Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 08:35     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Same state is also getting rid of its maternal mortality review
board, probably because it’s going to be awkward to find a cause of death “woman died of preventable sepsis because our laws are archaic”

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2023/02/20/a-law-meant-to-save-lives-of-idaho-mothers-is-on-the-chopping-block-will-lawmakers-keep-it/


Wow. Wow. Wow.

"Fake News" = just get rid of the statistics you don't want. Unbelievable!

It's like the covid deniers... if you don't report covid deaths, then the numbers don't look so bad.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 08:33     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:The other thing is that residents in states with abortion bans are not going to learn the standard of care for emergency pregnancy situations. So those residents will not get hired in states that do allow the full range of maternal care. So why would a resident want to do residency in such a state?

good point. They won't be able to even get new residents.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 08:14     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban


An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.


Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?

Yes. Obstetrics was always a high insurance field in which to practice - the stakes are so high and our society so litigious - but who is going to want to practice in the backward states now? It’ll probably start in the margins in the rural areas at first and then bleed into the cities.

Losing pediatricians is going to hollow out wherever kids live and leave the remaining kids extremely vulnerable. What a moronic mess the GOP has made for themselves.


It sure as heck won't be the indian and chinese doctors who come to the US to practice.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 08:02     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban


An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.


Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?


How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.


I live in Virginia. My OBGYN performed my abortion (several shots of methotrexate for an ectopic). Of course I wasn't referred to PP.


It’s not “of course”. I thought the same the earlier PP did because when I needed mine my OBGYN office was like of course we don’t do that! I went to PP.


Was your hospital OBGYN practice religiously affiliated? I know that Georgetown won't even do IUDs. I will never ever go to a Catholic hospital for anything. Not worth the risk.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 07:58     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:Same state is also getting rid of its maternal mortality review
board, probably because it’s going to be awkward to find a cause of death “woman died of preventable sepsis because our laws are archaic”

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2023/02/20/a-law-meant-to-save-lives-of-idaho-mothers-is-on-the-chopping-block-will-lawmakers-keep-it/


Wow. Wow. Wow.

"Fake News" = just get rid of the statistics you don't want. Unbelievable!
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 07:55     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban


An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.


Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?


How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.


I live in Virginia. My OBGYN performed my abortion (several shots of methotrexate for an ectopic). Of course I wasn't referred to PP.


When was this?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 07:18     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban


An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.


Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?


How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.


I live in Virginia. My OBGYN performed my abortion (several shots of methotrexate for an ectopic). Of course I wasn't referred to PP.


It’s not “of course”. I thought the same the earlier PP did because when I needed mine my OBGYN office was like of course we don’t do that! I went to PP.


Point being that no, Planned Parenthood isn't the sole abortion provider in VA, and some OBGYN practices (as well as some MFMs) handle that medical care.


And my guess is ultrasound was liberally used, probably to track the progress of resolution of the ectopic.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 07:16     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban


An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.


Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?


How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.


I live in Virginia. My OBGYN performed my abortion (several shots of methotrexate for an ectopic). Of course I wasn't referred to PP.


It’s not “of course”. I thought the same the earlier PP did because when I needed mine my OBGYN office was like of course we don’t do that! I went to PP.


Point being that no, Planned Parenthood isn't the sole abortion provider in VA, and some OBGYN practices (as well as some MFMs) handle that medical care.


Abortion of a healthy pregnancy is NOT the same medically.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 07:15     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban


An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.


Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?


How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.


I live in Virginia. My OBGYN performed my abortion (several shots of methotrexate for an ectopic). Of course I wasn't referred to PP.


Because it was ectopic. You don’t see the difference?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 06:42     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban


An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.


Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?


How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.


I live in Virginia. My OBGYN performed my abortion (several shots of methotrexate for an ectopic). Of course I wasn't referred to PP.


It’s not “of course”. I thought the same the earlier PP did because when I needed mine my OBGYN office was like of course we don’t do that! I went to PP.


Point being that no, Planned Parenthood isn't the sole abortion provider in VA, and some OBGYN practices (as well as some MFMs) handle that medical care.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 04:46     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban


An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.


Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?


How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.


I live in Virginia. My OBGYN performed my abortion (several shots of methotrexate for an ectopic). Of course I wasn't referred to PP.


It’s not “of course”. I thought the same the earlier PP did because when I needed mine my OBGYN office was like of course we don’t do that! I went to PP.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 01:25     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

This is chilling.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 00:22     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban


An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.


Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?


How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.


I live in Virginia. My OBGYN performed my abortion (several shots of methotrexate for an ectopic). Of course I wasn't referred to PP.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 23:04     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:Same state is also getting rid of its maternal mortality review
board, probably because it’s going to be awkward to find a cause of death “woman died of preventable sepsis because our laws are archaic”

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2023/02/20/a-law-meant-to-save-lives-of-idaho-mothers-is-on-the-chopping-block-will-lawmakers-keep-it/

Texas had to change how they did maternal mortality numbers several years ago when they first made birth control and abortion harder to get (closing a number of providers, IIRC).

They’re closing this down altogether here because women are going to die at rates probably not seen since the pre antibiotic/pre blood transfusion days. Way to go, forced birthers. You’re killing women like you always wanted to!
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 22:31     Subject: Anti-abortion laws cause ID hospital to stop delivering babies

Anonymous wrote:Same state is also getting rid of its maternal mortality review
board, probably because it’s going to be awkward to find a cause of death “woman died of preventable sepsis because our laws are archaic”

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2023/02/20/a-law-meant-to-save-lives-of-idaho-mothers-is-on-the-chopping-block-will-lawmakers-keep-it/


F these Republican men

Fred Birnbaum, a representative of the Idaho Freedom Foundation, spoke to oppose the bill.

He argued that it was designed to increase government spending and cause more low-income pregnant and postpartum Idahoans to be covered by Medicaid, to ensure they have health care.

Birnbaum suggested that the maternal deaths may not be numerous enough to warrant scrutiny.