Anonymous wrote:Sorry you can't watch Netflix while you work anymore.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, hard to be productive when you're ranting paragraphs on DCUM!

Anonymous wrote:How sad if all the challenges we went through in the last three years just result in our "going back to normal" instead of making positive changes in all facets of life - including work-life balance

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Anonymous wrote:Were you this incapable of functioning pre-pandemic, or is it a long Covid thing?

Were you not employed before 2020? Suck it up buttercup. It’s call real life.

But pre-pandemic there were very few people who knew how beneficial working from home could be for their health, wellness, family life, etc. Most people who had a WAH grumbled about not having face time or being disconnected since WAH infrastructure wasn't as robust as it is now. Or they said they felt isolated or went house crazy if they didn't have a system in place for getting out of the house daily.
With COVID people had to adjust to being in the house more often, WAH, etc. They got new routines, new priorities, more time/less time, some marriages fell apart, some got stronger, and some families readjusted their priorities after realizing how LITTLE time they get with their kids. Companies invested in WAH capabilities and many of us were WAH- even when we would have transitioned back to the office at any earlier time- for 1-2.5 years. Of course I wanted to go into the office when I had a toddler at home part-time and my job was always taking a back seat to my DH's fed job, which always seems to somehow be in emergency mode.

Now people are being asked to revert back to the office but all the benefits of the office no longer feel like benefits. I get to control my house temp, I have a fantastic setup at home that I personally paid for, all my meetings are virtual, I save money on gas, I can work outside on a pretty day, I walk on my treadmill 2-3x day for 10-15 minutes, etc. Managers act like they want people to work but all I hear about are companies paying out the wazoo for return-to-office parties and office "culture" events, which are not working.

Progress was never made by going backwards and that's what many companies are asking people to do. There are some jobs that will never be able to, and were never able to, work from home. That is not the point of WAH vs WOH discussions. Those jobs are nothingburgers because they never had to transition to/from WAH and WOH. But I can assure you that the WOH people would rather have the WAH at home. All of my teacher friends complain about how much earlier they have to leave because of traffic. WAH people are also more likely to make mid-day appointments, thereby, reducing the amount of people who require early morning and late afternoon appointments.

Nope, this is where you're wrong. It's not going backwards. WFH during Covid, for 99% of people, was a stopgap measure.

It worked. It was progress. Jobs got done, work got completed, deliverables got met. Thats what matters. A stopgap for 2 years? 6 weeks sure. 2 years- nope. Thats the new normal.

Well, your boss disagrees, so that's all that matters. Go find a new job if you're too important to "waste time" on a commute.

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Anonymous wrote:Go find a new job. One with a small commute, or totally remote.

I cannot stand it when people whine about their commute. You knew where the office was when you took the job.

That was before the pandemic exposed what a fraud office culture is and how modern technology and communications have relegated office culture to the 20th century. Everyone accepted commutes before, because they were forced companies to do so, and modern telecom infrastructure didn't exist yet.

Technology has changed and exposed how much work can be done fine 100% remotely. It has made commutes unnecessary and obsolete. You sound like an old crab about people who probably complained about still having to use stupid typewriters when computers came into existence. Get with the times and use modern technology please. Or get the hell out of the workforce and let the country modernize. Dinosaurs with 20th century mindset are dragging this country down.

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Anonymous wrote:Go find a new job. One with a small commute, or totally remote.

I cannot stand it when people whine about their commute. You knew where the office was when you took the job.

That was before the pandemic exposed what a fraud office culture is and how modern technology and communications have relegated office culture to the 20th century. Everyone accepted commutes before, because they were forced companies to do so, and modern telecom infrastructure didn't exist yet.

Technology has changed and exposed how much work can be done fine 100% remotely. It has made commutes unnecessary and obsolete. You sound like an old crab about people who probably complained about still having to use stupid typewriters when computers came into existence. Get with the times and use modern technology please. Or get the hell out of the workforce and let the country modernize. Dinosaurs with 20th century mindset are dragging this country down.

No. It's actually children who want to stay at home in their PJs all day, pretending to work and produce "deliverables" who are dragging the country down.

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Anonymous wrote:Go find a new job. One with a small commute, or totally remote.

I cannot stand it when people whine about their commute. You knew where the office was when you took the job.

That was before the pandemic exposed what a fraud office culture is and how modern technology and communications have relegated office culture to the 20th century. Everyone accepted commutes before, because they were forced companies to do so, and modern telecom infrastructure didn't exist yet.

