Gen Xer here: on the one hand, I agree with you, the all-too-common Millenial sense of entitlement is annoying. On the other, it is in large part a rational response to incentives. It’s become all too clear that employers have zero loyalty to their work force, so it’s not reasonable to expect much loyalty in return. A sad equilibrium that I don’t think can be fixed.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh dear god, OP. You'll manage for one whole week without two people. Can you imagine your boss telling you that you can't go to your kid's graduation? That's pretty heartless.

Signed, Gen X who's sick of everyone's sh*t

This. Another Gen X, also sick af of everyone.

Gen X fed manager here, in 100% agreement. FFS, people should be able to attend the life milestones of their loved ones. And they are entitled to their leave, it is compensation just like salary. I'm sure everyone in the office will survive a busy week in May.

If you aren't such a PITA about taking EARNED time off, people will talk to you about their plans in advance instead of trying to make them a fait accompli. This is an environment you've created.

Is OP a middle manager or a warden?

I’ve never once needed to get specific dates approved by a manager before. If I have the days I take them. Unless these are hospital shift workers or something I fail to see why you are rejecting those dates.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the whole thing about ho employees use their PTO…who are you to determine how they use their time off, OP? If they have the time accrued, why do you care? This is some micro managing BS.

How*

I don’t understand the whole thing about ho employees use their PTO…who are you to determine how they use their time off, OP? If they have the time accrued, why do you care? This is some micro managing BS.

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone need a week off to attend a wedding or graduation?

I only took 3 days off work for my own wedding (wedding was on a Saturday; I took off Thursday, Fri, and Monday)

-also a millennial

Are you also one of those people who brags about returning to work 4 weeks postpartum?

You are making things worse for your coworkers, please stop.

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Anonymous wrote:A millennial has a son in high school?

Do you suck at math? Oldest millennials were born in 1981. Do the math.

DCUM cannot fathom that anyone has had a child prior to the age of 35.

You can step in and help. Really, you are going to refuse someone going to their child's graduation?

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Anonymous wrote:May is pretty far away. Why can't you manage the work of two people off at once? I just really don't see this as a big deal. Does everyone have to work Christmas eve too? Does only one get it off?

Agreed. Unless you’re like, firing missiles in Ukraine, there’s no reason you can’t plan over 3 months for two people to be gone for 5 days.

Are you suggesting OP is similar to Putin? Cuz it sounds like OP is similar to Putin.

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone need a week off to attend a wedding or graduation?

I only took 3 days off work for my own wedding (wedding was on a Saturday; I took off Thursday, Fri, and Monday)

-also a millennial

I feel so sorry for you.

Why would anyone need a week off to attend a wedding or graduation?

I only took 3 days off work for my own wedding (wedding was on a Saturday; I took off Thursday, Fri, and Monday)

-also a millennial

This is why the entire capitalist system is evil. These middle managers are like the overseers on a plantation, convinced that the only way to win is to continue doing the bidding of the master and whip the slaves harder, convinced of their own righteousness and superiority, when really, the plantation owner holds them in equally low regard and keeps the vast majority of the profits of overseer’s labor and everything from
The slaves. Yet, here DCUM folks come in, cheering for the plantation owners.

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Anonymous wrote:Op you suck.

It’s not ‘asking’ to take time off, they’re not your slaves. They are telling you they will be gone. Stop being a jerk.

NP. That’s not accurate. Vacation requests need to be approved. You don’t “tell” anyone you’ll be gone…despite how much you wish you could. When you are a partner, principal or owner, you can “tell.” Until then you ask, like everyone else.

+1. Some of you clearly don’t work in the private sector. I’ve never had a job where I didn’t have to seek manager’s approval to take time off.

I work in the private sector at a director level. I tell my leadership when I will be out, and my team tells me when they will be out. If multiple people are out at the same time, we work together to coordinate coverage / work ahead / adjust accordingly. People have earned their PTO and they should be able to use it for the things that are important to them.

You might be the only competent director here. I’m a VP at A f100 and this is how I expect everyone to operate. I even allow people to get days ‘advanced’ if they’re typically hard workers. My team maintains talent because I’m not in charge of what’s important to them.


Everyone else in this thread, Get a clue.

THIS is how I manage as well.

Anonymous wrote:A millennial has a son in high school?

Do you suck at math? Oldest millennials were born in 1981. Do the math.