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Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna need to see proof that it was students being violent .

PP can't provide that. Best PP can do is some student designing posters.

The violent clashes were ANTIFA and Proud Boys who fight at all these things.

This "woe is me, my extremist, racist viewpoints are being censored by woke university students isn't that against free speech" whining (hardly a new playbook for these losers) is just really old, tired, and no one is buying it anymore... except Fox News, of course.

WAIT JUST A MINUTE HERE!!!!

Antifa is just "an idea!" That is what we have been told repeatedly. Jerry Nadler says they don't exist. Biden calls Antifa "an idea." Hell, even Joy Behar says they don't exist.
How can "an idea" cause violence and break windows?

And, what proof do you have that these were NOT students who were "protesting" on........<checks notes> ..... a college campus?

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna need to see proof that it was students being violent .

PP can't provide that. Best PP can do is some student designing posters.

The violent clashes were ANTIFA and Proud Boys who fight at all these things.

This "woe is me, my extremist, racist viewpoints are being censored by woke university students isn't that against free speech" whining (hardly a new playbook for these losers) is just really old, tired, and no one is buying it anymore... except Fox News, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

He was free to speak. They were free to protest. Kirk’s message is fundamentally anti-American. The end. But nongovernment threatened his free speech rights.

You act like all speech is valid. Charlie Kirk’s speech isn’t valid. He still gave it and there were consequences for it since most people think he is a vile person.

Free speech doesn’t mean you’re owed a platform and a channel to say what you want unchallenged.

Tell us how Kirk's message is "UnAmerican." Be specific.

When student protests include blocking entrances, breaking windows, throwing eggs...... no, my dear. This is not promoting freedom of speech.

Among many examples, Kirk is a prolific election denier and liar. He attacks democracy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/530239-geraldo-rivera-charlie-kirk-clash-over-voter-fraud-that-is-so-dishonest/

And has been already pointed out, it wasn’t “students” doing these things.

WTF?
How is questioning an election "UnAmerican?" It's not. There are still a lot of questions about the legitimacy of the election including judges that allowed election protocols to take place against the laws of a state. And, the impact a letter from 51 "former intelligence officials" had on the election. Turns out the crap they spewed was false.

Prove it wasn't students. Better yet... here is a citation to prove it WAS students....

Marco Perez, a Chicano studies and design student at UC Davis, heard on Monday night that Kirk would be visiting campus. On Tuesday, he designed some protest placards and handed them out to the demonstrators. “Obviously, the students’ views do not align with those of Charlie Kirk,” Perez said. “I think that some of the ideas he presents are problematic, provocative and they go against the needs and the beliefs of the students here on campus.”

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article273154315.html#storylink=cpy

Kirk didn’t “question an election.” He actively perpetuated a fiction that he knew was a lie. He is among the most prolific of people continuing to persist with the fiction that is destabilizing. https://youtu.be/qi_o1I7wOmA

I’m glad you acknowledge that the UC Davis student quoted designed a placard and wasn’t committing violence or throwing eggs etc.

Why were Kirk supporting Proud Boys inciting violence? Answer that.

Citation for this claim. Because, what we know so far is that students were the ones in attendance at the "mostly peaceful protest."

The Proud Boys' presence on campus has been a thing for months.

https://theaggie.org/2023/03/03/uc-davis-students-organize-community-and-mutual-aid-event-no-fash-fest/

Here are some details from the October clashes:

"About an hour into the event, a group of counter-protesters who are believed to be affiliated with the Proud Boys based on their attire, arrived. The Proud Boys are an exclusively male far-right extremist group that has a history of instigating and engaging with political violence; some members are also involved in white supremacist groups.

Members of the crowd used pepper spray, including those identifiable as Proud Boys, although it is currently unclear who initiated its use. According to eyewitness reports there were also physical altercations, although Farrow said that only one such report has been officially made to the UC Davis Police Department (UCDPD) as of Oct. 28."

https://theaggie.org/2022/11/03/students-react-to-violence-outside-of-turning-point-usa-event/

For the record, UC Davis itself has taken the stance that Kirk was welcome to speak and that this week's clashes produced only "minor" incidents.

https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/controversial-student-led-event-goes-planned

So, again, this is just another in a running battle between ANTIFA and Proud Boy types. The difference here is ANTIFA is the good guys. ANTIFA stands for "anti-fascists." You know, they're kind of like my grandfather, a WWII veteran who stormed the beach at Normandy.

I’m gonna need to see proof that it was students being violent .

Anonymous wrote:Once again Libs obfuscate and try to bring it on back to Jan 6.

“Everyone at the Capitol entered it.”

No it was a fraction of the attendees.

