Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 17:06     Subject: Re:Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

But I was told in another thread that living in the city instead of moving to the suburbs once I had kids was childish, because cities are crime-ridden and not child friendly, and the suburbs are heaven.

Are you telling me... that was wrong?
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 17:05     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when people have no hope. The middle class has been greatly squeezesd, and the lower class has no hope to move up. So, drugs and violence continue to grow.

When the middle class is strong, and the lower class knows they can get a great education and move up in status, hope is present, and drugs and violence decrease.

We need a wealth tax, we need giant corporations with record profits and share buybacks to pay their fair share in taxes (in some cases, they haven't paid ANY taxes), and we need to support those who need help, so they can move up, and out of the lower class


Or just put criminals in jail. The rest of us are doing fine.


It seems that you should move into a gated community where you will be surrounded by others “doing fine” and protected by private security, since you don’t seem to be comprehending that you live out in the world with poor people who are getting increasingly agitated.


DP here.

What do you suggest? The person you’re responding to clearly thinks criminals should be held accountable for their actions. Do you disagree?


There are two very polarized groups right now when it comes to criminal justice. The far left thinks criminals are victims of society, systemic racism, poverty, and other negative factors. A lot of that is true. The far right wants law breaker in jail for the maximum amount of time, fueled by a deep need for retribution rather than for public safety. And removing law breakers from society makes society safer.

But neither is a sustainable path. Right now the far left is winning and crime is increasing. The people who suffer the increased violence are communities of color, lower income individuals, and other at-risk individuals. Who did that special needs bus driver molest? When the far right "wins," outrageous numbers of people are held in prison and their families and communities suffer their absence as well.

A reasoned, middle-of-the-road approach -- clear consequences for breaking the law, appropriate to the crime, which also increasing governmental services for non-crime societal ills like homelessness/mental health/substance abuse -- would be more effective.

We are a much too polarized society to be effective anymore.


The far left is winning and we see who suffers the most as a result.

The only answer: more of the same but even more and harder.


What does the far left have to do with rising crime?

Are you that stupid?

Your boy did this your boy's policies did this.

Who stiffed every single police department in the US that they did a rally in that city? Come on you know the answer it was the Republcian party with Trump. Do you know how many millions of $ police departments have to pay now that has to be made up by taxpayers?

Not to mention every single Republican MAGA JERK VOTES AGAINST ANYTHING TO HELP OUR VETERANS. They voted no!





Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 17:02     Subject: Re:Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Girl Scouts robbed outside a grocery store in Rockville. See, crime doesn't happen only in Silver Spring!

https://mocoshow.com/blog/girl-scouts-robbed-of-cookie-money-in-front-of-grocery-store/
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 17:01     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Just drive a stick shift
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 16:53     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Nothing will happen until A Somebody gets jacked.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 15:09     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:Another attempted carjacking at Thayer Ave Safeway. Perp used a knife..

People in the community can no longer go to the grocery store without being terrorized.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/silver-spring/attempted-carjacking-happens-in-downtown-silver-spring-just-hours-after-safety-announcement/65-b09d90af-d705-4401-beeb-b9e9bc489774

"I could see him kind of fumbling. I said you know it's a stick right? He kind of cursed and jumped out of the car and ran away," said John.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 10:48     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:Another attempted carjacking at Thayer Ave Safeway. Perp used a knife..

People in the community can no longer go to the grocery store without being terrorized.

That Safeway is unsafe.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 10:39     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Another attempted carjacking at Thayer Ave Safeway. Perp used a knife..

People in the community can no longer go to the grocery store without being terrorized.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2023 10:47     Subject: Re:Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:And someone tried to tell me those new Walter Reed townhouses are in a good neighborhood...they are the center of this.


Ah yes, the criminals are taking the stolen cars directly back to their $1M+ homes in Shepherd Park and Takoma…lol
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2023 21:55     Subject: Re:Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:And someone tried to tell me those new Walter Reed townhouses are in a good neighborhood...they are the center of this.

