Anonymous
03/23/2023 15:28
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
NE has to yield protect because they draw a good amount of students who just check the box on the common app due to no supplemental essay and fee waivers. They need the large denominator to keep the acceptance rate low (and than only count direct Boston admits in the numerator, but that's a different story).
Anonymous
03/23/2023 15:26
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mind boggling it’s only ranked #44 by USN given the level of selectivity and superlative quality of the admits. Is a gem that punches well above its weight, legitimately competing with the lower half of T25 (WashU, Cornell, Emory..)
let the haters hate but tippy top kids are applying (and often rejected) in droves..
Do they even admit any tippy top kids? They seems to prefer the next tier down..
Northeastern likes high stat kids.
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-smartest-colleges-in-america-2016-10
This was when test scores were mendatory.
Top 20 for national universities
First of all, this list is from 2016. Wasn't that around the time NE was engaging in questionable tactics to rank higher in USNWR? And where are you getting top 20? These are the top 20. NE is 25, so not sure why you need to twist the truth here. Amazing how these boosters try to spin stuff to make their school look like something it absolutely is not.
1. Caltech (1544)
2. MIT (1507)
3. Olin College of Eng. (1506)
3. Chicago (1506)
5. Yale (1498)
5. Vanderbilt (1498)
7. Harvard (1497)
8. Princeton (1490)
9. Harvey Mudd (1484)
10, Rice (1482)
11. Stanford (1479)
12. Columbia (1473)
13. WashU (1469)
14. Northwestern (1460)
15. Penn (1457)
15. Brown (1457)
17. Notre Dame (1455)
18. Hopkins (1453)
19. Amherst (1451)
20. Duke (1450)
NE use to buy national merit finalists with full,scholarships. They don’t do that anymore and instead just take lots of kids test optional.
TO rate for most of the 'elite' schools is 50-60%.
Northeastern is about average.
This is false. Nearly every top 20 is 30 percent or less TO, exceptions are Columbia and Candy which are closer to 40. 60 percent TO is an outlier, at least for schools that weren't TO prior to covid.
Anonymous
03/23/2023 15:24
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mind boggling it’s only ranked #44 by USN given the level of selectivity and superlative quality of the admits. Is a gem that punches well above its weight, legitimately competing with the lower half of T25 (WashU, Cornell, Emory..)
let the haters hate but tippy top kids are applying (and often rejected) in droves..
Do they even admit any tippy top kids? They seems to prefer the next tier down..
Northeastern likes high stat kids.
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-smartest-colleges-in-america-2016-10
This was when test scores were mendatory.
Top 20 for national universities
False, nearly all T20 are 30 percent or less TO.
First of all, this list is from 2016. Wasn't that around the time NE was engaging in questionable tactics to rank higher in USNWR? And where are you getting top 20? These are the top 20. NE is 25, so not sure why you need to twist the truth here. Amazing how these boosters try to spin stuff to make their school look like something it absolutely is not.
1. Caltech (1544)
2. MIT (1507)
3. Olin College of Eng. (1506)
3. Chicago (1506)
5. Yale (1498)
5. Vanderbilt (1498)
7. Harvard (1497)
8. Princeton (1490)
9. Harvey Mudd (1484)
10, Rice (1482)
11. Stanford (1479)
12. Columbia (1473)
13. WashU (1469)
14. Northwestern (1460)
15. Penn (1457)
15. Brown (1457)
17. Notre Dame (1455)
18. Hopkins (1453)
19. Amherst (1451)
20. Duke (1450)
NE use to buy national merit finalists with full,scholarships. They don’t do that anymore and instead just take lots of kids test optional.
TO rate for most of the 'elite' schools is 50-60%.
Northeastern is about average.
Anonymous
03/23/2023 14:45
Subject: Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will bite. My student had no interest in applying so no acceptance or rejection here.
It is not getting the strivers hellbent on Harvard.