“THEY ALL defecated in the Rotunda.”

No it was one.

“Those weren’t students protesting.”

Yes it was. It was also members of other groups. It sure was students trying to get in in the video. It was students who had to hide their faces with masks and umbrellas.

But but Jan 6. It is all Republicans.

Just another super typical okaying of destruction by liberals protesting what they deem as unfavorable speech and have to name it Hate Speech.

The hypocrisy of the defenders is strong.

I wonder how many other speakers have the chancellor give his take before their speech.

So much for the open exchange of ideas!

So true. And, his speech likely contributed to the destruction and violence.
Kind of a "soft" condoning of students reacting negatively, and in some cases, violently, to a speaker with whom he disagrees.

Once again Libs obfuscate and try to bring it on back to Jan 6.

“Everyone at the Capitol entered it.”

No it was a fraction of the attendees.

“THEY ALL defecated in the Rotunda.”

No it was one.

“Those weren’t students protesting.”

Yes it was. It was also members of other groups. It sure was students trying to get in in the video. It was students who had to hide their faces with masks and umbrellas.

But but Jan 6. It is all Republicans.

Just another super typical okaying of destruction by liberals protesting what they deem as unfavorable speech and have to name it Hate Speech.

The hypocrisy of the defenders is strong.

I wonder how many other speakers have the chancellor give his take before their speech.

So much for the open exchange of ideas!

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Kirk is literally about to be on FOX right now.
Because this was the entire point.

No, his entire point was to give a speech.
But, the snowflakes couldn't handle it.

And, he is not on Fox now.

Stop lying. They literally just threw to him.

They literally played video of the "protest" and then played a video clip of an interview Kirk had LAST NIGHT.

No, they did not just "throw to him."

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Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

He was free to speak. They were free to protest. Kirk’s message is fundamentally anti-American. The end. But nongovernment threatened his free speech rights.

You act like all speech is valid. Charlie Kirk’s speech isn’t valid. He still gave it and there were consequences for it since most people think he is a vile person.

Free speech doesn’t mean you’re owed a platform and a channel to say what you want unchallenged.

Tell us how Kirk's message is "UnAmerican." Be specific.

When student protests include blocking entrances, breaking windows, throwing eggs...... no, my dear. This is not promoting freedom of speech.

Among many examples, Kirk is a prolific election denier and liar. He attacks democracy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/530239-geraldo-rivera-charlie-kirk-clash-over-voter-fraud-that-is-so-dishonest/

And has been already pointed out, it wasn’t “students” doing these things.

WTF?
How is questioning an election "UnAmerican?" It's not. There are still a lot of questions about the legitimacy of the election including judges that allowed election protocols to take place against the laws of a state. And, the impact a letter from 51 "former intelligence officials" had on the election. Turns out the crap they spewed was false.

Prove it wasn't students. Better yet... here is a citation to prove it WAS students....

Marco Perez, a Chicano studies and design student at UC Davis, heard on Monday night that Kirk would be visiting campus. On Tuesday, he designed some protest placards and handed them out to the demonstrators. “Obviously, the students’ views do not align with those of Charlie Kirk,” Perez said. “I think that some of the ideas he presents are problematic, provocative and they go against the needs and the beliefs of the students here on campus.”

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article273154315.html#storylink=cpy

Kirk didn’t “question an election.” He actively perpetuated a fiction that he knew was a lie. He is among the most prolific of people continuing to persist with the fiction that is destabilizing. https://youtu.be/qi_o1I7wOmA

I’m glad you acknowledge that the UC Davis student quoted designed a placard and wasn’t committing violence or throwing eggs etc.

Why were Kirk supporting Proud Boys inciting violence? Answer that.

Citation for this claim. Because, what we know so far is that students were the ones in attendance at the "mostly peaceful protest."

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Kirk is literally about to be on FOX right now.
Because this was the entire point.

No, his entire point was to give a speech.
But, the snowflakes couldn't handle it.

And, he is not on Fox now.

Stop lying. They literally just threw to him.

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Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

He was free to speak. They were free to protest. Kirk’s message is fundamentally anti-American. The end. But nongovernment threatened his free speech rights.

You act like all speech is valid. Charlie Kirk’s speech isn’t valid. He still gave it and there were consequences for it since most people think he is a vile person.

Free speech doesn’t mean you’re owed a platform and a channel to say what you want unchallenged.

Tell us how Kirk's message is "UnAmerican." Be specific.

When student protests include blocking entrances, breaking windows, throwing eggs...... no, my dear. This is not promoting freedom of speech.

