Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

it seems like if you do the math, this problem doesn't get you very far compared to the overall budget.

What does this mean? Please translate.

Like, what kind of budget savings does any of this generate? Probably very little, in which case this whole thread seems like a lot of complaints as if Syphax staff are at the beach all the time. If you really believe that, then maybe show some evidence.

NP. The evidence is that shit isn't getting done. Syphax people (not all, but many) aren't doing their jobs to support in-school staff and teachers.

Um, evidence? Name specific **** that is not getting done. Otherwise, again, you're just complaining w/o evidence.

DP. There’s a whole thread on HR. Maybe if they were around more they could process subs. Based on that article, APS costs arlington taxpayers $800 million a year and is closed for the equivalent of 6 weeks a year. Is the county closed for 6 weeks a year? Why is APS central office so special?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

it seems like if you do the math, this problem doesn't get you very far compared to the overall budget.

What does this mean? Please translate.

Like, what kind of budget savings does any of this generate? Probably very little, in which case this whole thread seems like a lot of complaints as if Syphax staff are at the beach all the time. If you really believe that, then maybe show some evidence.

NP. The evidence is that shit isn't getting done. Syphax people (not all, but many) aren't doing their jobs to support in-school staff and teachers.

Um, evidence? Name specific **** that is not getting done. Otherwise, again, you're just complaining w/o evidence.

Another way to ask may be how much would it cost to add these as paid holidays for teachers. It’s not just the cost of hiring the substitute. Bet it’s a crap ton of money. Axe the extra leave, bring back parental leave. Increase the cola for all staff with whatever is left after parental leave. The best bennies shouldn’t be going to the highest paid staff in aps while bus drivers and teachers bring grievances to the SB every week.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

it seems like if you do the math, this problem doesn't get you very far compared to the overall budget.

What does this mean? Please translate.

Like, what kind of budget savings does any of this generate? Probably very little, in which case this whole thread seems like a lot of complaints as if Syphax staff are at the beach all the time. If you really believe that, then maybe show some evidence.

DP. Just reading the arl now article posted on aem. They now get 31 paid holidays. Same article says the SB cut 10 days of parental leave to save money a few years ago. I have no idea what this is costing APS but I can tell you that leave policies are expensive. Apparently APS thought so too since it axed parental leave.
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/04/arlington-school-board-settles-on-proposed-budget-but-has-concerns-about-using-reserve-funds/?fbclid=IwAR2y7CLFA5OzaDIM5E09e4A59eZqHbSrtAWdIWkGDJh0yAaYq67AVQrcqLY&mibextid=q5o4bk

It always has a cost in dollars especially if they can cash in leave. (More paid holidays means you use less of your annual leave).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

it seems like if you do the math, this problem doesn't get you very far compared to the overall budget.

What does this mean? Please translate.

Like, what kind of budget savings does any of this generate? Probably very little, in which case this whole thread seems like a lot of complaints as if Syphax staff are at the beach all the time. If you really believe that, then maybe show some evidence.

DP. Just reading the arl now article posted on aem. They now get 31 paid holidays. Same article says the SB cut 10 days of parental leave to save money a few years ago. I have no idea what this is costing APS but I can tell you that leave policies are expensive. Apparently APS thought so too since it axed parental leave.
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/04/arlington-school-board-settles-on-proposed-budget-but-has-concerns-about-using-reserve-funds/?fbclid=IwAR2y7CLFA5OzaDIM5E09e4A59eZqHbSrtAWdIWkGDJh0yAaYq67AVQrcqLY&mibextid=q5o4bk

Does it have a cost in dollars? Their salary is the same they just work less, loss of productivity is one thing but doesn’t necessarily mess with the budget

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

it seems like if you do the math, this problem doesn't get you very far compared to the overall budget.

What does this mean? Please translate.

Like, what kind of budget savings does any of this generate? Probably very little, in which case this whole thread seems like a lot of complaints as if Syphax staff are at the beach all the time. If you really believe that, then maybe show some evidence.

NP. The evidence is that shit isn't getting done. Syphax people (not all, but many) aren't doing their jobs to support in-school staff and teachers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

it seems like if you do the math, this problem doesn't get you very far compared to the overall budget.

What does this mean? Please translate.

Like, what kind of budget savings does any of this generate? Probably very little, in which case this whole thread seems like a lot of complaints as if Syphax staff are at the beach all the time. If you really believe that, then maybe show some evidence.

