as a prosecutor as being “tough on crime” (since, you know, the R’s entire platform was essentially “trump is the only man who can keep us safe” from the rampant crime coming from blue cities to invade the beautiful suburbs). Then it was turned around on her by radical left (or R’s being clever) as disproportionately incarcerating people of color.


yes, some on the political left were not happy with her record as California Attorney General or, as you say, a local prosecutor.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 09:59     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The main reason we are focusing on her is that Joe is old and there’s more than a slight chance she could be the next POTUS or candidate if he chooses not to run. It’s kind of unique and the stakes are very high.


Is there a way to change running mates while giving her (and the ticket) a soft landing?


No. But you will feel much better about Kamala Harris when you see who Donald Trump picks for his VP, I promise!


LOL. You think Trump will be nominated.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 08:19     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
Anonymous wrote:DP. I'm currently voting Democratic. I just don't see the Biden-Harris ticket as strong. Biden is doing his best to steer a calm, stable course with the administration. Harris I see as doing her best to support. But I have to agree that Biden is too old and Harris is too narrow in her politics.

My fear is as fractured as the Republican Party is, the crackpot, billionaire Tea Party, and foreign assistance they receive is very powerful.

My conclusion is that in order to win, the Democratic party needs a centrist younger white male candidate.


It’s going to be Biden-Harris and they will be re-elected.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 08:17     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The main reason we are focusing on her is that Joe is old and there’s more than a slight chance she could be the next POTUS or candidate if he chooses not to run. It’s kind of unique and the stakes are very high.


Is there a way to change running mates while giving her (and the ticket) a soft landing?


No. But you will feel much better about Kamala Harris when you see who Donald Trump picks for his VP, I promise!
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 07:56     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does a VP do?

Seriously.

There were like 50 white guys before Harris, but she gets the media harassment from questionable media sources.



Ah, playing the race card yet again, I see. *Every* VP gets media harassment from questionable sources, which you would know if you over the age of say, 12.


It's because, as much as I hate to admit it, yes - there is still very deep racism in the US and it will take several generations to put to rest.

If you want to win this year, you have to play the politics, but keep trying to fix it. As we've seen with the depth of racism in the Republican Party, and the minority but broad support they have, it's a reality the Democrats will need to face in order to keep the Presidency.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 07:51     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
DP. I'm currently voting Democratic. I just don't see the Biden-Harris ticket as strong. Biden is doing his best to steer a calm, stable course with the administration. Harris I see as doing her best to support. But I have to agree that Biden is too old and Harris is too narrow in her politics.

My fear is as fractured as the Republican Party is, the crackpot, billionaire Tea Party, and foreign assistance they receive is very powerful.

My conclusion is that in order to win, the Democratic party needs a centrist younger white male candidate.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 07:41     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
She's terrible at politics.

Remember how badly she lost during primaries? Why'd the democrats think she'd do better with Joe taking her on? Her career in the political arena needs to end, because even with massive amounts of coaching she still stinks.

She looked like a deer watching headlights when they tried to trot her out there to talk about global security risks, china, and North Korea. This might come as a rude awakening, but it takes a lot more than identity to run a country. You have to know geopolitics for starters. Kamala looked like she was only familiar with local crime and CA politics, is which alone can't cut it for running the entire country.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 06:34     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does a VP do?

Seriously.

There were like 50 white guys before Harris, but she gets the media harassment from questionable media sources.



Ah, playing the race card yet again, I see. *Every* VP gets media harassment from questionable sources, which you would know if you over the age of say, 12.

I don't recall Biden or Pence getting this kind of harassment.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2023 22:46     Subject: Kamala Harris and VP expectations
Anonymous wrote:What does a VP do?

Seriously.

There were like 50 white guys before Harris, but she gets the media harassment from questionable media sources.



Ah, playing the race card yet again, I see. *Every* VP gets media harassment from questionable sources, which you would know if you over the age of say, 12.