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Anonymous wrote:As a former teacher, the big issue is just that teachers have no influence on how things get sorted out.

In elementary school, there are all kinds of transgressions that just get corrected and let go. We’ve all been hit by an upset kindergartener or threatened by a 3rd grader trying something out. That’s part of the job. The problem is there isn’t a good way to catch escalation and teachers’ judgments about who is really threatening aren’t respected. Two middle schoolers could threaten to rape me and one is a good kid who was upset or didn’t have a filter and was trying something they’ve heard, and one could be a very real threat from someone physically big enough to hurt me and I could be genuinely scared. The system is going to treat both the same.

You were a good teacher, PP! Thank you

I feel so sorry for any teacher who honestly believes that anyone who threatens to rape her, could be a “good kid who was upset, or didn’t have a filter”.

Are you FREGGIN kidding me???? Is this the crap they learned in college?

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Anonymous wrote:As a former teacher, the big issue is just that teachers have no influence on how things get sorted out.

In elementary school, there are all kinds of transgressions that just get corrected and let go. We’ve all been hit by an upset kindergartener or threatened by a 3rd grader trying something out. That’s part of the job. The problem is there isn’t a good way to catch escalation and teachers’ judgments about who is really threatening aren’t respected. Two middle schoolers could threaten to rape me and one is a good kid who was upset or didn’t have a filter and was trying something they’ve heard, and one could be a very real threat from someone physically big enough to hurt me and I could be genuinely scared. The system is going to treat both the same.

The problem is that teachers will often see the white high ses kid as the “good kid” and the black or brown kid as the “scary one”. This is exactly why the public has lost so much confidence in individual teacher judgements. Student discipline and consequences shouldn’t be based on whether a teacher feels “scared” or not.

Speak for yourself, bigot.

Anonymous wrote:As a former teacher, the big issue is just that teachers have no influence on how things get sorted out.

In elementary school, there are all kinds of transgressions that just get corrected and let go. We’ve all been hit by an upset kindergartener or threatened by a 3rd grader trying something out. That’s part of the job. The problem is there isn’t a good way to catch escalation and teachers’ judgments about who is really threatening aren’t respected. Two middle schoolers could threaten to rape me and one is a good kid who was upset or didn’t have a filter and was trying something they’ve heard, and one could be a very real threat from someone physically big enough to hurt me and I could be genuinely scared. The system is going to treat both the same.

The problem is that teachers will often see the white high ses kid as the “good kid” and the black or brown kid as the “scary one”. This is exactly why the public has lost so much confidence in individual teacher judgements. Student discipline and consequences shouldn’t be based on whether a teacher feels “scared” or not.

Anonymous wrote:As a former teacher, the big issue is just that teachers have no influence on how things get sorted out.

In elementary school, there are all kinds of transgressions that just get corrected and let go. We’ve all been hit by an upset kindergartener or threatened by a 3rd grader trying something out. That’s part of the job. The problem is there isn’t a good way to catch escalation and teachers’ judgments about who is really threatening aren’t respected. Two middle schoolers could threaten to rape me and one is a good kid who was upset or didn’t have a filter and was trying something they’ve heard, and one could be a very real threat from someone physically big enough to hurt me and I could be genuinely scared. The system is going to treat both the same.

You were a good teacher, PP! Thank you

Anonymous wrote:I feel so bad for public school teachers.

But they keep drinking the kool-aid, so it’ll keep getting worse for them and for the children.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think he would actually do it? Because I don’t think so.
That’s what HFA is: sometimes they don’t know what they are saying really.

I think he understood exactly what he was saying. Would he really do it? Hopefully not

I honestly don’t think so. Either he is bad at controlling his impulses (a typical kid could think that but not say it out loud) or he doesn’t quite understand the seriousness of saying it out loud.
If he hasn’t been violent, he needs a really good talk about how these things are really too serious to say out loud. We all have horrible thoughts, we just learned to control them (some people don’t even admit to themselves they have thoughts and feelings that are not acceptable).

It is not typical to even think about raping someone.

First, you probably aren’t a man or a woman with those fantasies. Second, the student probably doesn’t really know what he is talking about.

Right, and u think most people typically don't have those fantasies. Particularly 12 year olds.

He doesn’t know what he is saying. Like a nerd saying “I’ll beat the crap out of you”.

Do you not see the difference between saying that to a peer and saying it to a teacher?