DP. Just reading the arl now article posted on aem. They now get 31 paid holidays. Same article says the SB cut 10 days of parental leave to save money a few years ago. I have no idea what this is costing APS but I can tell you that leave policies are expensive. Apparently APS thought so too since it axed parental leave.
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/04/arlington-school-board-settles-on-proposed-budget-but-has-concerns-about-using-reserve-funds/?fbclid=IwAR2y7CLFA5OzaDIM5E09e4A59eZqHbSrtAWdIWkGDJh0yAaYq67AVQrcqLY&mibextid=q5o4bk

Anonymous wrote:

it seems like if you do the math, this problem doesn't get you very far compared to the overall budget.

What does this mean? Please translate.

Like, what kind of budget savings does any of this generate? Probably very little, in which case this whole thread seems like a lot of complaints as if Syphax staff are at the beach all the time. If you really believe that, then maybe show some evidence.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yep, teacher contracts are for 200 days. Teacher work days are 194. 6 days covers the extra stuff.

The "extra stuff"? Where do those days fall on the contract? And is your calculation taking into account the 24 hours of PD (3 full days' worth) that teachers are supposed to do on their own time and document by the end of the school year?

Yes it does. There were 175 days of school this year and with all the other trainings, PD, grade prep days, etc end up at 194. The other 6 days are buffer to recognize that teachers of course work beyond school day hours. Next year academic year increase by an entire week because of the newly added religious holidays and desire to return to the normal 180 school day std. teachers are not paid for these new religious holidays and on top of that we lose a week of summer break when we could be earning money from a summer job.

It's ridiculous that Syphax is paid for all of winter break, spring break and ALL of the new religious holidays. I support adding those as days off school, but there is no industry that PAYS people for ALL major religious holidays. And Christmas is only paid for more white collar workers because it's a federal holiday.

Also what happens if we need some 12-month employees to work at certain times that they are technically off? Does APS now have to pay for them to work those days they are paying for them to have off? Do they get credited leave they can use at another time? I got an email that the APS aquatics office is closed this week even though APS pools remain open. That's how dumb this policy is.

Anonymous wrote:

Yep, teacher contracts are for 200 days. Teacher work days are 194. 6 days covers the extra stuff.

The "extra stuff"? Where do those days fall on the contract? And is your calculation taking into account the 24 hours of PD (3 full days' worth) that teachers are supposed to do on their own time and document by the end of the school year?

Yes it does. There were 175 days of school this year and with all the other trainings, PD, grade prep days, etc end up at 194. The other 6 days are buffer to recognize that teachers of course work beyond school day hours. Next year academic year increase by an entire week because of the newly added religious holidays and desire to return to the normal 180 school day std. teachers are not paid for these new religious holidays and on top of that we lose a week of summer break when we could be earning money from a summer job.

it seems like if you do the math, this problem doesn't get you very far compared to the overall budget.

What does this mean? Please translate.

Yep, teacher contracts are for 200 days. Teacher work days are 194. 6 days covers the extra stuff.

The "extra stuff"? Where do those days fall on the contract? And is your calculation taking into account the 24 hours of PD (3 full days' worth) that teachers are supposed to do on their own time and document by the end of the school year?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read these two statements, from the same post.

“Syphax staff are not permitted to telework. That's a fact.”

“Of course, some do when sick or traveling or other extenuating circumstances.”

Read it again. What do you notice? What do you wonder? What conclusions can we draw?

LOL and feeling sad at the same time.
There are so many “extenuating” circumstances that happen near the beach, on a long weekend. Meanwhile schools are scrambling to find subs. And we cannot flex our start time, either. The kids can’t wait unsupervised while we get a second cup of coffee. The flexibility Syphax staff have is sweet. The people who work there would never go back to work in a school.

This. All of the above.

Anonymous wrote:Read these two statements, from the same post.

“Syphax staff are not permitted to telework. That's a fact.”

“Of course, some do when sick or traveling or other extenuating circumstances.”

Read it again. What do you notice? What do you wonder? What conclusions can we draw?

LOL and feeling sad at the same time.
There are so many “extenuating” circumstances that happen near the beach, on a long weekend. Meanwhile schools are scrambling to find subs. And we cannot flex our start time, either. The kids can’t wait unsupervised while we get a second cup of coffee. The flexibility Syphax staff have is sweet. The people who work there would never go back to work in a school.

Read these two statements, from the same post.

“Syphax staff are not permitted to telework. That's a fact.”

“Of course, some do when sick or traveling or other extenuating circumstances.”

Read it again. What do you notice? What do you wonder? What conclusions can we draw?