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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

OP, this person, and her attitude, is your answer. Unmedicated birth is great if it's what you want and things turn out well for you. Congrats.

Believing that unmedicated birth is an achievement on par with training for a marathon, an accomplishment that lazy people envy but did not deserve, or even an outcome that was within your control is both stupid and exhausting to listen to. These are the same people who will tell women with pelvic floor injuries that they just didn't visualize effectively enough. Idiots, and loud ones, and they give regular women a terrible name and make discussing childbirth a minefield instead of an exchange of experiences or an opportunity for support.

The marathon is a great example though.

Running and training for a marathon is terrible for your health. Most people who do it have m we natal health issues like obsessive compulsiveness, anxiety, depression and need it to manage their own type of “crazy”, but then act like it’s some sort of accomplishment.

He if you need to run to manage your mental health /avoid time with family go for it … but it’s not good or gear or even healthy. Enjoy your hip/knee surgery.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are some people so bothered by a medicated birth?

OP here. Exactly. Why is anyone bothered by how anyone else gives birth? I don’t understand it. Why don’t we just support each other?

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

If everyone crosses the finish line then it's not an accomplishment one way or the other.

Giving birth is a huge accomplishment.

Actually, it's really not. And yes, I've given birth.

It as a process that happens one way or another and if you are lucky results in a healthy mother and baby. It is not an accomplishment. Thinking it's an accomplishment is where all of the toxic language around going unmedicated comes from.

This

That’s a very odd attitude imo. You’ve literally created a new human life with your body and one way or another delivered that child into the world. That’s immense, and really a miracle.

This is only true if you really believe you are truly special and your offspring is a blessed miracle.

I’m glad I’m not so cynical as you are

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

If everyone crosses the finish line then it's not an accomplishment one way or the other.

Giving birth is a huge accomplishment.

Actually, it's really not. And yes, I've given birth.

It as a process that happens one way or another and if you are lucky results in a healthy mother and baby. It is not an accomplishment. Thinking it's an accomplishment is where all of the toxic language around going unmedicated comes from.

This

That’s a very odd attitude imo. You’ve literally created a new human life with your body and one way or another delivered that child into the world. That’s immense, and really a miracle.

This is only true if you really believe you are truly special and your offspring is a blessed miracle.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

If everyone crosses the finish line then it's not an accomplishment one way or the other.

Giving birth is a huge accomplishment.

Actually, it's really not. And yes, I've given birth.

It as a process that happens one way or another and if you are lucky results in a healthy mother and baby. It is not an accomplishment. Thinking it's an accomplishment is where all of the toxic language around going unmedicated comes from.

This

That’s a very odd attitude imo. You’ve literally created a new human life with your body and one way or another delivered that child into the world. That’s immense, and really a miracle.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

If everyone crosses the finish line then it's not an accomplishment one way or the other.

Giving birth is a huge accomplishment.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

If everyone crosses the finish line then it's not an accomplishment one way or the other.

Giving birth is a huge accomplishment.

Actually, it's really not. And yes, I've given birth.

It as a process that happens one way or another and if you are lucky results in a healthy mother and baby. It is not an accomplishment. Thinking it's an accomplishment is where all of the toxic language around going unmedicated comes from.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

OP, this person, and her attitude, is your answer. Unmedicated birth is great if it's what you want and things turn out well for you. Congrats.

Believing that unmedicated birth is an achievement on par with training for a marathon, an accomplishment that lazy people envy but did not deserve, or even an outcome that was within your control is both stupid and exhausting to listen to. These are the same people who will tell women with pelvic floor injuries that they just didn't visualize effectively enough. Idiots, and loud ones, and they give regular women a terrible name and make discussing childbirth a minefield instead of an exchange of experiences or an opportunity for support.

The marathon is a great example though.

Running and training for a marathon is terrible for your health. Most people who do it have m we natal health issues like obsessive compulsiveness, anxiety, depression and need it to manage their own type of “crazy”, but then act like it’s some sort of accomplishment.

He if you need to run to manage your mental health /avoid time with family go for it … but it’s not good or gear or even healthy. Enjoy your hip/knee surgery.

Why are you angry about someone else’s birth experience? Why are you angry about my running habits?
If you are upset that your deliveries didn’t go how you want, you should work through that but my delivery has nothing to do with that.
If you feel bad about yourself in comparison to other people’s choices, that’s a you problem and maybe therapy can help.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

If everyone crosses the finish line then it's not an accomplishment one way or the other.

Giving birth is a huge accomplishment.

Actually, it's really not. And yes, I've given birth.

It as a process that happens one way or another and if you are lucky results in a healthy mother and baby. It is not an accomplishment. Thinking it's an accomplishment is where all of the toxic language around going unmedicated comes from.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

If everyone crosses the finish line then it's not an accomplishment one way or the other.

Giving birth is a huge accomplishment.