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Anonymous wrote:There is a chasm of difference between non emergency number and calling the district commander personally.

One is normal (although I’d personally just change my tire and/or call AAA). The other is the very definition of using her position for a favor. And the fact that she is both so anti police vocally and literally tweeted two days ago that they should not be involved in traffic stops- makes her a hypocrite. This isn’t complicated.

It speaks volumes about the people who say this isn’t a story or there is nothing to talk about here. Of course there is.

The difference is that they are both non-emergency numbers? Huh?

DP. I appreciate that you are trying to defend someone you like. We all do that. Sometimes, however, people make lapses in judgment. She made a lapse in judgment, one she just apologized for on social media. Perhaps that apology came from pressure and criticism, but she still made it. Clearly she also sees that what she did might have crossed an ethical line since she alerted the ethics board.

If she can see the flaw in her actions that night, perhaps you (as her supporter) can do the same.

Anonymous wrote:There is a chasm of difference between non emergency number and calling the district commander personally.

One is normal (although I’d personally just change my tire and/or call AAA). The other is the very definition of using her position for a favor. And the fact that she is both so anti police vocally and literally tweeted two days ago that they should not be involved in traffic stops- makes her a hypocrite. This isn’t complicated.

It speaks volumes about the people who say this isn’t a story or there is nothing to talk about here. Of course there is.

The difference is that they are both non-emergency numbers? Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her political positions but to say she asked police to change her tire is dumb. She called AAA and then made the stupid decision to call the District Commander instead of the non emergency number to let them know her car was in the middle of the road. Makes sense to let the people currently in charge of traffic enforcement and safety of a traffic safety issue. If thus function was transferred to another department then she would have called them.

Who's saying she asked the police to change her tire? Do you agree her behavior was reprehensible or not?

No, I don't agree. I think it was dumb to call the District Commander, but it was an error in judgment.

Anyone familiar with the FOP knows they are completely full of it and desperately want to get her voted out. If anything I think the police are abusing their powers for political gain.

Again- pretend it was anyone other than the most left member of the county council here. Literally any other elected official. Take the cheerleader hat off, and use your eyes.

It has to be a member of her team or her family writing these minimizing replies. Only they could pretend to be so obtuse as
to not see the issue here or the irony of the situation. It’s very amusing.

No one is asking that she be charged with a crime. I even agree with a lot of her political views, but wow.

Nope. I actually think as far as Mink's behavior goes it's not s good look that she thought calling the District Commander was the right way to go. She is a county leader and doesn't have a good understanding of how police and first responders work. I also think, as someone supportive of police reform, that it is important to be gracious towards first responders even when the FOP is being ...the FOP, and her Twitter post doesn't show any graciousness towards the people that helped her. But the specific criticisms of her being laid out in this thread strike me as pretty ridiculous. If the only way your brain can process that is to assume I'm a member of her team, so be it, in that case, y'all are a bunch of FOP members trying to discredit someone who wants to reduce your department's budget.

This discussion has been about her character. Her policies are a whole other subject.


If you are comfortable with her, then more power to you. Good luck with that.

And what do you know of her character?

DP. I know that she's an entitled hypocrite and that's all I need to know.

Based on what exactly? The fact you don’t believe her? Sounds like a you problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I see she updated her statement to thank the officers. Glad to see that.

Where do you see that?

She reposted her statement on social media with a different final paragraph.

Anonymous wrote:I see she updated her statement to thank the officers. Glad to see that.

Where do you see that?

I see she updated her statement to thank the officers. Glad to see that.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw I estimate there are approximately two DCUM posters that live in Mink's district. The rest of you have no power to vote her out.

Who wants to vote her out? They might replace her with someone effective. Besides, it’s too
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Very few people in Mink's district for sure. You are all fooling yourselves in thinking this "scandal" means anything at all.

DP here.

While this isn’t a “scandal,” it does confirm my concerns about Mink: I question her judgment. This is a terribly bad look for her. She has been very vocal recently about MCPD. To use them in this capacity after calling for less police presence in the county? It’s seriously hypocritical. I’m not impressed at all.

And no, I have no connection to the FOP.

I actually think it's quite ridiculous, and dangerous, to say because she doesn't think police should be in charge of traffic enforcement, that she can't call then when there is a safety issue. They currently receive taxpayer funding for traffic safety. She is a taxpayer and is entitled to those services. She shouldn't call the District Commander for them, but to say she shouldn't use them at all is BS, that's just trying to discourage certain political positions because you don't like them. You all are big defenders of MCPD, but they are not perfect at all and neither is Fire and Rescue. You're trying to prevent people from criticizing them by saying they can't do that and receive taxpayer funded services. That's not okay, that's the real abuse of power by the FOP here.

