Anonymous wrote:Seems like a great program, but some posters (paid astroturfers) resent public schools and spending on anything like SEL programs. The only good use of tax dollars to them is to make public schools into prisons.

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Anonymous wrote:The training was incredibly boring. Have something with you so you can multitask. (And the kids really don’t like it, unfortunately)

That's a bad attitude. Do your students do this when you're teaching?

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Anonymous wrote:I did the leader in me training last summer and it was the worst 2 day training I have ever been to in my life.
Our school decided not to use the leader in me curriculum because it is laughably bad.
Now we have to attend part 2 of training and the thought of it is making me want to cry.
When I ask my school if I can attend a summer PD in my content area, they say there is no money for it.
The wasted money at MCPS makes me so angry

So Elrich wants to raise property taxes by 10% to pay for this and more central office jobs?

Anonymous wrote:NP. How does the Leader in Me differ from the 7 Habits? I studied the 7 Habits when the book first came out, and found the concepts extremely useful in my college and grad school years.

Anonymous wrote:I did the leader in me training last summer and it was the worst 2 day training I have ever been to in my life.
Our school decided not to use the leader in me curriculum because it is laughably bad.
Now we have to attend part 2 of training and the thought of it is making me want to cry.
When I ask my school if I can attend a summer PD in my content area, they say there is no money for it.
The wasted money at MCPS makes me so angry

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Anonymous wrote:I remember we had to read the 7 habits for teens in high school and no one then bought in, so it made it extremely difficult for our teacher. This was in 2003. The kids didn’t buy in then, they aren’t buying in now. It’s such a waste of time and money.

Weird, when they did LIM last year most of the kids seemed to really enjoy and even benefit from it.

Anonymous wrote:I remember we had to read the 7 habits for teens in high school and no one then bought in, so it made it extremely difficult for our teacher. This was in 2003. The kids didn’t buy in then, they aren’t buying in now. It’s such a waste of time and money.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of one teacher in my school who likes it. He is able to connect it to his passion second gig, coaching/refereeing. I have heard anyone else say anything good. A lot of staff hate it and aren’t shy about telling the students. Most staff are ambivalent and just middle our way through the lessons. They are clearly not meant for high schoolers. The videos and examples seem geared to middle school at best. At the high school level SEL needs to provide actual leadership opportunities, but Leader in me is a lot of happy talk which rubs everyone the wrong way.

The only people who don't like it at our school are the ones that dislike everything anyways. Personally I think they resent working and are angry about everything.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of one teacher in my school who likes it. He is able to connect it to his passion second gig, coaching/refereeing. I have heard anyone else say anything good. A lot of staff hate it and aren’t shy about telling the students. Most staff are ambivalent and just middle our way through the lessons. They are clearly not meant for high schoolers. The videos and examples seem geared to middle school at best. At the high school level SEL needs to provide actual leadership opportunities, but Leader in me is a lot of happy talk which rubs everyone the wrong way.

The only people who don't like it at our school are the ones that dislike everything anyways. Personally I think they resent working and are angry about everything.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of one teacher in my school who likes it. He is able to connect it to his passion second gig, coaching/refereeing. I have heard anyone else say anything good. A lot of staff hate it and aren’t shy about telling the students. Most staff are ambivalent and just middle our way through the lessons. They are clearly not meant for high schoolers. The videos and examples seem geared to middle school at best. At the high school level SEL needs to provide actual leadership opportunities, but Leader in me is a lot of happy talk which rubs everyone the wrong way.

The only people who don't like it at our school are the ones that dislike everything anyways. Personally I think they resent working and are angry about everything.

Anonymous wrote:I know of one teacher in my school who likes it. He is able to connect it to his passion second gig, coaching/refereeing. I have heard anyone else say anything good. A lot of staff hate it and aren’t shy about telling the students. Most staff are ambivalent and just middle our way through the lessons. They are clearly not meant for high schoolers. The videos and examples seem geared to middle school at best. At the high school level SEL needs to provide actual leadership opportunities, but Leader in me is a lot of happy talk which rubs everyone the wrong way.

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I don’t thinks there’s anything inherently wrong with the LIM teachings. However, there has to be buy-in from both staff and students. Right now MCPS is in crisis. For most of DCUM, your children attend the better schools- the ones where most parents are able to purchase school supplies, feed your children, have housing security, etc… However, the majority of the county is not like that.

The children are coming in with no basics. They are far behind in academics (think a 4th grader who can’t do 7-6 without using her fingers or a 5th grader unable to write a basic sentence). Their behavior is also far behind. The kids think running down the hall screaming in the middle of class is normal. Fist fight on the playground are weekly. Racial slurs are constant.

What most teachers are saying, is that right now there are more important worries than this curriculum. It’s not what SEL should look like based on what we are actually seeing in class. If the curriculum covered things like zones of regulation or general study skill or school appropriate behaviors, then there would be a lot more buy-in.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. How does the Leader in Me differ from the 7 Habits? I studied the 7 Habits when the book first came out, and found the concepts extremely useful in my college and grad school years.

I think it is the kids’ version of that.