I researched it ahead of my DD looking at schools, one of my DD’s best friends in in EA (probably won’t go b/c not enough merit) so my DD is probably in range.
The coop program is either a huge sell or a huge turnoff. All kids hear about is the need to get internships, this is a huge part of the program. It has some really interesting majors and I have heard good things about the tour from friends.
I am from the west coast and have only been out here 28 years so probably not as indoctrinated into the NEU is a commuter school mindset.
Boston is a great town.
Kids have different priorities and that is the problem with the rankings in the first place.
I am firmly in the camp of NEU is not elite, but I am also firmly in the camp of it sounds like a great school for a lot of students.
What kind of morons associate a T50 school with insane acceptance rate to a commuter school.
First - PP said they were NOT in the camp that considered Northeastern as a commuter school.
Second - Northeastern was VERY MUCH a commuter school up into the 90's (when many current parents were in school in Boston) so it's not some far fetched insult. Northeastern has changed a lot over time.
I'm not a Northeastern hater and think it's a great option for the right kid. The same could be said for other schools are - across the range of selectivity spectrum and the prestige spectrum. But I also lived in Boston at a time when Northeaster was more of a commuter population and it's amazing what they have done for their academic programs over time. The former- commuter doesn't have to be an insult, it's just fact.
That said - I am not a huge fan of their admissions practices or doling kids across campuses across the US and world. (I don't know, maybe that's great for some people too? But my kids wouldn't want that sort of setup)
UPenn used to have 70% acceptance rate, and it invented ED.
So what, totally irrelevant.
Anonymous
03/23/2023 14:36
Subject: Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:I know of someone whose kid got into MIT but got deferred then rejected from Northeastern.
That was my DC was afraid of, so did not apply to Northeastern. Got in MIT but will always wonder what could have been...
Anonymous
03/23/2023 14:22
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Roughly 40% submit scores (which doesn’t seem unusually low for peer schools to me but maybe it is?) my high stats son applied ED (and was accepted) because he wanted to go there and is very happy with it. He wouldn’t have considered it a safety if he applied rd.
Anonymous
03/23/2023 14:15
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The stats of some of the non-admitted kids here are incredible. My kid (currently a freshman in Boston), was admitted EA last year into the Honors Program with an amazing merit scholarship. He had a 3.98 GPA/4.53 wGPA with an IB Diploma and 5 AP's with a 35 ACT, and very solid EC's with excellent leadership skills (Eagle Scout, 2-year captain of varsity and club hockey teams). He was rejected by UVa (in-state), Williams (legacy), Amherst, Yale, MIT, and Duke, and was admitted to NU, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, and JMU. Seems like he might have had a tougher time with NU this year. He is having an excellent experience so far.
My guess is that if you are high stats and want Northeaster to be an option in your final mix of RD decisions, you really need to apply EA. Otherwise, Northeastern will think you probably won't come and be a yield protection casualty. Whey would they think you want to come with high stats if you didn't make the effort in EA?
Incorrect
Anonymous
03/23/2023 14:15
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all seriousness. Is Northeastern anyone’s real first choice..?
People also complain NEU admits so many from ED
So yes? Duh
WHY is it first choice though? What does it offer that BC Georgetown Carnegie Mellon or even U Florida do not offer?
In Boston - BC and Northeastern are very different experiences. Kids love both and both will give great educations - but if you want to be in the city, I can see where Northeastern (and BU) would edge out BC. Georgetown and Carnegie Mellon are harder admits (even if Northeastern fans don't want to admit it) and don't have huge bumps for early rounds that would capture the lower stats kids that also attend Northeastern (along with the high stats ones)
Some of the most popular majors are engineering. BC and GT don't even have it, so if you are engineering, they are automatically out.
UFlorida is a great option for FL instate, but for OOS with similar or little more, Northeastern wins.
Sure CMU CS and Engineering is harder admit
My kid was actually deciding between Northeastern CS+ Media Art vs CMU IS + IDEATE.
Yea my kid is not even a straight CS kid and CMU CS is out of reach.
