PROUD
My paying for college is not conditional upon an outcome.
Their life. Not mine.
We need more teachers, with the best education, who are motivated to do this important work.
Finland is cited as a place where the entry bar for an elementary school teacher is set very very high, I like this approach.
I would be thrilled that my "child" found a career and a life that made them happy.
And that changed the lives of their students, just as the truly wonderful elementary school teachers I was so fortunate to have, changed mine.

It's usually the people with easy useless majors that mention 'experience'

You can have much better experience with $320K like travelling the world.

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Anonymous wrote:The statute of the schools does not relate ar all to what fiend your child pursues.

Your child is not an investment opportunity.

They are an individual, with values, passions, goals.

They are also not robots you can program.

Stop being self-centered and materialistic. Support the person you created. Love is unconditional.

If they want to pursue their individual passion to be a teacher, great, they can do that at an affordable state school. If I am paying for an expensive education then I get some input into how it will be used. Unconditional love does not mean an unconditional obligation to pay for whatever they want to do.

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Anonymous wrote:The statute of the schools does not relate ar all to what fiend your child pursues.

Your child is not an investment opportunity.

They are an individual, with values, passions, goals.

They are also not robots you can program.

Stop being self-centered and materialistic. Support the person you created. Love is unconditional.

For most people, college is an investment opportunity. That’s why poorer kids take out loans to go, not for “the experience.”

As a teacher, yes I would be disappointed.

I know someone who paid full price for undergrad and grad school, then became a car mechanic. His house was used as location for some scenes in a Batman movie.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’ve told my own children to pick any field other than education. I work way, way too hard for very little money and respect. I want better for them.

It’s a shame because I think teaching is among the most honorable of professions.

Respect is earned. If you’re not getting respect, do better.

I’m a bit confused. I teach an AP class and lead many students to a 5. How should I “do better”? These are students who come to me below grade-level, too. (Before you pull some DCUM “you closed schools during Covid” nonsense, know that I worked in-person throughout.)

I work a ton of hours AND produce tremendous results. What else would you like me to do in order to gain your respect?

Are you the one whining about lack of respect? If so then it’s up to you to determine how to do better.

Writ large, it is difficult to respect teachers when the metrics of learning show that kids have not learned and thus teachers have not done their job. And even so the teachers keep demanding raises every year that they’d never get in the private sector. 🙄

I’m the PP. Your response is absurd. Clearly you have no idea (or respect for) the many variables that affect a student’s ability to learn. Teachers make progress in spite of these variables (home conditions, learning differences, lack of resources, etc.). And “whining”? Good luck pointing out where I’ve “whined.”

Contribute to this conversation once you’ve learned a bit more about this topic.

Anonymous wrote:The statute of the schools does not relate ar all to what fiend your child pursues.

Your child is not an investment opportunity.

They are an individual, with values, passions, goals.

They are also not robots you can program.

Stop being self-centered and materialistic. Support the person you created. Love is unconditional.

If they want to pursue their individual passion to be a teacher, great, they can do that at an affordable state school. If I am paying for an expensive education then I get some input into how it will be used. Unconditional love does not mean an unconditional obligation to pay for whatever they want to do.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’ve told my own children to pick any field other than education. I work way, way too hard for very little money and respect. I want better for them.

It’s a shame because I think teaching is among the most honorable of professions.

Respect is earned. If you’re not getting respect, do better.

I’m a bit confused. I teach an AP class and lead many students to a 5. How should I “do better”? These are students who come to me below grade-level, too. (Before you pull some DCUM “you closed schools during Covid” nonsense, know that I worked in-person throughout.)

I work a ton of hours AND produce tremendous results. What else would you like me to do in order to gain your respect?

Are you the one whining about lack of respect? If so then it’s up to you to determine how to do better.

Writ large, it is difficult to respect teachers when the metrics of learning show that kids have not learned and thus teachers have not done their job. And even so the teachers keep demanding raises every year that they’d never get in the private sector. 🙄

Anonymous wrote:My mother (a teacher) said I couldn't be a teacher if she paid for an elite school. She didn't want me to be a teacher at all, having been one herself.

same

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Anonymous wrote:I had a bunch of friends from MIT do Teach for America. I thought about it but went to grad school instead. One friend is an elementary school teacher, but isn't that wealth? Do whatever you want. Doesnt matter, you have money.

For a year or two?

No her career is elementary school teacher

Almost all parents want kids to become surgeon, cardiologist, hedge fund manager, actuary, tech guru etc but no sensible parent wants them to be unhappy. If its making their kid happy, they don't regret it. If their kid is unhappily trapped in a low paying job then they feel frustrated. I think those are sort of two different things.

Anonymous wrote:I would not be happy. We are full pay at an Ivy and my daughter knows she can’t do something like music — which May it may not pay well. She told her friend one time that she needed to do something because of the sacrifices we have made for her education. We are not rich. One income for the most part but saved like crazy!

You sound like an absolute psycho. Do you realize that your kid (an adult) will suffer in the long run from your micromanaging?

No. Waste of money.

I would be proud. What matters more for society than the way our children are educated?

Reflect on your values OP.