What a gross misinterpretation of my words! I didn’t say she can’t call them when she has a safety issue. She shouldn’t call the district commander! Are you seriously okay with that? Seriously? I’d be more impressed if she (or her supporters, in this case) could just own up to this being a bad choice. To dig in and defend it just makes it worse.

I am also not discouraging different political positions. Where did I do that? I am calling her out for hypocrisy, which isn’t difficult to do considering her calls for fewer police will make very non-emergency calls like this one very hard for police to report to. The hostile environment toward police caused by this council is one of the main reasons WHY our county’s police department is so short staffed

Mink can criticize them all she wants. (She already has been.) I’d respect her beliefs more if I felt she actually knew what the police do. Perhaps she’ll take this as an opportunity to do a ride along or visit district stations. Getting to see the reality of policing in the county may actually help her in her role on the safety committee.

Moco folks actually voted for this loser? Good god.

It’s just puzzling to me why she wouldn’t shift her rhetoric after hearing from people at her town halls and personally dealing with police in her district. It almost seems like the police aren’t as bad as she said thought they were. It would be nice to see her acknowledge that. Maybe she’s not as smart or open minded as I thought since she seems unable to overcome her own bigotry.

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Anonymous wrote:She had just had a meeting with him. She called him directly because of that. He should have advised her they don’t change tires though and started her a tow truck for that.

They do change tires. All the time. Community policing as well as roadway safety.

Would have gone a long way if she had tweeted her appreciation for their help after tweeting that they were basically Memphis.

not in moco they don’t. Maybe for a friend or something, but if you call moco police with a flat tire they will call u a tow.

I have seen it twice this past year (2022). If I see it that often, and I’m barely out, it’s happening on a regular basis.

This is from the article:

https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-councilmember-councilwoman-kristin-mink-police-third-district-3d-commander-flat-tire-phone-call-assistance-favor-union-fop-fraternal-order-officer?fbclid=IwAR0lnqhHP0RNRUVkSeitgKhQJVcmkhdPe4ZA6aXFSDKRpdWg5vJcFT2bHYk&fs=e&s=cl

According to the FOP, Montgomery County officers are not required to change flat tires but may do so from time to time as a kind gesture. It basically comes down to an officer's personal discretion.

"If it's a 95-year-old lady and she's stuck on the side of the road at midnight and there are no calls for service, of course, an officer's going to help. But if the car's safely on the side of the road and it's just a flat tire, an officer's going to set up flares and tell the person to call for a tow truck or use AAA if they have it,"

There is a chasm of difference between non emergency number and calling the district commander personally.

One is normal (although I’d personally just change my tire and/or call AAA). The other is the very definition of using her position for a favor. And the fact that she is both so anti police vocally and literally tweeted two days ago that they should not be involved in traffic stops- makes her a hypocrite. This isn’t complicated.

It speaks volumes about the people who say this isn’t a story or there is nothing to talk about here. Of course there is.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw I estimate there are approximately two DCUM posters that live in Mink's district. The rest of you have no power to vote her out.

Who wants to vote her out? They might replace her with someone effective. Besides, it’s too
much.

Very few people in Mink's district for sure. You are all fooling yourselves in thinking this "scandal" means anything at all.

DP here.

While this isn’t a “scandal,” it does confirm my concerns about Mink: I question her judgment. This is a terribly bad look for her. She has been very vocal recently about MCPD. To use them in this capacity after calling for less police presence in the county? It’s seriously hypocritical. I’m not impressed at all.

And no, I have no connection to the FOP.

I actually think it's quite ridiculous, and dangerous, to say because she doesn't think police should be in charge of traffic enforcement, that she can't call then when there is a safety issue. They currently receive taxpayer funding for traffic safety. She is a taxpayer and is entitled to those services. She shouldn't call the District Commander for them, but to say she shouldn't use them at all is BS, that's just trying to discourage certain political positions because you don't like them. You all are big defenders of MCPD, but they are not perfect at all and neither is Fire and Rescue. You're trying to prevent people from criticizing them by saying they can't do that and receive taxpayer funded services. That's not okay, that's the real abuse of power by the FOP here.

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her political positions but to say she asked police to change her tire is dumb. She called AAA and then made the stupid decision to call the District Commander instead of the non emergency number to let them know her car was in the middle of the road. Makes sense to let the people currently in charge of traffic enforcement and safety of a traffic safety issue. If thus function was transferred to another department then she would have called them.

Who's saying she asked the police to change her tire? Do you agree her behavior was reprehensible or not?

No, I don't agree. I think it was dumb to call the District Commander, but it was an error in judgment.

Anyone familiar with the FOP knows they are completely full of it and desperately want to get her voted out. If anything I think the police are abusing their powers for political gain.

