Anonymous
03/27/2023 02:40
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s more phonetic; we don’t say the O in Jackson/Allison/Emerson but it sounds more like a short I sound like in pin or kin.
So Alysyn, Jacksyn it comes to be but is also thought to be kreeightyve and youneek.
What?
My sister's name is Allison and my son's name is Jackson. We do not pronounce either name with a short i ("in/yn") sound at the end.
We pronounce Allison more like "Alla-sun" and Jackson is pronounced exactly as it appears-- "Jack-son."
We travel a lot, and the only place I've ever heard Allison or Jackson pronounced with short-i sound ("in/yn") has been in Texas and Georgia. No one else anywhere in the US, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, or New Zealand (places we travel often) has ever pronounced these names with an "in/yn" sound. Not once in the DC area have I heard these names pronounced with a short-i sound.
You obviously don’t pay attention. You probably also don’t hear people saying Laura as Lau-ra vs Lore-a.
I pay pretty close attention seeing that both Allison and Jackson live in my home and I am responsible for their care (Allison is an adult with a developmental disability, so she lives with me). I interact with a rather large number of people who use Allison and Jackson's names, and everyone in this area pronounces them correctly, with a "sun/son" sound.
Phonetically, it does not make sense to pronounce the names with a short-i sound, just as it does not make sense to pronounce "can" and "kin," nor "pen" and "pin" identically. They have different vowels.
If you want your child's name pronounced with a short-i sound, use the spelling Jacksyn or Jacksin. Jackson and Jacksyn aren't pronounced the same way.
And yet, plenty of midwesterners do pronounce ‘can’ as ‘kin’ or ‘ken.’ English is alive, baby! Spellings change. Your spelling now was someone else’s kreative spelling. There are words spelled differently now than when I was a child in the 70s. I don’t see any reason to disparage people who opt to spell Madison with -syn — whether they are being kreative or phonetic.
This Midwesterner says don't pin this on us. Or do you mean Iowa?
Michigan, for example.
Sorry, haven't heard it. Western part of the state or rural?
Detroit metro area … all the dang time. Also discussed in college linguistics class.
Anonymous
03/27/2023 00:05
Subject: Re:What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
I lived in NE DC for a long time and did not meet a baby without a weird a** name and/or weird a** spelling. Never seen it anywhere else. It’s an inner city thing.
Anonymous
03/26/2023 22:55
Subject: Re:What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
My question is, how did we make it to page 5 of this thread without a single She-Hulk reference?
Anonymous
03/26/2023 22:10
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s more phonetic; we don’t say the O in Jackson/Allison/Emerson but it sounds more like a short I sound like in pin or kin.
So Alysyn, Jacksyn it comes to be but is also thought to be kreeightyve and youneek.
What?
My sister's name is Allison and my son's name is Jackson. We do not pronounce either name with a short i ("in/yn") sound at the end.
We pronounce Allison more like "Alla-sun" and Jackson is pronounced exactly as it appears-- "Jack-son."
We travel a lot, and the only place I've ever heard Allison or Jackson pronounced with short-i sound ("in/yn") has been in Texas and Georgia. No one else anywhere in the US, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, or New Zealand (places we travel often) has ever pronounced these names with an "in/yn" sound. Not once in the DC area have I heard these names pronounced with a short-i sound.
You obviously don’t pay attention. You probably also don’t hear people saying Laura as Lau-ra vs Lore-a.
I pay pretty close attention seeing that both Allison and Jackson live in my home and I am responsible for their care (Allison is an adult with a developmental disability, so she lives with me). I interact with a rather large number of people who use Allison and Jackson's names, and everyone in this area pronounces them correctly, with a "sun/son" sound.
Phonetically, it does not make sense to pronounce the names with a short-i sound, just as it does not make sense to pronounce "can" and "kin," nor "pen" and "pin" identically. They have different vowels.
If you want your child's name pronounced with a short-i sound, use the spelling Jacksyn or Jacksin. Jackson and Jacksyn aren't pronounced the same way.
And yet, plenty of midwesterners do pronounce ‘can’ as ‘kin’ or ‘ken.’ English is alive, baby! Spellings change. Your spelling now was someone else’s kreative spelling. There are words spelled differently now than when I was a child in the 70s. I don’t see any reason to disparage people who opt to spell Madison with -syn — whether they are being kreative or phonetic.