Among many examples, Kirk is a prolific election denier and liar. He attacks democracy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/530239-geraldo-rivera-charlie-kirk-clash-over-voter-fraud-that-is-so-dishonest/

And has been already pointed out, it wasn’t “students” doing these things.

WTF?
How is questioning an election "UnAmerican?" It's not. There are still a lot of questions about the legitimacy of the election including judges that allowed election protocols to take place against the laws of a state. And, the impact a letter from 51 "former intelligence officials" had on the election. Turns out the crap they spewed was false.

Prove it wasn't students. Better yet... here is a citation to prove it WAS students....

Marco Perez, a Chicano studies and design student at UC Davis, heard on Monday night that Kirk would be visiting campus. On Tuesday, he designed some protest placards and handed them out to the demonstrators. “Obviously, the students’ views do not align with those of Charlie Kirk,” Perez said. “I think that some of the ideas he presents are problematic, provocative and they go against the needs and the beliefs of the students here on campus.”

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article273154315.html#storylink=cpy

Kirk didn’t “question an election.” He actively perpetuated a fiction that he knew was a lie. He is among the most prolific of people continuing to persist with the fiction that is destabilizing. https://youtu.be/qi_o1I7wOmA

I’m glad you acknowledge that the UC Davis student quoted designed a placard and wasn’t committing violence or throwing eggs etc.

Why were Kirk supporting Proud Boys inciting violence? Answer that.

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Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

He was free to speak. They were free to protest. Kirk’s message is fundamentally anti-American. The end. But nongovernment threatened his free speech rights.

You act like all speech is valid. Charlie Kirk’s speech isn’t valid. He still gave it and there were consequences for it since most people think he is a vile person.

Free speech doesn’t mean you’re owed a platform and a channel to say what you want unchallenged.

Tell us how Kirk's message is "UnAmerican." Be specific.

When student protests include blocking entrances, breaking windows, throwing eggs...... no, my dear. This is not promoting freedom of speech.

Among many examples, Kirk is a prolific election denier and liar. He attacks democracy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/530239-geraldo-rivera-charlie-kirk-clash-over-voter-fraud-that-is-so-dishonest/

And has been already pointed out, it wasn’t “students” doing these things.

WTF?
How is questioning an election "UnAmerican?" It's not. There are still a lot of questions about the legitimacy of the election including judges that allowed election protocols to take place against the laws of a state. And, the impact a letter from 51 "former intelligence officials" had on the election. Turns out the crap they spewed was false.

Prove it wasn't students. Better yet... here is a citation to prove it WAS students....

Marco Perez, a Chicano studies and design student at UC Davis, heard on Monday night that Kirk would be visiting campus. On Tuesday, he designed some protest placards and handed them out to the demonstrators. “Obviously, the students’ views do not align with those of Charlie Kirk,” Perez said. “I think that some of the ideas he presents are problematic, provocative and they go against the needs and the beliefs of the students here on campus.”

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article273154315.html#storylink=cpy

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/elon-musk-respond-protesters-smash-windows-hurl-eggs-charlie-kirk-event-college-campus.amp

About 100 protesters at the University of California, Davis, surrounded a venue attempting to disrupt an event Tuesday evening headlined by conservative personality and Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. The event was organized by the school’s Turning Point chapter.

The protesters, who were mostly wearing black, clashed with law enforcement officers and other students, including attendees of the event, as they smashed windows, hurled eggs, used pepper spray and blocked people from entering the University Credit Union Center, where the event was held.

Gosh I hope the liberal intelligencia condemns this protest with the same fervor they have others.

One officer sustained an injury when he was jumped on from behind and pushed to the ground, and two people were arrested and taken to Yolo County Jail for allegedly painting graffiti on an exterior wall of the University Credit Union Center, or UCUC

The cowards of course covered their faces as much as possible. Isn’t the point of college to be have your beliefs challenged and at least allow others to be heard? Shameful.

Why? It's their right to protest. Whether you like it, or the issue, or not. Just like it's the right of MAGA idiots to stand on the corner disrupting my commute with their idiotic "stop the steal." I didn't like it but it is their right.

Once again - is it their right to jump LEOs, pepper spray others, break windows, vandalize, graffiti, block entrances, throw eggs and other projectiles? The irony of someone like you calling others "idiots" is just astounding.
DP

Funny that you mention pepper spray. Isn't UC Davis the school where the campus cop casually pepper sprayed a row of peaceful students while they were sitting down?

Yes, they then paid consultants to try and scrub the image

https://www.kcra.com/article/experts-uc-davis-plan-to-spend-175k-clean-up-image-backfired/6428144



I guess they never heard of the Streisand effect

Didn't that campus cop also then file for workman's compensation because he strained his finger while doing it?