Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 14:04     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,


From 3rd to 4th SY21-22 to 21-23 kids went from LAMB to:
LAMB (53)
Oyster (<10)
School Without Walls @SF (<10)
CMI (<10)

From 4th to 5th LAMB kids went to:
LAMB (49)
Latin (<10)
BASIS (<10)
CMI (<10)

After 5th at LAMB:
DCI (18)
Paul PCS (<10)
Sojourner (<10)


Sorry, typo in years (fixed above)


My DC was one of the 18 5th graders in SY 21-22 that went to DCI in SY 22-23. That was a very small class (not more than 22-24 total) but the great majority went on to DCI (only one went to Sojourner, for instance). But if I am reading this correctly, I can't actually tell how many of this particular class departed from year to year, right? I wish we could see that because comparing 4th to 5th departures is meaningless to use as a measure of the quality of LAMB. We do know that for the class behind, 4th-5th, <10 went each to Latin, Basis & CMI. As PP stated this is (almost) entirely families who don't want to move on to DCI, and this is the year you have to leave to get into Latin, Basis, etc. The departures from 3rd to 4th are a better indicator for measuring the quality of LAMB. I am not going to cheerlead for UE at LAMB because it has been hit or miss. But you can't combine the 16 4th & 5th grade departures as PP stated as a measure of LAMB quality. People leave at each of those grade transitions for different reasons.


I agree that the usefulness of the data is limited because we can't track the YoY departures as a class moves along. Hopefully the data will continue to be released. (And hopefully someone with better Tableau skills than me will be able to manipulate it so i don't have to play with Excel).
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 13:59     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,


From 3rd to 4th SY21-22 to 21-23 kids went from LAMB to:
LAMB (53)
Oyster (<10)
School Without Walls @SF (<10)
CMI (<10)

From 4th to 5th LAMB kids went to:
LAMB (49)
Latin (<10)
BASIS (<10)
CMI (<10)

After 5th at LAMB:
DCI (18)
Paul PCS (<10)
Sojourner (<10)


Sorry, typo in years (fixed above)


My DC was one of the 18 5th graders in SY 21-22 that went to DCI in SY 22-23. That was a very small class (not more than 22-24 total) but the great majority went on to DCI (only one went to Sojourner, for instance). But if I am reading this correctly, I can't actually tell how many of this particular class departed from year to year, right? I wish we could see that because comparing 4th to 5th departures is meaningless to use as a measure of the quality of LAMB. We do know that for the class behind, 4th-5th, <10 went each to Latin, Basis & CMI. As PP stated this is (almost) entirely families who don't want to move on to DCI, and this is the year you have to leave to get into Latin, Basis, etc. The departures from 3rd to 4th are a better indicator for measuring the quality of LAMB. I am not going to cheerlead for UE at LAMB because it has been hit or miss. But you can't combine the 16 4th & 5th grade departures as PP stated as a measure of LAMB quality. People leave at each of those grade transitions for different reasons.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 13:05     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,


From 3rd to 4th SY21-22 to 21-23 kids went from LAMB to:
LAMB (53)
Oyster (<10)
School Without Walls @SF (<10)
CMI (<10)

From 4th to 5th LAMB kids went to:
LAMB (49)
Latin (<10)
BASIS (<10)
CMI (<10)

After 5th at LAMB:
DCI (18)
Paul PCS (<10)
Sojourner (<10)


Sorry, typo in years (fixed above)
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 13:03     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,


From 3rd to 4th SY20-21 to 21-22 kids went from LAMB to:
LAMB (53)
Oyster (<10)
School Without Walls @SF (<10)
CMI (<10)

From 4th to 5th LAMB kids went to:
LAMB (49)
Latin (<10)
BASIS (<10)
CMI (<10)

After 5th at LAMB:
DCI (18)
Paul PCS (<10)
Sojourner (<10)
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 10:03     Subject: Re:LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a single digit number last year and didn't get off the waitlist until 2 weeks before school started.


When the historic waitlist data says "Total Waitlist Offers made by August" does that mean by the beginning of August or by the end of August? Maybe I've been misunderstanding the data there.


I don't think they say a precise date, but my understanding is it's the end.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 09:59     Subject: Re:LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:I had a single digit number last year and didn't get off the waitlist until 2 weeks before school started.


When the historic waitlist data says "Total Waitlist Offers made by August" does that mean by the beginning of August or by the end of August? Maybe I've been misunderstanding the data there.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 21:24     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,


Adios!
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 18:57     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

What is it that puts people off DCI? I can see the other feeder elementaries have pretty strong matriculation.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 18:25     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,


But where are they going? That's the real tell, right?


Real tell is that they’re looking to leave.


As a parent of one of the (few?) rising 4th graders not leaving, I have many complaints with how upper elementary (4th and 5th) is run. My complaints are the same ones I heard from upper elementary parents when my children were in PK3. What ever LAMB is not getting right in upper elementary is institutional and not the consequence of our recently departed ED and principal.

However, from talking with many of the families who are leaving, this year's exodus is less about LAMB and more about DCI, BASIS, and Washington Latin. If you're a family looking for an alternative to DCI/DCPS, the time to leave LAMB is after 4th grade.


Correction: As a parent of one of the (few?) rising 5th graders not leaving . . .
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 18:24     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,


But where are they going? That's the real tell, right?


Real tell is that they’re looking to leave.


As a parent of one of the (few?) rising 4th graders not leaving, I have many complaints with how upper elementary (4th and 5th) is run. My complaints are the same ones I heard from upper elementary parents when my children were in PK3. What ever LAMB is not getting right in upper elementary is institutional and not the consequence of our recently departed ED and principal.

However, from talking with many of the families who are leaving, this year's exodus is less about LAMB and more about DCI, BASIS, and Washington Latin. If you're a family looking for an alternative to DCI/DCPS, the time to leave LAMB is after 4th grade.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 18:08     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,

But where are they going? That's the real tell, right?


Real tell is that they’re looking to leave.


No the real tell would be going to a school that isn't well-regarded.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 18:04     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,


But where are they going? That's the real tell, right?


Real tell is that they’re looking to leave.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 16:37     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,


But where are they going? That's the real tell, right?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 16:33     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

Anonymous wrote:https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.


Yes this is absolutely accurate. But I’m talking about rising 4th and 5th graders. I know at least 16 kids who are leaving,
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 15:54     Subject: LAMB Waitlist

https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways

You can look at data on where students come from and where they go, if you scroll down to the second display. For last year, it shows that 49 4th graders stayed at LAMB for 5th, others went to BASIS, Latin, and CMI. After 5th, only 18 matriculated to DCI (!), others to Truth, Paul, and out of the DC public school system.