This Midwesterner says don't pin this on us. Or do you mean Iowa?
Michigan, for example.
Sorry, haven't heard it. Western part of the state or rural?
Anonymous
03/26/2023 18:58
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s more phonetic; we don’t say the O in Jackson/Allison/Emerson but it sounds more like a short I sound like in pin or kin.
So Alysyn, Jacksyn it comes to be but is also thought to be kreeightyve and youneek.
What?
My sister's name is Allison and my son's name is Jackson. We do not pronounce either name with a short i ("in/yn") sound at the end.
We pronounce Allison more like "Alla-sun" and Jackson is pronounced exactly as it appears-- "Jack-son."
We travel a lot, and the only place I've ever heard Allison or Jackson pronounced with short-i sound ("in/yn") has been in Texas and Georgia. No one else anywhere in the US, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, or New Zealand (places we travel often) has ever pronounced these names with an "in/yn" sound. Not once in the DC area have I heard these names pronounced with a short-i sound.
You obviously don’t pay attention. You probably also don’t hear people saying Laura as Lau-ra vs Lore-a.
I pay pretty close attention seeing that both Allison and Jackson live in my home and I am responsible for their care (Allison is an adult with a developmental disability, so she lives with me). I interact with a rather large number of people who use Allison and Jackson's names, and everyone in this area pronounces them correctly, with a "sun/son" sound.
Phonetically, it does not make sense to pronounce the names with a short-i sound, just as it does not make sense to pronounce "can" and "kin," nor "pen" and "pin" identically. They have different vowels.
If you want your child's name pronounced with a short-i sound, use the spelling Jacksyn or Jacksin. Jackson and Jacksyn aren't pronounced the same way.
And yet, plenty of midwesterners do pronounce ‘can’ as ‘kin’ or ‘ken.’ English is alive, baby! Spellings change. Your spelling now was someone else’s kreative spelling. There are words spelled differently now than when I was a child in the 70s. I don’t see any reason to disparage people who opt to spell Madison with -syn — whether they are being kreative or phonetic.
This Midwesterner says don't pin this on us. Or do you mean Iowa?
Michigan, for example.
Anonymous
03/26/2023 15:26
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s more phonetic; we don’t say the O in Jackson/Allison/Emerson but it sounds more like a short I sound like in pin or kin.
So Alysyn, Jacksyn it comes to be but is also thought to be kreeightyve and youneek.
What?
My sister's name is Allison and my son's name is Jackson. We do not pronounce either name with a short i ("in/yn") sound at the end.
We pronounce Allison more like "Alla-sun" and Jackson is pronounced exactly as it appears-- "Jack-son."
We travel a lot, and the only place I've ever heard Allison or Jackson pronounced with short-i sound ("in/yn") has been in Texas and Georgia. No one else anywhere in the US, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, or New Zealand (places we travel often) has ever pronounced these names with an "in/yn" sound. Not once in the DC area have I heard these names pronounced with a short-i sound.
You obviously don’t pay attention. You probably also don’t hear people saying Laura as Lau-ra vs Lore-a.
I pay pretty close attention seeing that both Allison and Jackson live in my home and I am responsible for their care (Allison is an adult with a developmental disability, so she lives with me). I interact with a rather large number of people who use Allison and Jackson's names, and everyone in this area pronounces them correctly, with a "sun/son" sound.
Phonetically, it does not make sense to pronounce the names with a short-i sound, just as it does not make sense to pronounce "can" and "kin," nor "pen" and "pin" identically. They have different vowels.
If you want your child's name pronounced with a short-i sound, use the spelling Jacksyn or Jacksin. Jackson and Jacksyn aren't pronounced the same way.
And yet, plenty of midwesterners do pronounce ‘can’ as ‘kin’ or ‘ken.’ English is alive, baby! Spellings change. Your spelling now was someone else’s kreative spelling. There are words spelled differently now than when I was a child in the 70s. I don’t see any reason to disparage people who opt to spell Madison with -syn — whether they are being kreative or phonetic.
This Midwesterner says don't pin this on us. Or do you mean Iowa?
Anonymous
03/26/2023 10:28
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s more phonetic; we don’t say the O in Jackson/Allison/Emerson but it sounds more like a short I sound like in pin or kin.
So Alysyn, Jacksyn it comes to be but is also thought to be kreeightyve and youneek.
