Anonymous
03/07/2023 13:09
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the percentage of families with a single mother?
That percentage is not sustainable. Father figures are important.
You see the effects on society today.
Don't reward single patenting. Staying together is sometimes difficult, but single parenting of close to 50% is not acceptable either. An abusive relationship is a different subject altogether.
But the outcomes are not as good as two parent families in the aggregate.
So I wouldn't cut out subsidies, but I would cut them back and make it less attractive.
How many absent father households are the choice of the mother raising the child(ren)? He is absent because of the father- whether that be choice, jail, disinterest, another family, etc. You are punishing women and children for the choices of the male. Super on brand for our culture but nonetheless deplorable. And two parents don't have to be married or live together to raise a child. Data must separate between single parent households with an involved and financially supportive co-parent (regardless of sex) and those that are single parent household by choice and those that are single parent households without an involved and supportive co-parent. These are three different types of issues and more than likely have different outcomes.
Why are women choosing to get pregnant with such irresponsible men? Perhaps our values are all wrong. Why not question our priorities?
Why exactly aren’t these valid questions?
Why ignore the source of the problem? sp
Because what, exactly, are you going to do about that on a societal level? Shoulda, coulda, woulda isn’t a solution.
Recognize that we currently subsidize those choices, and push for other incentives.
If a woman would rather raise a child alone than with the father, it’s because the father is repugnant.
Anonymous
03/07/2023 13:09
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
Women don't pick their partners.
Men just take any women they want and force themselves on them?
Anonymous
03/07/2023 13:08
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the percentage of families with a single mother?
That percentage is not sustainable. Father figures are important.
You see the effects on society today.
Don't reward single patenting. Staying together is sometimes difficult, but single parenting of close to 50% is not acceptable either. An abusive relationship is a different subject altogether.
But the outcomes are not as good as two parent families in the aggregate.
So I wouldn't cut out subsidies, but I would cut them back and make it less attractive.
How many absent father households are the choice of the mother raising the child(ren)? He is absent because of the father- whether that be choice, jail, disinterest, another family, etc. You are punishing women and children for the choices of the male. Super on brand for our culture but nonetheless deplorable. And two parents don't have to be married or live together to raise a child. Data must separate between single parent households with an involved and financially supportive co-parent (regardless of sex) and those that are single parent household by choice and those that are single parent households without an involved and supportive co-parent. These are three different types of issues and more than likely have different outcomes.
Why are women choosing to get pregnant with such irresponsible men? Perhaps our values are all wrong. Why not question our priorities?
Why exactly aren’t these valid questions?
Why ignore the source of the problem? sp
Because what, exactly, are you going to do about that on a societal level? Shoulda, coulda, woulda isn’t a solution.
Recognize that we currently subsidize those choices, and push for other incentives.
Tell us what “choices” we “subsidize.”
Keep in mind that all social welfare benefits in the U.S. pale in comparison to those available in Scandinavian countries.
Anonymous
03/07/2023 13:07
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
For every single mother, there’s a deadbeat father. The woman was the one who should be applauded for taking responsibility for the situation. I’m not sure if anti-abortionists would rather she had an abortion? Can’t win.
Anonymous
03/07/2023 13:07
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the percentage of families with a single mother?
That percentage is not sustainable. Father figures are important.
You see the effects on society today.
Don't reward single patenting. Staying together is sometimes difficult, but single parenting of close to 50% is not acceptable either. An abusive relationship is a different subject altogether.
But the outcomes are not as good as two parent families in the aggregate.
So I wouldn't cut out subsidies, but I would cut them back and make it less attractive.
How many absent father households are the choice of the mother raising the child(ren)? He is absent because of the father- whether that be choice, jail, disinterest, another family, etc. You are punishing women and children for the choices of the male. Super on brand for our culture but nonetheless deplorable. And two parents don't have to be married or live together to raise a child. Data must separate between single parent households with an involved and financially supportive co-parent (regardless of sex) and those that are single parent household by choice and those that are single parent households without an involved and supportive co-parent. These are three different types of issues and more than likely have different outcomes.
Why are women choosing to get pregnant with such irresponsible men? Perhaps our values are all wrong. Why not question our priorities?
Why exactly aren’t these valid questions?
Why ignore the source of the problem? sp
Because what, exactly, are you going to do about that on a societal level? Shoulda, coulda, woulda isn’t a solution.
Recognize that we currently subsidize those choices, and push for other incentives.
Anonymous
03/07/2023 13:06
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
How so? Because of the abortion rulings?
I will grant in cases of rape, but women still decide who they want to have sex with and control whether they use birth control or require it of their partner, no?
Yes. Do you live under a rock?
You didn't address the rest of the post. Women have other birth control options apart from abortion, both before and after sex.
Stop treating women like infants that can't make or own up to grown up choices.
Correct, women are adults who are capable of deciding whether or not they need an abortion. They are capable of making grown up choices. Glad we’re on the same page.
Women are the default choosers on the parenthood question. They are more than capable of choosing whether to abstain, or to use a condom, or have sex with that bum or use a Plan B or...have an abortion.