They do have a Whole Foods so it’s not a total loss.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2023 21:36     Subject: Re:Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:And someone tried to tell me those new Walter Reed townhouses are in a good neighborhood...they are the center of this.


Lol. Of course a real estate agent will tell you that. They forgot to mention “wear Kevlar.”
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2023 21:33     Subject: Re:Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

And someone tried to tell me those new Walter Reed townhouses are in a good neighborhood...they are the center of this.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2023 21:32     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when people have no hope. The middle class has been greatly squeezesd, and the lower class has no hope to move up. So, drugs and violence continue to grow.

When the middle class is strong, and the lower class knows they can get a great education and move up in status, hope is present, and drugs and violence decrease.

We need a wealth tax, we need giant corporations with record profits and share buybacks to pay their fair share in taxes (in some cases, they haven't paid ANY taxes), and we need to support those who need help, so they can move up, and out of the lower class


Or just put criminals in jail. The rest of us are doing fine.


It seems that you should move into a gated community where you will be surrounded by others “doing fine” and protected by private security, since you don’t seem to be comprehending that you live out in the world with poor people who are getting increasingly agitated.



So you’re ok with the idea that only rich people deserve to be safe? Poor minorities just have to live with violent crime like carjackings?
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2023 21:28     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A friend recently filed a police report for an attempted car theft. The officer viewed the Ring footage and confirmed that the group had triggered many police reports the night before. The officer told my friend that the group was eventually pursued by MoCo police but that the police had to stop at the DC line. DC doesn't let MoCo police pursue suspects in DC. Does anyone know if this is a real rule?


Just asked an officer. Can only cross a border for a violent felony.


This seems to be a huge problem. At a Safe Silver Spring meeting the other night, the Commander was asked how they work with DC police on these issues, and he basically said they don't. Well he said something about sometimes using their helicopter... We live a mile from the DC border and this really irritates me. I have to put up with carjackings and whatever else because the criminals can just pop over the DC line and that's the end of it?

The criminals are not just “popping over” to DC. They are going home.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2023 21:23     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when people have no hope. The middle class has been greatly squeezesd, and the lower class has no hope to move up. So, drugs and violence continue to grow.

When the middle class is strong, and the lower class knows they can get a great education and move up in status, hope is present, and drugs and violence decrease.

We need a wealth tax, we need giant corporations with record profits and share buybacks to pay their fair share in taxes (in some cases, they haven't paid ANY taxes), and we need to support those who need help, so they can move up, and out of the lower class


Or just put criminals in jail. The rest of us are doing fine.


It seems that you should move into a gated community where you will be surrounded by others “doing fine” and protected by private security, since you don’t seem to be comprehending that you live out in the world with poor people who are getting increasingly agitated.


DP here.

What do you suggest? The person you’re responding to clearly thinks criminals should be held accountable for their actions. Do you disagree?


There are two very polarized groups right now when it comes to criminal justice. The far left thinks criminals are victims of society, systemic racism, poverty, and other negative factors. A lot of that is true. The far right wants law breaker in jail for the maximum amount of time, fueled by a deep need for retribution rather than for public safety. And removing law breakers from society makes society safer.

But neither is a sustainable path. Right now the far left is winning and crime is increasing. The people who suffer the increased violence are communities of color, lower income individuals, and other at-risk individuals. Who did that special needs bus driver molest? When the far right "wins," outrageous numbers of people are held in prison and their families and communities suffer their absence as well.

A reasoned, middle-of-the-road approach -- clear consequences for breaking the law, appropriate to the crime, which also increasing governmental services for non-crime societal ills like homelessness/mental health/substance abuse -- would be more effective.

We are a much too polarized society to be effective anymore.


The far left is winning and we see who suffers the most as a result.

The only answer: more of the same but even more and harder.