Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:59     Subject: Re:Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Police can’t summarily execute someone for being a repeat shoplifter or a general nuisance, regardless of where they live. We need to understand if the man was also carrying, fighting with the officers, or actively resisting arrest.


Criminals actively resist arres in many other countries and are not shot and killed for it--rather, they are just arrested. The US needs a different way to train police. They're trained in quasi military bootcamp style whereas in many European countries they go through YEARS of training in conflict deescalation, etc.


In another countries they are arrested and prosecuted. In Fairfax county ran by democrat commonwealth attorney, they released back to the streets. In another states they are glorified and made a heroes, like Floyd.


Even your poor writing skills show your lack of intellectual capacity, no need to point out the fallacy of what you said. Please don't bother to come back and whine about English not being your first language. It's not mine either, hence my post about European countries.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:57     Subject: Re:Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Police can’t summarily execute someone for being a repeat shoplifter or a general nuisance, regardless of where they live. We need to understand if the man was also carrying, fighting with the officers, or actively resisting arrest.


Criminals actively resist arres in many other countries and are not shot and killed for it--rather, they are just arrested. The US needs a different way to train police. They're trained in quasi military bootcamp style whereas in many European countries they go through YEARS of training in conflict deescalation, etc.


I agree that police are over militarized but the comparison to Europe misses the point that most Europeans are unarmed. WE have a public that is armed to the teeth. So what do you do when you have an armed assailant who is an immediate threat to the general public?
There is a difference between the police violence of unarmed individuals who are, in many cases, pulled over for minor, if not made up, traffic stops and executed. Or individuals who are clearly in mental health crises. Save your energy defending those guys. This guy shot in Tysons was clearly in the middle of a crime. He's not the one who deserved saving.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:56     Subject: Re:Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Police can’t summarily execute someone for being a repeat shoplifter or a general nuisance, regardless of where they live. We need to understand if the man was also carrying, fighting with the officers, or actively resisting arrest.


Criminals actively resist arres in many other countries and are not shot and killed for it--rather, they are just arrested. The US needs a different way to train police. They're trained in quasi military bootcamp style whereas in many European countries they go through YEARS of training in conflict deescalation, etc.


In another countries they are arrested and prosecuted. In Fairfax county ran by democrat commonwealth attorney, they released back to the streets. In another states they are glorified and made a heroes, like Floyd.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:53     Subject: Re:Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:Police can’t summarily execute someone for being a repeat shoplifter or a general nuisance, regardless of where they live. We need to understand if the man was also carrying, fighting with the officers, or actively resisting arrest.


Criminals actively resist arres in many other countries and are not shot and killed for it--rather, they are just arrested. The US needs a different way to train police. They're trained in quasi military bootcamp style whereas in many European countries they go through YEARS of training in conflict deescalation, etc.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:51     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
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Anonymous wrote:It was in the woods across the street from Bloomingdales/the old LL Bean. Were they chasing him?


What woods??


Where are their woods in Tysons???


I literally posted a pic, smartbutt.


NP and I LOVED your caption 'these are woods'. Made me literally LOL.



Me too, and I was the original “woods??” poster. Where I come from, those are just some trees but I get it. Thank you.

When shoplifting becomes a death sentence without a trial, I fear we’ve lost America. I’m tired of the theft and violence too, but this is not ok.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:50     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Ok so just theft? They absolutely had to hunt him down and kill him?


At this point, good. Tysons has been plagued with shootings, thefts, fights, etc. for the past 2 years. I hope this incident will deter the criminals who are now coming in droves to commit acts of violence at the mall. I go there with my family. I will not mourn the loss of another criminal who tried to rob the mall and put innocent lives in danger. He made his choice. And it turned out to be a very bad one.


I get that you're concerned about safety. But do you understand that shoplifting shouldn't result in an execution?


Being shot while resisting arrest is not “an execution.” Committing crimes and fleeing from the police is an inherently risky thing to do, as in the chaos of such events it’s quite foreseeable that the police can believe themselves threatened and need to take action. Obviously what the bodycam footage shows is important here.


Yes, that pretty much is.


~reasoning needed~ If you can’t see the difference between killing someone in cold blood and killing someone in the context of a struggle caused by the decedent’s own wrongful conduct, there is no helping you. I wouldn’t even bother to respond, except this view is quite dangerous and is causing significant problems. It’s a fully generalized argument against policing: because it’s too dangerous for the criminals, the cops shouldn’t pursue suspects or try to subdue those resisting arrest. The implication of this is that people just need to accept a vastly higher property crime rate than they are comfortable with. That won’t work and it won’t end well.


+1. A known perp to police evading arrest after committing multiple crimes. I have no tears for him. And particularly after what happened yesterday in Orlando with the murder of a 9 year old, two journalists and a 20 year old woman, I would hope that police continue to step up the presence at Tysons. The violent crimes in this country have gotten out of hand.


Descano is not going to prosecute anyone, that is why police is taking it to their hands.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:48     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok so just theft? They absolutely had to hunt him down and kill him?


At this point, good. Tysons has been plagued with shootings, thefts, fights, etc. for the past 2 years. I hope this incident will deter the criminals who are now coming in droves to commit acts of violence at the mall. I go there with my family. I will not mourn the loss of another criminal who tried to rob the mall and put innocent lives in danger. He made his choice. And it turned out to be a very bad one.


I get that you're concerned about safety. But do you understand that shoplifting shouldn't result in an execution?