Yes, glad we're on the same page!
Access to all of that is restricted now in the US. What part of that do you not understand?
Women are not allowed to abstain, make partners use condoms or be more judicious about sexual partners now? Who knew?!?
It is impossible to force a partner to wear a condom, and why is it on women to “abstain”?
Anonymous
03/07/2023 13:04
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
How so? Because of the abortion rulings?
I will grant in cases of rape, but women still decide who they want to have sex with and control whether they use birth control or require it of their partner, no?
Yes. Do you live under a rock?
You didn't address the rest of the post. Women have other birth control options apart from abortion, both before and after sex.
Stop treating women like infants that can't make or own up to grown up choices.
Correct, women are adults who are capable of deciding whether or not they need an abortion. They are capable of making grown up choices. Glad we’re on the same page.
Women are the default choosers on the parenthood question. They are more than capable of choosing whether to abstain, or to use a condom, or have sex with that bum or use a Plan B or...have an abortion.
Yes, glad we're on the same page!
Access to all of that is restricted now in the US. What part of that do you not understand?
Women are not allowed to abstain, make partners use condoms or be more judicious about sexual partners now? Who knew?!?
Anonymous
03/07/2023 13:02
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
How so? Because of the abortion rulings?
I will grant in cases of rape, but women still decide who they want to have sex with and control whether they use birth control or require it of their partner, no?
Yes. Do you live under a rock?
You didn't address the rest of the post. Women have other birth control options apart from abortion, both before and after sex.
Stop treating women like infants that can't make or own up to grown up choices.
Correct, women are adults who are capable of deciding whether or not they need an abortion. They are capable of making grown up choices. Glad we’re on the same page.
Women are the default choosers on the parenthood question. They are more than capable of choosing whether to abstain, or to use a condom, or have sex with that bum or use a Plan B or...have an abortion.
Yes, glad we're on the same page!
Access to all of that is restricted now in the US. What part of that do you not understand?
Anonymous
03/07/2023 12:59
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Kids raised by single fathers leave kids raised by single mothers in the dust.
Anonymous
03/07/2023 12:56
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
How so? Because of the abortion rulings?
I will grant in cases of rape, but women still decide who they want to have sex with and control whether they use birth control or require it of their partner, no?
Yes. Do you live under a rock?
You didn't address the rest of the post. Women have other birth control options apart from abortion, both before and after sex.
Stop treating women like infants that can't make or own up to grown up choices.
Correct, women are adults who are capable of deciding whether or not they need an abortion. They are capable of making grown up choices. Glad we’re on the same page.
Women are the default choosers on the parenthood question. They are more than capable of choosing whether to abstain, or to use a condom, or have sex with that bum or use a Plan B or...have an abortion.
Yes, glad we're on the same page!
Anonymous
03/07/2023 12:48
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
How so? Because of the abortion rulings?
I will grant in cases of rape, but women still decide who they want to have sex with and control whether they use birth control or require it of their partner, no?
Yes. Do you live under a rock?
You didn't address the rest of the post. Women have other birth control options apart from abortion, both before and after sex.
Stop treating women like infants that can't make or own up to grown up choices.
Correct, women are adults who are capable of deciding whether or not they need an abortion. They are capable of making grown up choices. Glad we’re on the same page.
Anonymous
03/07/2023 12:47
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
How so? Because of the abortion rulings?
I will grant in cases of rape, but women still decide who they want to have sex with and control whether they use birth control or require it of their partner, no?
Yes. Do you live under a rock?
You didn't address the rest of the post. Women have other birth control options apart from abortion, both before and after sex.
Stop treating women like infants that can't make or own up to grown up choices.
No; many women are forced to have sex by their husbands.
Anonymous
03/07/2023 12:43
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
How so? Because of the abortion rulings?
I will grant in cases of rape, but women still decide who they want to have sex with and control whether they use birth control or require it of their partner, no?
Yes. Do you live under a rock?
You didn't address the rest of the post. Women have other birth control options apart from abortion, both before and after sex.
Stop treating women like infants that can't make or own up to grown up choices.
Anonymous
03/07/2023 12:37
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
How so? Because of the abortion rulings?
I will grant in cases of rape, but women still decide who they want to have sex with and control whether they use birth control or require it of their partner, no?
Yes. Do you live under a rock?
Anonymous
03/07/2023 12:31
Subject: Re:For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incentivize fatherhood.
Try to reform the winner-take-all dating economy (good luck).
Make fatherhood cool again (too many oafish goofballs on TV).
Reverse the decline of communities (very hard to do). Bring back God, churches and communities to try to hold crummy men more accountable.
Embrace stigma (not popular).
Embrace harems and alternative family structures.
Incentivize fatherhood?! Holy crap male privilege is mind blowing. Do we incentivize motherhood? No, women are default sole providers.
Women are also the default choosers on the parenthood question in the first place.
Not really anymore.
How so? Because of the abortion rulings?
I will grant in cases of rape, but women still decide who they want to have sex with and control whether they use birth control or require it of their partner, no?