Anonymous wrote:No, not really - I know that their school doesn’t define them. I do take into account major though. But a bigger detraction is that I probably wouldn’t hire someone who put their pronouns on their resume. And I’m not talked about gender neutral pronouns like they/them, I’m also talking about even if a women put she/her/hers or a man put he/him/his. I’m liberal, but I would assume that employee may be potentially difficult.

+1 - I am exactly the same way.

Columbia. Not refuse, but certainly no longer impressive in its own.

For the pronoun haters- both my spouse and I have names that misgender us 99% of the time. You have clearly grown up as a Jessica or Matthew and have kids named Emma and Jake.

DCUM thread arguing that bigotry is okay if it’s against Mormons and Christians.

It’s also apparently totally okay to discriminate against single moms and military personnel who go to online schools while working full time jobs and raising a family, because the school they went to runs commercials on daytime television. I wonder if the same people on these threads making obnoxious statements about online programs are on other threads screaming that there is no loss of productivity in telework.

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Anonymous wrote:Rutgers. I hate New Jersey. And any super religious school.

I hope this is a joke. Rutgers is a great university. And New Jersey is one of the most well-educated states with excellent public k-12 schools in the country. Hiring someone who went to Rutgers doesn’t mean you need to visit the state.

No. I hate everything about New Jersey. I’m not hiring anyone from there or who went to school there,

If you’re a business owner you’re a shallow idiot.

If you’re a hiring manager within a larger corporation or organization, you should be fired as your shallow idiocy is doing your employer a disservice.

Anonymous wrote:I want to say Liberty, and I silently seethe when I hear some parent is sending their kid there, BUT I've actually hired a couple of Liberty students as summer help and they were pretty darn awesome.

There’s summer help and then there’s hiring people who have skills

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Anonymous wrote:No. Even if it’s liberty or something because I know people who went to schools like that because it was all their parents would approve of or pay for.

That's very humane, PP, but isn't it your job to hire someone actually competent for the job?
These universities lack quality instruction, period.

If you want to be humane, donate your time and give generously to charities instead.

I come from a company that hires from anywhere. We assess competency in the interview processs which includes a fairly rigorous technical exercise. We have one Liberty grad at our company; he’s pretty normal, smart, and respectful. And he has no issues using the right pronouns for our nonbinary colleague (they graduated from MIT and have nothing but respect and professionalism for the liberty grad too). Y’all are exhausting.

Can you give us a brief synopsis of what the rigorous technical exercise entails?

The usual: timed coding problem, discussion of results, probing deep dive into technologies they claim to know on their resume. Works much better for figuring out whether they’ll be able to do the work than assumptions about wherever they went to school, especially if that was 10+ years ago. (Although I will say I don’t think we’ve ever had an MIT grad fail out technical exercise.)

I assess a job candidate by their resume, interview, work samples, and references. I don’t care where they went to school.

My husband immigrated to the US with his family when he was 20. To maintain his immigration status he needed to immediately enroll in school and the only thing he could find quickly that was affordable was Strayer. I’m certain there are jobs he didn’t get because that’s on his resume.

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Anonymous wrote:Rutgers. I hate New Jersey. And any super religious school.

I hope this is a joke. Rutgers is a great university. And New Jersey is one of the most well-educated states with excellent public k-12 schools in the country. Hiring someone who went to Rutgers doesn’t mean you need to visit the state.

No. I hate everything about New Jersey. I’m not hiring anyone from there or who went to school there,

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Anonymous wrote:No, not really - I know that their school doesn’t define them. I do take into account major though. But a bigger detraction is that I probably wouldn’t hire someone who put their pronouns on their resume. And I’m not talked about gender neutral pronouns like they/them, I’m also talking about even if a women put she/her/hers or a man put he/him/his. I’m liberal, but I would assume that employee may be potentially difficult.

Pronouns annoy me too, but I think there is a place for them if someone has an androgynous name. I appreciate knowing if Kelly, Cory, or even Drew is a he or she so that I can use the proper form of address (Ms.or Mr.) It is also helpful for names not derived from English language to know the pronouns of the person you are addressing.

I think PP means obvious names. I have seen an Elizabeth adding her expected pronouns and rolled my eyes

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Anonymous wrote:No. Even if it’s liberty or something because I know people who went to schools like that because it was all their parents would approve of or pay for.

That's very humane, PP, but isn't it your job to hire someone actually competent for the job?
These universities lack quality instruction, period.

If you want to be humane, donate your time and give generously to charities instead.

I come from a company that hires from anywhere. We assess competency in the interview processs which includes a fairly rigorous technical exercise. We have one Liberty grad at our company; he’s pretty normal, smart, and respectful. And he has no issues using the right pronouns for our nonbinary colleague (they graduated from MIT and have nothing but respect and professionalism for the liberty grad too). Y’all are exhausting.

Can you give us a brief synopsis of what the rigorous technical exercise entails?

If the position requires a clearance the people who do clearances love students from those religious schools
Because they are usually
Squeaky clean. The process is fast and easy.

Arizona State, BYU and Colorado are all great. You should only rule out the most egregious of colleges that didn't have the instruction to back up the degree.

I wondered if BYU would come up. I understand that people have a bias against us and honestly I don't blame them, but a lot of companies love BYU grads so nobody has a hard time getting hired.