What?
My sister's name is Allison and my son's name is Jackson. We do not pronounce either name with a short i ("in/yn") sound at the end.
We pronounce Allison more like "Alla-sun" and Jackson is pronounced exactly as it appears-- "Jack-son."
We travel a lot, and the only place I've ever heard Allison or Jackson pronounced with short-i sound ("in/yn") has been in Texas and Georgia. No one else anywhere in the US, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, or New Zealand (places we travel often) has ever pronounced these names with an "in/yn" sound. Not once in the DC area have I heard these names pronounced with a short-i sound.
You obviously don’t pay attention. You probably also don’t hear people saying Laura as Lau-ra vs Lore-a.
I pay pretty close attention seeing that both Allison and Jackson live in my home and I am responsible for their care (Allison is an adult with a developmental disability, so she lives with me). I interact with a rather large number of people who use Allison and Jackson's names, and everyone in this area pronounces them correctly, with a "sun/son" sound.
Phonetically, it does not make sense to pronounce the names with a short-i sound, just as it does not make sense to pronounce "can" and "kin," nor "pen" and "pin" identically. They have different vowels.
If you want your child's name pronounced with a short-i sound, use the spelling Jacksyn or Jacksin. Jackson and Jacksyn aren't pronounced the same way.
And yet, plenty of midwesterners do pronounce ‘can’ as ‘kin’ or ‘ken.’ English is alive, baby! Spellings change. Your spelling now was someone else’s kreative spelling. There are words spelled differently now than when I was a child in the 70s. I don’t see any reason to disparage people who opt to spell Madison with -syn — whether they are being kreative or phonetic.
Anonymous
03/26/2023 10:21
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Stop with the kreeatyve spellyngz and eighnventined names.
Noone kin spale M’Kinleighe or Myrakelle or Rashelle or Nymisis
Oooh! I like those spellings. I may use them. THANK YOU!
Anonymous
03/26/2023 09:53
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Stop with the kreeatyve spellyngz and eighnventined names.
Noone kin spale M’Kinleighe or Myrakelle or Rashelle or Nymisis
Noone kin spale M’Kinleighe or Myrakelle or Rashelle or Nymisis
Anonymous
03/26/2023 08:29
Subject: Re:What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Admittedly, I don’t like the trend. My biggest issue for DC would be having to constantly correct assumed spelling of their name all the time. I have dealt with a few individuals who have variant name spellings (self or child) who get upset when their names of spelled incorrectly.
Anonymous
03/26/2023 07:01
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s more phonetic; we don’t say the O in Jackson/Allison/Emerson but it sounds more like a short I sound like in pin or kin.
So Alysyn, Jacksyn it comes to be but is also thought to be kreeightyve and youneek.
What?
My sister's name is Allison and my son's name is Jackson. We do not pronounce either name with a short i ("in/yn") sound at the end.
We pronounce Allison more like "Alla-sun" and Jackson is pronounced exactly as it appears-- "Jack-son."
We travel a lot, and the only place I've ever heard Allison or Jackson pronounced with short-i sound ("in/yn") has been in Texas and Georgia. No one else anywhere in the US, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, or New Zealand (places we travel often) has ever pronounced these names with an "in/yn" sound. Not once in the DC area have I heard these names pronounced with a short-i sound.
You obviously don’t pay attention. You probably also don’t hear people saying Laura as Lau-ra vs Lore-a.
I pay pretty close attention seeing that both Allison and Jackson live in my home and I am responsible for their care (Allison is an adult with a developmental disability, so she lives with me). I interact with a rather large number of people who use Allison and Jackson's names, and everyone in this area pronounces them correctly, with a "sun/son" sound.
Phonetically, it does not make sense to pronounce the names with a short-i sound, just as it does not make sense to pronounce "can" and "kin," nor "pen" and "pin" identically. They have different vowels.
If you want your child's name pronounced with a short-i sound, use the spelling Jacksyn or Jacksin. Jackson and Jacksyn aren't pronounced the same way.
The sound precedes spelling. It’s like the great vowel shift that happened when Europeans came to North America. What was -sun yesterday, is often -sen/sin today.
Not exactly. The vowel shift is not what we are discussing here.
People can also decide how they want their name pronounced. Just because someone thinks Allison should be pronounced 'Alli-sen' or 'Alli-sin' doesn't mean they are correct if the person whose name it is says, "My name is pronounced 'Alli-sun'."