Again- pretend it was anyone other than the most left member of the county council here. Literally any other elected official. Take the cheerleader hat off, and use your eyes.

It has to be a member of her team or her family writing these minimizing replies. Only they could pretend to be so obtuse as
to not see the issue here or the irony of the situation. It’s very amusing.

No one is asking that she be charged with a crime. I even agree with a lot of her political views, but wow.

Nope. I actually think as far as Mink's behavior goes it's not s good look that she thought calling the District Commander was the right way to go. She is a county leader and doesn't have a good understanding of how police and first responders work. I also think, as someone supportive of police reform, that it is important to be gracious towards first responders even when the FOP is being ...the FOP, and her Twitter post doesn't show any graciousness towards the people that helped her. But the specific criticisms of her being laid out in this thread strike me as pretty ridiculous. If the only way your brain can process that is to assume I'm a member of her team, so be it, in that case, y'all are a bunch of FOP members trying to discredit someone who wants to reduce your department's budget.

This discussion has been about her character. Her policies are a whole other subject.


If you are comfortable with her, then more power to you. Good luck with that.

And what do you know of her character?

That’s a funny thing to ask here don’t you think? Lol

-np

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her political positions but to say she asked police to change her tire is dumb. She called AAA and then made the stupid decision to call the District Commander instead of the non emergency number to let them know her car was in the middle of the road. Makes sense to let the people currently in charge of traffic enforcement and safety of a traffic safety issue. If thus function was transferred to another department then she would have called them.

Who's saying she asked the police to change her tire? Do you agree her behavior was reprehensible or not?

No, I don't agree. I think it was dumb to call the District Commander, but it was an error in judgment.

Anyone familiar with the FOP knows they are completely full of it and desperately want to get her voted out. If anything I think the police are abusing their powers for political gain.

Again- pretend it was anyone other than the most left member of the county council here. Literally any other elected official. Take the cheerleader hat off, and use your eyes.

It has to be a member of her team or her family writing these minimizing replies. Only they could pretend to be so obtuse as
to not see the issue here or the irony of the situation. It’s very amusing.

No one is asking that she be charged with a crime. I even agree with a lot of her political views, but wow.

Nope. I actually think as far as Mink's behavior goes it's not s good look that she thought calling the District Commander was the right way to go. She is a county leader and doesn't have a good understanding of how police and first responders work. I also think, as someone supportive of police reform, that it is important to be gracious towards first responders even when the FOP is being ...the FOP, and her Twitter post doesn't show any graciousness towards the people that helped her. But the specific criticisms of her being laid out in this thread strike me as pretty ridiculous. If the only way your brain can process that is to assume I'm a member of her team, so be it, in that case, y'all are a bunch of FOP members trying to discredit someone who wants to reduce your department's budget.

This discussion has been about her character. Her policies are a whole other subject.


If you are comfortable with her, then more power to you. Good luck with that.

And what do you know of her character?

DP. I know that she's an entitled hypocrite and that's all I need to know.

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her political positions but to say she asked police to change her tire is dumb. She called AAA and then made the stupid decision to call the District Commander instead of the non emergency number to let them know her car was in the middle of the road. Makes sense to let the people currently in charge of traffic enforcement and safety of a traffic safety issue. If thus function was transferred to another department then she would have called them.

Who's saying she asked the police to change her tire? Do you agree her behavior was reprehensible or not?

No, I don't agree. I think it was dumb to call the District Commander, but it was an error in judgment.

Anyone familiar with the FOP knows they are completely full of it and desperately want to get her voted out. If anything I think the police are abusing their powers for political gain.

Again- pretend it was anyone other than the most left member of the county council here. Literally any other elected official. Take the cheerleader hat off, and use your eyes.

It has to be a member of her team or her family writing these minimizing replies. Only they could pretend to be so obtuse as
to not see the issue here or the irony of the situation. It’s very amusing.

No one is asking that she be charged with a crime. I even agree with a lot of her political views, but wow.

Nope. I actually think as far as Mink's behavior goes it's not s good look that she thought calling the District Commander was the right way to go. She is a county leader and doesn't have a good understanding of how police and first responders work. I also think, as someone supportive of police reform, that it is important to be gracious towards first responders even when the FOP is being ...the FOP, and her Twitter post doesn't show any graciousness towards the people that helped her. But the specific criticisms of her being laid out in this thread strike me as pretty ridiculous. If the only way your brain can process that is to assume I'm a member of her team, so be it, in that case, y'all are a bunch of FOP members trying to discredit someone who wants to reduce your department's budget.

This discussion has been about her character. Her policies are a whole other subject.


If you are comfortable with her, then more power to you. Good luck with that.

And what do you know of her character?