Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 10:50     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Is US News on UChicago’s payroll? Essentially every other rankings has them doing way worse. Same with Hopkins.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 10:33     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thiis ranking doesn't include QS undergrad ranking. Which I think is more informative than most of the rankings here.
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/usa-rankings/2021


Isn't QS a grad ranking? Whatever you linked is not undergrad-specific --- it just shows the overall grad schools of US universities.

No qs makes an undergrad ranking as well. That is it. What you're speaking of is something different.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 10:18     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:Thiis ranking doesn't include QS undergrad ranking. Which I think is more informative than most of the rankings here.
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/usa-rankings/2021


Isn't QS a grad ranking? Whatever you linked is not undergrad-specific --- it just shows the overall grad schools of US universities.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 10:15     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Thiis ranking doesn't include QS undergrad ranking. Which I think is more informative than most of the rankings here.
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/usa-rankings/2021
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 10:08     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just ask your self if you were admitted to both Duke and Harvard, which one would you pick regardless of major? Is there really any exception in the answer? That tells you this ranking is worthless.


So if more people want it, it must be the best? That's your decision-making paradigm?


+1 Harvard is consistently criticized for not paying enough attention to undergrads, but the name is the main draw for most of the top applicants.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 09:14     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:Just ask your self if you were admitted to both Duke and Harvard, which one would you pick regardless of major? Is there really any exception in the answer? That tells you this ranking is worthless.


So if more people want it, it must be the best? That's your decision-making paradigm?
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 09:08     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:It impresses me how consistently Northwestern appears to rank in the top 10 in these kinds of lists.


They're #2 on the less well-known list below that uses very different criteria. Pomona is #1. They seem to hold up well regardless of the criteria used.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/6/
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 08:52     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Junk in/junk out

Not meaningful.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 08:32     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.



+1 Its just an yearly musical chairs of same 20 colleges on ranking lists.


Agree. I’d be more interested to see the composite list of say the next 10 colleges (such as, does any source besides USNWR rank Wake Forest at a top 30 college? Also, why no WSJ/THE ranking factored into the composite? Isn’t that one more reputable than some included?



WSJ stands for Wall Street Journal, it’s included as the second source after US News
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2023 02:08     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.



+1 Its just an yearly musical chairs of same 20 colleges on ranking lists.


Agree. I’d be more interested to see the composite list of say the next 10 colleges (such as, does any source besides USNWR rank Wake Forest at a top 30 college? Also, why no WSJ/THE ranking factored into the composite? Isn’t that one more reputable than some included?

Anonymous
Post 03/07/2023 23:14     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:It impresses me how consistently Northwestern appears to rank in the top 10 in these kinds of lists.


I’m a big northwestern fan but it only ranked in the top 10 in 2/8 of the rankings used here. Interestingly there were only 4 schools ranked in the top 10 in all of the rankings: Stanford, MIT, Princeton, and Duke. Outside of those schools I think Penn was really impressive in terms of their consistency
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2023 23:04     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
It impresses me how consistently Northwestern appears to rank in the top 10 in these kinds of lists.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2023 23:02     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In which universe UF is better than UCSD?


What's so hard to believe about that? UF is the best school in the 3rd largest state in the country. UCSD isn't a top 5 school in its own state. Lots of local Florida talent heads to UF while UCSD gets the leftovers after Californians get into Stanford, Caltech, UCLA, Berkeley, and even Pomona, Harvey Mudd, USC, etc. UCSD is still a great school though and they have great students given how large Cali is.


THIS! ^^^
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2023 22:59     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:niche??? lol


Niche is a great resource. We used it when DS was applying for private HS and are using it again for college
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2023 22:37     Subject: Combining Multiple Undergrad Rankings To Get One! Interesting Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just ask your self if you were admitted to both Duke and Harvard, which one would you pick regardless of major? Is there really any exception in the answer? That tells you this ranking is worthless.


Everyone wouldn't automatically pick Harvard. Athletes choose Duke over Harvard all the time. That isn't just 1-2 students per year either.
Duke also has some impressive scholarships that lure students considering any other top school (Stanford or Harvard included).


+1 I think those Duke scholarships are probably the best outcome in all of college admissions. The top tier education without debt is just too good of a deal.