Visited both and liked both schools, but decided CS might be better than IS degree in the long run although CMU had better prestige.
Ended up choosing Northeastern.
In summary, various reasons and decision points.
Anonymous
03/23/2023 14:05
Subject: Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will bite. My student had no interest in applying so no acceptance or rejection here.
It is not getting the strivers hellbent on Harvard.
I researched it ahead of my DD looking at schools, one of my DD’s best friends in in EA (probably won’t go b/c not enough merit) so my DD is probably in range.
The coop program is either a huge sell or a huge turnoff. All kids hear about is the need to get internships, this is a huge part of the program. It has some really interesting majors and I have heard good things about the tour from friends.
I am from the west coast and have only been out here 28 years so probably not as indoctrinated into the NEU is a commuter school mindset.
Boston is a great town.
Kids have different priorities and that is the problem with the rankings in the first place.
I am firmly in the camp of NEU is not elite, but I am also firmly in the camp of it sounds like a great school for a lot of students.
What kind of morons associate a T50 school with insane acceptance rate to a commuter school.
First - PP said they were NOT in the camp that considered Northeastern as a commuter school.
Second - Northeastern was VERY MUCH a commuter school up into the 90's (when many current parents were in school in Boston) so it's not some far fetched insult. Northeastern has changed a lot over time.
I'm not a Northeastern hater and think it's a great option for the right kid. The same could be said for other schools are - across the range of selectivity spectrum and the prestige spectrum. But I also lived in Boston at a time when Northeaster was more of a commuter population and it's amazing what they have done for their academic programs over time. The former- commuter doesn't have to be an insult, it's just fact.
That said - I am not a huge fan of their admissions practices or doling kids across campuses across the US and world. (I don't know, maybe that's great for some people too? But my kids wouldn't want that sort of setup)
Anonymous
03/23/2023 13:53
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In all seriousness. Is Northeastern anyone’s real first choice..?
People also complain NEU admits so many from ED
So yes? Duh
WHY is it first choice though? What does it offer that BC Georgetown Carnegie Mellon or even U Florida do not offer?
In Boston - BC and Northeastern are very different experiences. Kids love both and both will give great educations - but if you want to be in the city, I can see where Northeastern (and BU) would edge out BC. Georgetown and Carnegie Mellon are harder admits (even if Northeastern fans don't want to admit it) and don't have huge bumps for early rounds that would capture the lower stats kids that also attend Northeastern (along with the high stats ones)
Anonymous
03/23/2023 13:52
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mind boggling it’s only ranked #44 by USN given the level of selectivity and superlative quality of the admits. Is a gem that punches well above its weight, legitimately competing with the lower half of T25 (WashU, Cornell, Emory..)
let the haters hate but tippy top kids are applying (and often rejected) in droves..
Do they even admit any tippy top kids? They seems to prefer the next tier down..
Northeastern likes high stat kids.
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-smartest-colleges-in-america-2016-10
This was when test scores were mendatory.
Top 20 for national universities
First of all, this list is from 2016. Wasn't that around the time NE was engaging in questionable tactics to rank higher in USNWR? And where are you getting top 20? These are the top 20. NE is 25, so not sure why you need to twist the truth here. Amazing how these boosters try to spin stuff to make their school look like something it absolutely is not.
1. Caltech (1544)
2. MIT (1507)
3. Olin College of Eng. (1506)
3. Chicago (1506)
5. Yale (1498)
5. Vanderbilt (1498)
7. Harvard (1497)
8. Princeton (1490)
9. Harvey Mudd (1484)
10, Rice (1482)
11. Stanford (1479)
12. Columbia (1473)
13. WashU (1469)
14. Northwestern (1460)
15. Penn (1457)
15. Brown (1457)
17. Notre Dame (1455)
18. Hopkins (1453)
19. Amherst (1451)
20. Duke (1450)
NE use to buy national merit finalists with full,scholarships. They don’t do that anymore and instead just take lots of kids test optional.