Being shot while resisting arrest is not “an execution.” Committing crimes and fleeing from the police is an inherently risky thing to do, as in the chaos of such events it’s quite foreseeable that the police can believe themselves threatened and need to take action. Obviously what the bodycam footage shows is important here.


Yes, that pretty much is.


~reasoning needed~ If you can’t see the difference between killing someone in cold blood and killing someone in the context of a struggle caused by the decedent’s own wrongful conduct, there is no helping you. I wouldn’t even bother to respond, except this view is quite dangerous and is causing significant problems. It’s a fully generalized argument against policing: because it’s too dangerous for the criminals, the cops shouldn’t pursue suspects or try to subdue those resisting arrest. The implication of this is that people just need to accept a vastly higher property crime rate than they are comfortable with. That won’t work and it won’t end well.


+1. A known perp to police evading arrest after committing multiple crimes. I have no tears for him. And particularly after what happened yesterday in Orlando with the murder of a 9 year old, two journalists and a 20 year old woman, I would hope that police continue to step up the presence at Tysons. The violent crimes in this country have gotten out of hand.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:31     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks to who poster the picture and identified the woods. Those ARE woods. The news articles CALL it woods.

WHY do you all have to pick a stupid fight about ever.little.thing? You all are unbearable.


OT, but I am almost 50 and grew up in this area. They definitely USED to be woods and thus I can see that people would still call them that.



Let's call it a wooded area and be done with it.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:18     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was in the woods across the street from Bloomingdales/the old LL Bean. Were they chasing him?


What woods??


Where are their woods in Tysons???


I literally posted a pic, smartbutt.


NP and I LOVED your caption 'these are woods'. Made me literally LOL.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:15     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok so just theft? They absolutely had to hunt him down and kill him?


At this point, good. Tysons has been plagued with shootings, thefts, fights, etc. for the past 2 years. I hope this incident will deter the criminals who are now coming in droves to commit acts of violence at the mall. I go there with my family. I will not mourn the loss of another criminal who tried to rob the mall and put innocent lives in danger. He made his choice. And it turned out to be a very bad one.


I get that you're concerned about safety. But do you understand that shoplifting shouldn't result in an execution?


Being shot while resisting arrest is not “an execution.” Committing crimes and fleeing from the police is an inherently risky thing to do, as in the chaos of such events it’s quite foreseeable that the police can believe themselves threatened and need to take action. Obviously what the bodycam footage shows is important here.


Yes, that pretty much is.


~reasoning needed~ If you can’t see the difference between killing someone in cold blood and killing someone in the context of a struggle caused by the decedent’s own wrongful conduct, there is no helping you. I wouldn’t even bother to respond, except this view is quite dangerous and is causing significant problems. It’s a fully generalized argument against policing: because it’s too dangerous for the criminals, the cops shouldn’t pursue suspects or try to subdue those resisting arrest. The implication of this is that people just need to accept a vastly higher property crime rate than they are comfortable with. That won’t work and it won’t end well.


I agree that it's a huge problem. I don't think we agree though what the problem is.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:03     Subject: Re:Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Police can’t summarily execute someone for being a repeat shoplifter or a general nuisance, regardless of where they live. We need to understand if the man was also carrying, fighting with the officers, or actively resisting arrest.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 07:53     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok so just theft? They absolutely had to hunt him down and kill him?


At this point, good. Tysons has been plagued with shootings, thefts, fights, etc. for the past 2 years. I hope this incident will deter the criminals who are now coming in droves to commit acts of violence at the mall. I go there with my family. I will not mourn the loss of another criminal who tried to rob the mall and put innocent lives in danger. He made his choice. And it turned out to be a very bad one.


I get that you're concerned about safety. But do you understand that shoplifting shouldn't result in an execution?


Being shot while resisting arrest is not “an execution.” Committing crimes and fleeing from the police is an inherently risky thing to do, as in the chaos of such events it’s quite foreseeable that the police can believe themselves threatened and need to take action. Obviously what the bodycam footage shows is important here.


Yes, that pretty much is.


~reasoning needed~ If you can’t see the difference between killing someone in cold blood and killing someone in the context of a struggle caused by the decedent’s own wrongful conduct, there is no helping you. I wouldn’t even bother to respond, except this view is quite dangerous and is causing significant problems. It’s a fully generalized argument against policing: because it’s too dangerous for the criminals, the cops shouldn’t pursue suspects or try to subdue those resisting arrest. The implication of this is that people just need to accept a vastly higher property crime rate than they are comfortable with. That won’t work and it won’t end well.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 07:50     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:Wow, the old saying "VA don't play" reaches new heights.

Hope the facts can be disclosed soon.


Maybe criminals will think twice before coming to va now. The suspect wa well known to law enforcement.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 07:47     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:I live near Tysons. The cop made the right decision.


Big time. The guy was described as well known to officers. Hope this acts as a deterrent.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 07:46     Subject: Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok so just theft? They absolutely had to hunt him down and kill him?


At this point, good. Tysons has been plagued with shootings, thefts, fights, etc. for the past 2 years. I hope this incident will deter the criminals who are now coming in droves to commit acts of violence at the mall. I go there with my family. I will not mourn the loss of another criminal who tried to rob the mall and put innocent lives in danger. He made his choice. And it turned out to be a very bad one.


I get that you're concerned about safety. But do you understand that shoplifting shouldn't result in an execution?


Being shot while resisting arrest is not “an execution.” Committing crimes and fleeing from the police is an inherently risky thing to do, as in the chaos of such events it’s quite foreseeable that the police can believe themselves threatened and need to take action. Obviously what the bodycam footage shows is important here.


Yes, that pretty much is.