He needs consequences so he actually learns common sense and how to function as a member of society. Teachers shouldn't be punished for you lax parenting.

Anonymous wrote:I live in a bubble. How would he even know about rape?!?

At TWELVE? He’s not two. Come on.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think he would actually do it? Because I don’t think so.
That’s what HFA is: sometimes they don’t know what they are saying really.

I think he understood exactly what he was saying. Would he really do it? Hopefully not

I honestly don’t think so. Either he is bad at controlling his impulses (a typical kid could think that but not say it out loud) or he doesn’t quite understand the seriousness of saying it out loud.
If he hasn’t been violent, he needs a really good talk about how these things are really too serious to say out loud. We all have horrible thoughts, we just learned to control them (some people don’t even admit to themselves they have thoughts and feelings that are not acceptable).

It is not typical to even think about raping someone.

First, you probably aren’t a man or a woman with those fantasies. Second, the student probably doesn’t really know what he is talking about.

Right, and u think most people typically don't have those fantasies. Particularly 12 year olds.

He doesn’t know what he is saying. Like a nerd saying “I’ll beat the crap out of you”.

You aren’t his psychiatrist. You have no idea whatsoever whether he knew what he was saying or not.

One doesn’t need to be his psychiatrist to know that 12 yo kids don’t mean it in an adult sense

Wrong.

I feel so bad for public school teachers.

Anonymous wrote:Today a teacher I work with got into an altercation with a kid in n the hallway and the kid threatened to hold her down and rape her. Kid got one day’s suspension. He has high functioning autism, but he is also in the gifted program and takes all Gen Ed classes.
This kind of B.S. seriously makes me want to leave the profession.

Fact is, the teacher was put on notice. Does a rape victim feel better if her racist was having a mental episode? Did she even make a written report? If someone in your neighborhood threatened to rape you, you get a protection order from the court.

You all know your administrators and elected school board will do absolutely nothing to protect you from the violent thugs who get zero effective consequences. Your working environment is a potential war zone in a split second. Did you sign up for this? I think not. Yet, you keep voting for more of the same insanity. Please explain.

You all are mentally ill to put up with this. Get the hell out of that hell hole while you can still walk on your own two legs. Haven’t you seen the evidence of the teacher who was recently nearly beaten to death? The Police Chief said she’s lucky to be alive. Only two ribs were broken. Maybe you’re thinking that school was in a bad area or something. Well, it wasn’t. I happen to know exactly where it is.

Does anyone know how many assaults there are on public school property every day? Or what, if anything happened to the perpetrator? Does anyone really care enough to do something about it?

I heard a middle school kid say something about rape recently in an odd setting. It sounded like he was trying to put someone and used the word weirdly. I wonder if it’s a TikTok thing right now?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think he would actually do it? Because I don’t think so.
That’s what HFA is: sometimes they don’t know what they are saying really.

I think he understood exactly what he was saying. Would he really do it? Hopefully not

I honestly don’t think so. Either he is bad at controlling his impulses (a typical kid could think that but not say it out loud) or he doesn’t quite understand the seriousness of saying it out loud.
If he hasn’t been violent, he needs a really good talk about how these things are really too serious to say out loud. We all have horrible thoughts, we just learned to control them (some people don’t even admit to themselves they have thoughts and feelings that are not acceptable).

It is not typical to even think about raping someone.

This.

HFA lack a filter. He understood, he just didn’t stop himself from saying it aloud.

These responses are WILD. I have been teaching for 15 years. I have taught 1-5 HFA students every year each of those years. Never, ever would this be considered anything but alarming behavior. Does that mean the kid is a monster? Not. But this is very very serious and should be treated as such.

Yikes, people.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t school kick him out?

Schools don't even expel violent children who batter others.

Or shoot teachers like on VA beach

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t school kick him out?

Schools don't even expel violent children who batter others.

Anonymous wrote:I had to set a mental line in the sand this year: if I am directly threatened or if there is ever a gun in my school, I’m out, even though I’m within ten years of retirement. I’d rather work an extra ten or fifteen years in another field than continue to work as an educator in those conditions.

I’m expecting this is a when it happens and not an if it happens situation.

+1

I’m farther out from retirement but set some boundaries and breaking points this year. After Uvalde and the shooting in Virginia I fully realized that no one cares about my safety at all. I think I would just call the police and quit on the spot if I were concerned about a kid because no authorities (admin, police, school board) gives a F about me in the classroom.