Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

So a teacher should be on patrol 24/7 to keep kids from having a 2 am rendezvous? Seriously?

Um YES. I remember going on an 8th grade field trip and teachers took turns monitoring hallway and taped all of our doors so they would know if we had left.

What does leaving a room have to do with anything? Is that what happened? Two kids left the tent in the middle of the night?

Anonymous wrote:Kids also love candy and pizza and no homework. Doro mean they always have to get what they want. The OL experience is worthwhile but the extra pressure on staff to supervise and be held accountable for whatever happens is not.

Ha kids at oakridge don't have homework, but anyway, obviously I'm not saying kids should do whatever they want. The joy has absolutely been sucked out of school thanks to the pandemic and the disastrous transition back to school. Now we are going to take away a joyful *and* educational activity from them because of one incident in what, two decades of the outdoor lab? If we always scrapped activities based on one bad thing happening we would have no activities left.

Kids also love candy and pizza and no homework. Doro mean they always have to get what they want. The OL experience is worthwhile but the extra pressure on staff to supervise and be held accountable for whatever happens is not.

Kids *love* the overnight. Cancelling the overnight part because of whatever happened last week would be a big overreaction. Worse things happen on other programs and they don't cancel the whole thing.

The overnight stay is unnecessary.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

So a teacher should be on patrol 24/7 to keep kids from having a 2 am rendezvous? Seriously?

Um YES. I remember going on an 8th grade field trip and teachers took turns monitoring hallway and taped all of our doors so they would know if we had left.

1. That isn’t an option with tents.
2. Teachers are already volunteering their time to stay overnight. They’re going to need to be paid if you expect them to stay up all night.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

So a teacher should be on patrol 24/7 to keep kids from having a 2 am rendezvous? Seriously?

Um YES. I remember going on an 8th grade field trip and teachers took turns monitoring hallway and taped all of our doors so they would know if we had left.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

So a teacher should be on patrol 24/7 to keep kids from having a 2 am rendezvous? Seriously?

If APS wants to take a bunch of 10 year olds on an overnight trip, yes, someone should be monitoring the kids at all times.

I agree with PP. There’s no reason to make it an overnight.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

I'm no fan of Oakridge but we don't know what happened and it might not have been preventable. You can't have people up at all hours patrolling kids to make sure they have their hands to themselves. Kids have been doing this overnight to the outdoor lab for years and years and unless sometime drastically different happened this time, I don't know that you can fault anyone.

APS should get rid of the overnights and the whole outdoor lab and spend the money on teacher salaries and lower class sizes.

Disagree wholeheartedly. Outdoor Lab is one of the best experiences of all the field trips K-12. Well worth the money, which wouldn't do a thing for reducing class sizes or increasing salaries.

There is absolutely no reason it needs to be an overnight trip. Make it a full day field trip. Make it two day trips in a row if you want. But there is absolutely no reason to have a bunch of 5th graders camping out unsupervised (sometimes in freezing cold weather). It’s absurd and something like this happening was inevitable.

We don’t even know what happened.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

I'm no fan of Oakridge but we don't know what happened and it might not have been preventable. You can't have people up at all hours patrolling kids to make sure they have their hands to themselves. Kids have been doing this overnight to the outdoor lab for years and years and unless sometime drastically different happened this time, I don't know that you can fault anyone.

APS should get rid of the overnights and the whole outdoor lab and spend the money on teacher salaries and lower class sizes.

Disagree wholeheartedly. Outdoor Lab is one of the best experiences of all the field trips K-12. Well worth the money, which wouldn't do a thing for reducing class sizes or increasing salaries.

There is absolutely no reason it needs to be an overnight trip. Make it a full day field trip. Make it two day trips in a row if you want. But there is absolutely no reason to have a bunch of 5th graders camping out unsupervised (sometimes in freezing cold weather). It’s absurd and something like this happening was inevitable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

I'm no fan of Oakridge but we don't know what happened and it might not have been preventable. You can't have people up at all hours patrolling kids to make sure they have their hands to themselves. Kids have been doing this overnight to the outdoor lab for years and years and unless sometime drastically different happened this time, I don't know that you can fault anyone.

APS should get rid of the overnights and the whole outdoor lab and spend the money on teacher salaries and lower class sizes.

Disagree wholeheartedly. Outdoor Lab is one of the best experiences of all the field trips K-12. Well worth the money, which wouldn't do a thing for reducing class sizes or increasing salaries.

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

I'm no fan of Oakridge but we don't know what happened and it might not have been preventable. You can't have people up at all hours patrolling kids to make sure they have their hands to themselves. Kids have been doing this overnight to the outdoor lab for years and years and unless sometime drastically different happened this time, I don't know that you can fault anyone.

APS should get rid of the overnights and the whole outdoor lab and spend the money on teacher salaries and lower class sizes.

Disagree wholeheartedly. Outdoor Lab is one of the best experiences of all the field trips K-12. Well worth the money, which wouldn't do a thing for reducing class sizes or increasing salaries.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

So a teacher should be on patrol 24/7 to keep kids from having a 2 am rendezvous? Seriously?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

I'm no fan of Oakridge but we don't know what happened and it might not have been preventable. You can't have people up at all hours patrolling kids to make sure they have their hands to themselves. Kids have been doing this overnight to the outdoor lab for years and years and unless sometime drastically different happened this time, I don't know that you can fault anyone.

APS should get rid of the overnights and the whole outdoor lab and spend the money on teacher salaries and lower class sizes.

How much is allocated to the outdoor lab each year?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord! Who was supervising these kids?

Seriously. Someone should be fired immediately.

I'm no fan of Oakridge but we don't know what happened and it might not have been preventable. You can't have people up at all hours patrolling kids to make sure they have their hands to themselves. Kids have been doing this overnight to the outdoor lab for years and years and unless sometime drastically different happened this time, I don't know that you can fault anyone.

APS should get rid of the overnights and the whole outdoor lab and spend the money on teacher salaries and lower class sizes.