Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 15:22     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want to know what your plan is to pay for it.


A special tax assessment on all non-black residents and sell municipal bonds for outside supporters to help fund.


So what the plan that will actually pass constitutional muster?
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 14:52     Subject: San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty liberal and I think the SF plan sounds bonkers. It seems like a very slippery slope. Racism is real, the wealth gap goes way back to slavery and the Jim Crow laws so something needs to be done to help close that gap, but arbitrary rules about who gets a giant check doesn’t seem like a good solution.


This proposal will literally depopulate SF. The only citizens who will remain there will be those will receive these reparation payments. SF will have to choose between higher taxes to fund this proposal, or reduce govt services, neither of which makes SF an attractive place. Simply bizarre.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 06:04     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:
Ethnic Japanese people were also literally kept in labor camps. In some families, US soldiers of Japanese descent went to fight in the US military and their wives and children were sent to labor camps. Shameful. Many of the victims are still alive today. No one is rallying to pay them.


????They did get reparations--though it was peanuts. In 1988.


And freed slaves got 40 acres and a mule.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 23:48     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:I want to know what your plan is to pay for it.


A special tax assessment on all non-black residents and sell municipal bonds for outside supporters to help fund.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 21:20     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:I want to know what your plan is to pay for it.


Yep. California is running a deficit right now. https://calmatters.org/commentary/2023/02/budget-deficit-may-be-larger/
Can't imagine that SF is rolling in the dough. According to this piece, they aren't.... https://sfstandard.com/politics/san-francisco-set-for-hard-times-as-huge-728m-budget-hole-could-get-worse/
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 20:06     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations
I want to know what your plan is to pay for it.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 19:52     Subject: San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California as a whole has lost its collective mind.


Understatement of the century. Elections have consequences.


This is what Californians want. There are many extremely wealthy liberals in the state. I’m reasonably certain that they will open their wallets for this and the over $200,000 statewide payments that will be happening—and justly so.


Is this really what Californians want? I thought it was San Francisco only and I don't think it was voted on by SF residents in their local elections. Did the reparations amount come from a committee appointed by the SF City Council or was it statewide? What was the representation on that committee? Were they all African American?


It was what ONE person wanted, out of hundreds of proposals. Yet it's somehow now been extrapolated all the way out to "this is what Californians want." Logic fail.


Ya get what ya vote for.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 19:52     Subject: San Franciso reparations
The accelerationist in me says have at it!

Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 19:50     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do black people deserve reparations from the State of California or the city of San Francisco? Reparations for what? Seems like other groups should be ahead of them.


And what other groups would those be?

Pick up a book.


Can pick up a book until you tell me which ones I'm supposed to be reading about....

Chinese, Native Americans, Latinos. Sorry, but black people aren’t always the winners of the historical victim Olympics.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 15:23     Subject: San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California as a whole has lost its collective mind.


Understatement of the century. Elections have consequences.


This is what Californians want. There are many extremely wealthy liberals in the state. I’m reasonably certain that they will open their wallets for this and the over $200,000 statewide payments that will be happening—and justly so.


Is this really what Californians want? I thought it was San Francisco only and I don't think it was voted on by SF residents in their local elections. Did the reparations amount come from a committee appointed by the SF City Council or was it statewide? What was the representation on that committee? Were they all African American?


It was what ONE person wanted, out of hundreds of proposals. Yet it's somehow now been extrapolated all the way out to "this is what Californians want." Logic fail.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 15:20     Subject: San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California as a whole has lost its collective mind.


Understatement of the century. Elections have consequences.


This is what Californians want. There are many extremely wealthy liberals in the state. I’m reasonably certain that they will open their wallets for this and the over $200,000 statewide payments that will be happening—and justly so.


Is this really what Californians want? I thought it was San Francisco only and I don't think it was voted on by SF residents in their local elections. Did the reparations amount come from a committee appointed by the SF City Council or was it statewide? What was the representation on that committee? Were they all African American?


This part is SF. But there will quite likely be statewide reparations too. Californians voted for a governor who supported setting up the state committee that will soon make it’s recommendation.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 15:18     Subject: San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:The first people in line for anything in the form of reparations are the native Americans. Every other race is like a super distant second.

Maybe we do not have to pay off all the native Americans -maybe running water and cell phone service on the reservations would be a nice gesture. Some schools would be cool too.


This thing called history will inform you about schools on reservations. The way reservations were handled by white people was shameful.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 15:05     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do black people deserve reparations from the State of California or the city of San Francisco? Reparations for what? Seems like other groups should be ahead of them.


And what other groups would those be?


The Chinese. SF and the west was built with coolie labor, not black slave labor.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 15:00     Subject: San Franciso reparations
The first people in line for anything in the form of reparations are the native Americans. Every other race is like a super distant second.

Maybe we do not have to pay off all the native Americans -maybe running water and cell phone service on the reservations would be a nice gesture. Some schools would be cool too.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2023 14:51     Subject: San Franciso reparations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California as a whole has lost its collective mind.


Understatement of the century. Elections have consequences.


This is what Californians want. There are many extremely wealthy liberals in the state. I’m reasonably certain that they will open their wallets for this and the over $200,000 statewide payments that will be happening—and justly so.


Is this really what Californians want? I thought it was San Francisco only and I don't think it was voted on by SF residents in their local elections. Did the reparations amount come from a committee appointed by the SF City Council or was it statewide? What was the representation on that committee? Were they all African American?