Technology has changed and exposed how much work can be done fine 100% remotely. It has made commutes unnecessary and obsolete. You sound like an old crab about people who probably complained about still having to use stupid typewriters when computers came into existence. Get with the times and use modern technology please. Or get the hell out of the workforce and let the country modernize. Dinosaurs with 20th century mindset are dragging this country down.

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Anonymous wrote:Go find a new job. One with a small commute, or totally remote.

I cannot stand it when people whine about their commute. You knew where the office was when you took the job.

That was before the pandemic exposed what a fraud office culture is and how modern technology and communications have relegated office culture to the 20th century. Everyone accepted commutes before, because they were forced companies to do so, and modern telecom infrastructure didn't exist yet.

Technology has changed and exposed how much work can be done fine 100% remotely. It has made commutes unnecessary and obsolete. You sound like an old crab about people who probably complained about still having to use stupid typewriters when computers came into existence. Get with the times and use modern technology please. Or get the hell out of the workforce and let the country modernize. Dinosaurs with 20th century mindset are dragging this country down.

80 percent of jobs are BS. ChatGPT can already take them over. It’s gonna be ugly.

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Anonymous wrote:Were you this incapable of functioning pre-pandemic, or is it a long Covid thing?

Were you not employed before 2020? Suck it up buttercup. It’s call real life.

But pre-pandemic there were very few people who knew how beneficial working from home could be for their health, wellness, family life, etc. Most people who had a WAH grumbled about not having face time or being disconnected since WAH infrastructure wasn't as robust as it is now. Or they said they felt isolated or went house crazy if they didn't have a system in place for getting out of the house daily.
With COVID people had to adjust to being in the house more often, WAH, etc. They got new routines, new priorities, more time/less time, some marriages fell apart, some got stronger, and some families readjusted their priorities after realizing how LITTLE time they get with their kids. Companies invested in WAH capabilities and many of us were WAH- even when we would have transitioned back to the office at any earlier time- for 1-2.5 years. Of course I wanted to go into the office when I had a toddler at home part-time and my job was always taking a back seat to my DH's fed job, which always seems to somehow be in emergency mode.

Now people are being asked to revert back to the office but all the benefits of the office no longer feel like benefits. I get to control my house temp, I have a fantastic setup at home that I personally paid for, all my meetings are virtual, I save money on gas, I can work outside on a pretty day, I walk on my treadmill 2-3x day for 10-15 minutes, etc. Managers act like they want people to work but all I hear about are companies paying out the wazoo for return-to-office parties and office "culture" events, which are not working.

Progress was never made by going backwards and that's what many companies are asking people to do. There are some jobs that will never be able to, and were never able to, work from home. That is not the point of WAH vs WOH discussions. Those jobs are nothingburgers because they never had to transition to/from WAH and WOH. But I can assure you that the WOH people would rather have the WAH at home. All of my teacher friends complain about how much earlier they have to leave because of traffic. WAH people are also more likely to make mid-day appointments, thereby, reducing the amount of people who require early morning and late afternoon appointments.

Nope, this is where you're wrong. It's not going backwards. WFH during Covid, for 99% of people, was a stopgap measure.

It worked. It was progress. Jobs got done, work got completed, deliverables got met. Thats what matters. A stopgap for 2 years? 6 weeks sure. 2 years- nope. Thats the new normal.

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Anonymous wrote:Go find a new job. One with a small commute, or totally remote.

I cannot stand it when people whine about their commute. You knew where the office was when you took the job.

That was before the pandemic exposed what a fraud office culture is and how modern technology and communications have relegated office culture to the 20th century. Everyone accepted commutes before, because they were forced companies to do so, and modern telecom infrastructure didn't exist yet.

Technology has changed and exposed how much work can be done fine 100% remotely. It has made commutes unnecessary and obsolete. You sound like an old crab about people who probably complained about still having to use stupid typewriters when computers came into existence. Get with the times and use modern technology please. Or get the hell out of the workforce and let the country modernize. Dinosaurs with 20th century mindset are dragging this country down.

Anonymous wrote:DCUM shows who it is all along - a bunch of middling, unimpressive boomer middle managers stuck in a dinosaur mindset of the 20th century.

Can you all please retire and let the workforce modernize already? You are a huge drag on worker productivity with all of your inane micromanaging and stupid office culture that only wastes tons of time.

Anonymous wrote:Go find a new job. One with a small commute, or totally remote.

I cannot stand it when people whine about their commute. You knew where the office was when you took the job.