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Anonymous wrote:Excellent bill. People who think this bill is racist towards latinos have a good heart and good intentions, but as the saying goes “the way to hell is paved with good intentions.”

Immigrants who don’t learn to speak, write and read English have very limited chance of upward mobility in the U.S. They mostly end up limited to low paying, hard labor jobs such as lawn, nannying, cleaning, etc. And their children are impacted as well.

No one is saying an immigrant have to only speak English and forego their native language and customs- they can still speak their own language at home, teach it to their children, and such.

But English should be required.

+1. I’m a child of immigrants (and lifelong Democratic voter), and I see no problem with this bill. Many countries, including Western democracies, require a language test as part of the naturalization process. Immigrants shouldn’t have to sacrifice their own language and culture, but requiring English proficiency is good for everyone.

Which other Western countries are famous melting pots? I wish that immigrants who came here could have English proficiency, more for their own success here than for “efficiency,” but the fact is that lots of those other Western democracies that require language tests also provide language classes. Norway does, for example.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if you think this bill is a good idea…is anyone really saying right now that *this* should be the primary focus of the junior senator from Ohio? Really? Not aggressively, frenetically pushing for more federal regulations and relief money for East Palestine? Seems a weird priority.

I guess you didn’t hear about his Railway Safety Act.

I sure didn’t.
Would you please link it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/01/senators-unveil-rail-safety-bill-after-ohio-train-derailment.html

Ok. That’s a bipartisan bill helmed by Sherrod Brown, but I’m glad to see republicans on board.

Anonymous wrote:English is the de facto official language.

What’s wrong with making it official? Not seeing any issue here. This congressional vote should be unanimous.

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Anonymous wrote:Odd for someone who married a foreigner to be so concerned about this pr bill.

This is weird. I presume JD's critics are liberals, but they say racist stuff like this all the time.

His wife was born in the states.

The same happened in the Vivek thread...

Anonymous wrote:Odd for someone who married a foreigner to be so concerned about this pr bill.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3926341-jd-vance-bill-sets-english-as-official-language/amp/

What is the point of these frivolous bills?

The great tragedy is that many of the problems Trump identifies are real, and so many of the hurts he exploits demand serious thought and measured action—from governments, yes, but also from community leaders and individuals. Yet so long as people rely on that quick high, so long as wolves point their fingers at everyone but themselves, the nation delays a necessary reckoning. There is no self-reflection in the midst of a false euphoria. Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it.

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Anonymous wrote:The immigrants who come here not speaking English generally are undocumented, so they’re not taking the citizenship test. Next.

So you’re cool with the proposal to make English the official language. I glad we agree.

Of course I’m not.

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Anonymous wrote:The immigrants who come here not speaking English generally are undocumented, so they’re not taking the citizenship test. Next.

So you’re cool with the proposal to make English the official language. I glad we agree.

Anonymous wrote:The immigrants who come here not speaking English generally are undocumented, so they’re not taking the citizenship test. Next.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent bill. People who think this bill is racist towards latinos have a good heart and good intentions, but as the saying goes “the way to hell is paved with good intentions.”

Immigrants who don’t learn to speak, write and read English have very limited chance of upward mobility in the U.S. They mostly end up limited to low paying, hard labor jobs such as lawn, nannying, cleaning, etc. And their children are impacted as well.

No one is saying an immigrant have to only speak English and forego their native language and customs- they can still speak their own language at home, teach it to their children, and such.

But English should be required.

+1. I’m a child of immigrants (and lifelong Democratic voter), and I see no problem with this bill. Many countries, including Western democracies, require a language test as part of the naturalization process. Immigrants shouldn’t have to sacrifice their own language and culture, but requiring English proficiency is good for everyone.

Which other Western countries are famous melting pots? I wish that immigrants who came here could have English proficiency, more for their own success here than for “efficiency,” but the fact is that lots of those other Western democracies that require language tests also provide language classes. Norway does, for example.

Canada, Australia, the UK. Australia has 1/3rd of its population foreign born.

Lots of countries are melting pots - even take Ukraine as an example, it is the product of Varangians (scandinavian), Slavs, Tatars, Jews, Greeks, Armenians, Romanians, Hungarians and many others.

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Anonymous wrote:How many legal immigrants, ones who have a realistic opportunity to attain citizenship, come here without knowing English? I’d bet none.

Is JD planning to start a citizenship path for people without access to the education & job opportunities that currently necessary to get a skilled visa?

On what planet do you believe that US taxpayers and citizens need to be on the hook for educating illegal alien adults and putting together job fairs for them?
There are hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants waiting in line, doing the work to enter properly without Americans having to foot the bill.

Anonymous wrote:This again? Wasn’t that 1995’s version of trans people? Do we get to relive flag burning too?

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Anonymous wrote:How many legal immigrants, ones who have a realistic opportunity to attain citizenship, come here without knowing English? I’d bet none.

Is JD planning to start a citizenship path for people without access to the education & job opportunities that currently necessary to get a skilled visa?

On what planet do you believe that US taxpayers and citizens need to be on the hook for educating illegal alien adults and putting together job fairs for them?
There are hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants waiting in line, doing the work to enter properly without Americans having to foot the bill.

Anonymous wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3926341-jd-vance-bill-sets-english-as-official-language/amp/

What is the point of these frivolous bills?