TO rate for most of the 'elite' schools is 50-60%.
Northeastern is about average.
Anonymous
03/23/2023 13:50
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The stats of some of the non-admitted kids here are incredible. My kid (currently a freshman in Boston), was admitted EA last year into the Honors Program with an amazing merit scholarship. He had a 3.98 GPA/4.53 wGPA with an IB Diploma and 5 AP's with a 35 ACT, and very solid EC's with excellent leadership skills (Eagle Scout, 2-year captain of varsity and club hockey teams). He was rejected by UVa (in-state), Williams (legacy), Amherst, Yale, MIT, and Duke, and was admitted to NU, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, and JMU. Seems like he might have had a tougher time with NU this year. He is having an excellent experience so far.
My guess is that if you are high stats and want Northeaster to be an option in your final mix of RD decisions, you really need to apply EA. Otherwise, Northeastern will think you probably won't come and be a yield protection casualty. Whey would they think you want to come with high stats if you didn't make the effort in EA?
NE defers many EA applicants, high stats students probably need to ED, similar to Tulane. The schools are very similar with admission strategies and the Tulane admissions director is now at NE.
Anonymous
03/23/2023 13:48
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:The stats of some of the non-admitted kids here are incredible. My kid (currently a freshman in Boston), was admitted EA last year into the Honors Program with an amazing merit scholarship. He had a 3.98 GPA/4.53 wGPA with an IB Diploma and 5 AP's with a 35 ACT, and very solid EC's with excellent leadership skills (Eagle Scout, 2-year captain of varsity and club hockey teams). He was rejected by UVa (in-state), Williams (legacy), Amherst, Yale, MIT, and Duke, and was admitted to NU, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, and JMU. Seems like he might have had a tougher time with NU this year. He is having an excellent experience so far.
My guess is that if you are high stats and want Northeaster to be an option in your final mix of RD decisions, you really need to apply EA. Otherwise, Northeastern will think you probably won't come and be a yield protection casualty. Whey would they think you want to come with high stats if you didn't make the effort in EA?
Anonymous
03/23/2023 13:40
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mind boggling it’s only ranked #44 by USN given the level of selectivity and superlative quality of the admits. Is a gem that punches well above its weight, legitimately competing with the lower half of T25 (WashU, Cornell, Emory..)
let the haters hate but tippy top kids are applying (and often rejected) in droves..
Do they even admit any tippy top kids? They seems to prefer the next tier down..
Northeastern likes high stat kids.
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-smartest-colleges-in-america-2016-10
This was when test scores were mendatory.
Top 20 for national universities
First of all, this list is from 2016. Wasn't that around the time NE was engaging in questionable tactics to rank higher in USNWR? And where are you getting top 20? These are the top 20. NE is 25, so not sure why you need to twist the truth here. Amazing how these boosters try to spin stuff to make their school look like something it absolutely is not.
1. Caltech (1544)
2. MIT (1507)
3. Olin College of Eng. (1506)
3. Chicago (1506)
5. Yale (1498)
5. Vanderbilt (1498)
7. Harvard (1497)
8. Princeton (1490)
9. Harvey Mudd (1484)
10, Rice (1482)
11. Stanford (1479)
12. Columbia (1473)
13. WashU (1469)
14. Northwestern (1460)
15. Penn (1457)
15. Brown (1457)
17. Notre Dame (1455)
18. Hopkins (1453)
19. Amherst (1451)
20. Duke (1450)
NE use to buy national merit finalists with full,scholarships. They don’t do that anymore and instead just take lots of kids test optional.
Anonymous
03/23/2023 13:37
Subject: Re:Northeastern Regular Decision is out
NE now plays the test optional game with one of the highest rates of test optional admissions, around 60 percent. They also only report test scores for students who start at Boston Campus. So whatever they claim is the average test score represents the average for about 20 percent of the clas, at most.. Definitely not a measure of the overall student body.