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Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Huh? My kid will attend his first choice T20 school.

You are hooked then in some way. You don’t want to admit it but you probably used your connections. That is hooked.

Legacy is not as huge a hook anymore. And most Big-3 parents, while wealthy, are not in a position to donate $20M to their alma mater. The hook coming from a Big-3 is the college counseling office, which has close relationships with admissions officers at the nationally ranked colleges and universities. Sometimes, college counselors at B-3s have even come from these admissions offices. And the one-on-one attention that Big-3 students receive means that their college counselors can ring up an admissions office and discuss individual applicants. Public school college counseling offices simply do not have the time to get to know every kid in the junior and senior classes who are applying to colleges. And private college counselors can be helpful, but they are not in the same category as the college counselors at Big-3 schools. The incentive for admissions officers to get to know private college counselors is simply not as great as getting to know the college counselors at the Big-3.

US public school parents are chuckling. Can't get into Michigan after $50k a year and good grades? Say what to those of us who just updated our kitchens or congrats to my public school parent friend who just got a summer home! Whew that was close.

Haha us private school parents realize we are paying for a superb, rigorous education that happened even during Covid, with small classes and teachers that know our kids. We realize the true value of the education and know our kids will do well at whatever college they attend. Oh - and we have a second home and vacation internationally twice a year.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Ha, very funny.

No, there are 3 hooks:

-URM
-Legacy which at the Big3 generally means VIP legacy (a big donor or famous person who is legacy)
-recruited athlete

NCS had one kid last year admitted to an Ivy of any kind without being one (or generally more than 1) of these.

So if the stats I am finding online are correct, then NCS has about 45 white or Asian girls in a class. Let’s imagine that 5 of them have parents who went to an Ivy or will be recruited.

That means that 2.5% of the kids in that category got into Ivies. That is an incredibly high number. Way higher than public school kids. If you think that attending NCS isn’t a hook you are seriously delusional.

So, doing my advanced math, you are basically saying that 1/45 = 2.2% (which is close to 2.5%) got into an Ivy that was unhooked, which is a great result?

Comparing to public school is really apples-to-oranges. You had to score high on the SSAT and have high grades just to get into NCS to begin, while a public school might have 300-500 kids per class where you just need to live in-boundary or go to a feeder school in-boundary. If you compare NCS to just the top 10% of JR (roughly 50 kids) you may actually not think 2.5% is a great result.

True apples-to-apples is to compare NCS to magnet schools like TJ or Blair Magnet program...even Walls. Your 1/45 will actually look terrible.

Lots of Ivy admits at NCs and You’re missing the point those kids would not have gotten in as athletes if they were at a public school. The fact that they’re at a big 3 gives them added attention and the Ivies like that. That’s what you’re missing they may not have gotten in from public. Coming from a big three in this area and being a good athlete means you’re a scholar athlete and it puts you in a different level. You’re very obtuse if you don’t get that. Besides percentage wise a lot of kids went to Ivy’s last year from NCS, Sidwell, GDS, and St. Albans. Much higher percentage than from public so hands down kids at the big three are going to more ivies and whether they’re hooked or not means part of that hook means attending a big three. There’s a lot of clout in that because they know the quality of work these kids are doing plus the sports requirements and then outside sports teams. So that being a student plus a great athlete requires a lot had a big three in colleges like that clearly. That’s why you had four kids from NCS get into Columbia last year alone. You can keep saying they’re hooked to make yourself feel better but part of the hook is that they’re smart and attending a rigorous school with demanding schedule.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Huh? My kid will attend his first choice T20 school.

You are hooked then in some way. You don’t want to admit it but you probably used your connections. That is hooked.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Ha, very funny.

No, there are 3 hooks:

-URM
-Legacy which at the Big3 generally means VIP legacy (a big donor or famous person who is legacy)
-recruited athlete

NCS had one kid last year admitted to an Ivy of any kind without being one (or generally more than 1) of these.

So if the stats I am finding online are correct, then NCS has about 45 white or Asian girls in a class. Let’s imagine that 5 of them have parents who went to an Ivy or will be recruited.

That means that 2.5% of the kids in that category got into Ivies. That is an incredibly high number. Way higher than public school kids. If you think that attending NCS isn’t a hook you are seriously delusional.

However, way, way more than 5 parents went to an Ivy in any NCS class. Many kids have both parents having gone to an Ivy and often different Ivies.

GDS had at least one unhooked grad to an Ivy last year (in ED..not an athlete, URM or legacy)...semi-famous parent though (in a weird, DC kind of way).

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Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Ha, very funny.

No, there are 3 hooks:

-URM
-Legacy which at the Big3 generally means VIP legacy (a big donor or famous person who is legacy)
-recruited athlete

NCS had one kid last year admitted to an Ivy of any kind without being one (or generally more than 1) of these.

So if the stats I am finding online are correct, then NCS has about 45 white or Asian girls in a class. Let’s imagine that 5 of them have parents who went to an Ivy or will be recruited.

That means that 2.5% of the kids in that category got into Ivies. That is an incredibly high number. Way higher than public school kids. If you think that attending NCS isn’t a hook you are seriously delusional.

So, doing my advanced math, you are basically saying that 1/45 = 2.2% (which is close to 2.5%) got into an Ivy that was unhooked, which is a great result?

Comparing to public school is really apples-to-oranges. You had to score high on the SSAT and have high grades just to get into NCS to begin, while a public school might have 300-500 kids per class where you just need to live in-boundary or go to a feeder school in-boundary. If you compare NCS to just the top 10% of JR (roughly 50 kids) you may actually not think 2.5% is a great result.

True apples-to-apples is to compare NCS to magnet schools like TJ or Blair Magnet program...even Walls. Your 1/45 will actually look terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Huh? My kid will attend his first choice T20 school.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Ha, very funny.

No, there are 3 hooks:

-URM
-Legacy which at the Big3 generally means VIP legacy (a big donor or famous person who is legacy)
-recruited athlete

NCS had one kid last year admitted to an Ivy of any kind without being one (or generally more than 1) of these.

So if the stats I am finding online are correct, then NCS has about 45 white or Asian girls in a class. Let’s imagine that 5 of them have parents who went to an Ivy or will be recruited.

That means that 2.5% of the kids in that category got into Ivies. That is an incredibly high number. Way higher than public school kids. If you think that attending NCS isn’t a hook you are seriously delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

What is "unconnected"? Is it the same as "unhooked"?

My DD got Deferred Ugh

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Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Ha, very funny.

No, there are 3 hooks:

-URM
-Legacy which at the Big3 generally means VIP legacy (a big donor or famous person who is legacy)
-recruited athlete

NCS had one kid last year admitted to an Ivy of any kind without being one (or generally more than 1) of these.

I think GDS has had zero unhooked top Ivy last two years. And so far in ED, that record holds.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Ha, very funny.

No, there are 3 hooks:

-URM
-Legacy which at the Big3 generally means VIP legacy (a big donor or famous person who is legacy)
-recruited athlete

NCS had one kid last year admitted to an Ivy of any kind without being one (or generally more than 1) of these.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.

You're not playing the game right. You have to look at all the people whose kids did better than yours in the admissions game (by whatever standards you measure that) and then make up some category of hook that applies to them and not your kid.

You can find a hook for everyone! It will make you feel better that your kid ended up at a SLAC or state flagship.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not all doom and gloom. Many kids get into excellent schools from private.
You can’t just look at top ivy results. I bet more than a few kids got into Cornell for example

No, not unconnected kids. At my kid's Big3 there was one Ivy admit (of any kind) last year for an unconnected kid.

Can you name the school? I can say that wasn’t the case at STA.