Caroline can be pronounced 'Care-oh-line' or 'Care-oh-leen'.
Alicia can be pronounced 'Uh-lee-cee-uh,' 'Uh-lee-shuh,' 'Uh-lih-sha,' or a few other ways.
No one else should argue with the pronunciation of some else's name.
Anonymous
03/26/2023 06:01
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s more phonetic; we don’t say the O in Jackson/Allison/Emerson but it sounds more like a short I sound like in pin or kin.
So Alysyn, Jacksyn it comes to be but is also thought to be kreeightyve and youneek.
What?
My sister's name is Allison and my son's name is Jackson. We do not pronounce either name with a short i ("in/yn") sound at the end.
We pronounce Allison more like "Alla-sun" and Jackson is pronounced exactly as it appears-- "Jack-son."
We travel a lot, and the only place I've ever heard Allison or Jackson pronounced with short-i sound ("in/yn") has been in Texas and Georgia. No one else anywhere in the US, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, or New Zealand (places we travel often) has ever pronounced these names with an "in/yn" sound. Not once in the DC area have I heard these names pronounced with a short-i sound.
You obviously don’t pay attention. You probably also don’t hear people saying Laura as Lau-ra vs Lore-a.
I pay pretty close attention seeing that both Allison and Jackson live in my home and I am responsible for their care (Allison is an adult with a developmental disability, so she lives with me). I interact with a rather large number of people who use Allison and Jackson's names, and everyone in this area pronounces them correctly, with a "sun/son" sound.
Phonetically, it does not make sense to pronounce the names with a short-i sound, just as it does not make sense to pronounce "can" and "kin," nor "pen" and "pin" identically. They have different vowels.
If you want your child's name pronounced with a short-i sound, use the spelling Jacksyn or Jacksin. Jackson and Jacksyn aren't pronounced the same way.
The sound precedes spelling. It’s like the great vowel shift that happened when Europeans came to North America. What was -sun yesterday, is often -sen/sin today.
This -sun hasn't set yet in the area I live in.
Anonymous
03/26/2023 03:34
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Also, if you really want to be anal, Allison is really a boy’s name like Carol and Leslie. It means son of Alis or Ellis. But you’re ok with that evolution but not the spelling. Fascinating.
OR
It is a variant of Alice and means noble
https://nameberry.com/babyname/allison
Anonymous
03/26/2023 03:14
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Also, if you really want to be anal, Allison is really a boy’s name like Carol and Leslie. It means son of Alis or Ellis. But you’re ok with that evolution but not the spelling. Fascinating.
Anonymous
03/26/2023 03:08
Subject: What’s with the “y” instead of “o” in names?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s more phonetic; we don’t say the O in Jackson/Allison/Emerson but it sounds more like a short I sound like in pin or kin.
So Alysyn, Jacksyn it comes to be but is also thought to be kreeightyve and youneek.
What?
My sister's name is Allison and my son's name is Jackson. We do not pronounce either name with a short i ("in/yn") sound at the end.
We pronounce Allison more like "Alla-sun" and Jackson is pronounced exactly as it appears-- "Jack-son."
We travel a lot, and the only place I've ever heard Allison or Jackson pronounced with short-i sound ("in/yn") has been in Texas and Georgia. No one else anywhere in the US, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, or New Zealand (places we travel often) has ever pronounced these names with an "in/yn" sound. Not once in the DC area have I heard these names pronounced with a short-i sound.
You obviously don’t pay attention. You probably also don’t hear people saying Laura as Lau-ra vs Lore-a.
I pay pretty close attention seeing that both Allison and Jackson live in my home and I am responsible for their care (Allison is an adult with a developmental disability, so she lives with me). I interact with a rather large number of people who use Allison and Jackson's names, and everyone in this area pronounces them correctly, with a "sun/son" sound.
Phonetically, it does not make sense to pronounce the names with a short-i sound, just as it does not make sense to pronounce "can" and "kin," nor "pen" and "pin" identically. They have different vowels.
If you want your child's name pronounced with a short-i sound, use the spelling Jacksyn or Jacksin. Jackson and Jacksyn aren't pronounced the same way.
The sound precedes spelling. It’s like the great vowel shift that happened when Europeans came to North America. What was -sun yesterday, is often -sen/sin today.