Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:53     Subject: Re:APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:Side note for any who know, why are dealers lacing drugs with fentanyl? Isn't their goal to hook people and therefore make money selling drugs? Why are they lacing drugs with something deadly which one would think means it's killing off their customers?


1. Its cheaper. A pin prick of fentanyl gives a high, so the rest of the pill is filler. So they get more $$$. They aren't ALL purposely trying to kill their clients.
2. It's not always a bad thing when your customers have an overdose - it means your pills are potent... which means addicts want it. Its a sad sad business.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:51     Subject: Re:APS overdose at Wakefield
Side note for any who know, why are dealers lacing drugs with fentanyl? Isn't their goal to hook people and therefore make money selling drugs? Why are they lacing drugs with something deadly which one would think means it's killing off their customers?
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:46     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bathrooms aren't the issue. These kids are taking pills. They can take pills anywhere.

The issue is the drug. The issue is WHY they take the drug. The issue is WHY they want to feel the way the drug makes them feel to escape from their real lives. We need to fix that.

And this is not a good neighborhood vs bad neighborhood problem.



Would you say that all Arlington High Schools are affected about equally by drugs/illicit pills being sold/traded/taken etc on school grounds? My kids are not in HS yet.


PP- ALL HS period. Not just arlington.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:45     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:The bathrooms aren't the issue. These kids are taking pills. They can take pills anywhere.

The issue is the drug. The issue is WHY they take the drug. The issue is WHY they want to feel the way the drug makes them feel to escape from their real lives. We need to fix that.

And this is not a good neighborhood vs bad neighborhood problem.



Would you say that all Arlington High Schools are affected about equally by drugs/illicit pills being sold/traded/taken etc on school grounds? My kids are not in HS yet.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:41     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The important thing is that we all come together and blame the teachers.


Yep- why werent they monitoring almost legal adult in the bathrooms! <sarcasm>



Right?! Over on AEM they are calling for teaches to monitor bathrooms, teachers to administer Narcan, teachers, teachers, teachers. They are not paid enough for such ridiculous expectations.

I think I understand the SRO controversy (not saying I’m knowledgeable or without my own biases), but isn’t that return of SROs one option that we should seriously consider?


YES. Need return of the SRO. Imo it doesn’t have to be a person who is actively with the Police Department. It could be anyone who is a local government employee, trained in de-escalation and various safety and emergency procedures.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:30     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bathrooms aren't the issue. These kids are taking pills. They can take pills anywhere.

The issue is the drug. The issue is WHY they take the drug. The issue is WHY they want to feel the way the drug makes them feel to escape from their real lives. We need to fix that.

And this is not a good neighborhood vs bad neighborhood problem.



+1

There are some high achieving (grade wise) students who think if you take Adderall you are able to focus more. (obviously, these are students without a prescription). The pressure on them from middle school to get into a top college is real. Fake Adderall is one of the pills that contains fentanyl.


This. A student at my son's college died last year after taking illicit "adderall" that had fentanyl.

DD is a senior at W-L and recently told me she hadn't realized until this Fall how many of the high achieving kids are coping with the pressure with drinking and drugs. It's at all the high schools and both good students and slackers.


Not that this is the only reason, of course, but we have a whole generation of teenagers who just witnessed firsthand their parents cope with “pandemic stress” with heavy drinking.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:27     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bathrooms aren't the issue. These kids are taking pills. They can take pills anywhere.

The issue is the drug. The issue is WHY they take the drug. The issue is WHY they want to feel the way the drug makes them feel to escape from their real lives. We need to fix that.

And this is not a good neighborhood vs bad neighborhood problem.



+1

There are some high achieving (grade wise) students who think if you take Adderall you are able to focus more. (obviously, these are students without a prescription). The pressure on them from middle school to get into a top college is real. Fake Adderall is one of the pills that contains fentanyl.


This. A student at my son's college died last year after taking illicit "adderall" that had fentanyl.

DD is a senior at W-L and recently told me she hadn't realized until this Fall how many of the high achieving kids are coping with the pressure with drinking and drugs. It's at all the high schools and both good students and slackers.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:17     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:The bathrooms aren't the issue. These kids are taking pills. They can take pills anywhere.

The issue is the drug. The issue is WHY they take the drug. The issue is WHY they want to feel the way the drug makes them feel to escape from their real lives. We need to fix that.

And this is not a good neighborhood vs bad neighborhood problem.



+1

There are some high achieving (grade wise) students who think if you take Adderall you are able to focus more. (obviously, these are students without a prescription). The pressure on them from middle school to get into a top college is real. Fake Adderall is one of the pills that contains fentanyl.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:14     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just signed up for tomorrow's training because of PP's post above. Thank you!


Same. I also had no idea you could request narcan as a civilian.

Is narcan being kept in the schools? If not, it absolutely should be.

I watched that video recently of the female sheriff's deputy who was accidentally exposed to fentanyl during a traffic stop and she went down like that *finger snap*. She was out - totally gone - and her fellow deputies brought her back with a dose or two of narcan. It was scary and amazing to see all at the same time.

I really had no idea fentanyl exposure - meaning exposure by touch or powder/dust in the air - was so deadly/serious.


It isn’t. Many cops are drug addicts and even drug dealers, and when they’re caught under the influence they blame it on this absolute falsehood of “exposure.”
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:12     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
The bathrooms aren't the issue. These kids are taking pills. They can take pills anywhere.

The issue is the drug. The issue is WHY they take the drug. The issue is WHY they want to feel the way the drug makes them feel to escape from their real lives. We need to fix that.

And this is not a good neighborhood vs bad neighborhood problem.

Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 11:01     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has some rough neighborhoods so it's an unfortunate issue for that school


Doesn’t Yorktown have a bigger drug problem?


That’s what I’ve always heard, but I haven’t seen the stats.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 10:42     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
No one said SROs were the only solution, but should be *part* of the solution. Nothing will stop all drug issues at school, but having an SRO on site could help stop the pipeline or, at least, make kids think twice and make healthier decisions.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 10:27     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has some rough neighborhoods so it's an unfortunate issue for that school


You know there was an overdose at Yorktown recently? This is not a rough neighborhood issue.


there was no overdose AT yorktown. stop fear mongering.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 09:41     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has some rough neighborhoods so it's an unfortunate issue for that school


You sound like the kind of person who thinks prescription drugs are fine, because they're safe and regulated and don't lead to abuse.

Anonymous
Post 02/01/2023 09:31     Subject: APS overdose at Wakefield
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has some rough neighborhoods so it's an unfortunate issue for that school


You know there was an overdose at Yorktown recently? This is not a rough neighborhood issue.