Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 11:54     Subject: Demand collapse for Teslas

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Anonymous wrote:We have two Teslas - bought an X in 2016 and a 3 last year. We’re very liberal. Elon’s going off the deep end, but insisting that anyone who owns a Tesla has no ethics is comical. I mean, you realize that none of the big automakers would be producing EVs were it not for Tesla, right?



Wrong actually.

And for god's sake Elon did not invent Tesla. He could not invent a simple fan.

exactly. I stated this upthread, too. The idea was not his original idea. Also, I read some where a while ago that he started Tesla purely to impress a woman.

He doesn't really care about green house emissions. Please. He moved to a state that supports big oil and has laws about selling EVs directly. In order to buy a Tesla in TX you have to get it out of state.

Yet, Musk still lives in TX. Why? Because he knows people will still buy them, though tides may be turning.


In the history of Tesla, omg people Musk did not invent any technology ever.

He stole Tesla from its original makers. He went to court over and over again just like Don The Con actually Elon credits his court acumen to Dump.

College degree hahahahahaha Standford the DCUM school lied for him lost in court lied again lost again. Stanford is a crap school this is a fact. How they handled this situation was atrocious.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-many-failures-of-elon-musk-captured-in-one-giant-infographic-2017-05-24


Omg who cares. That's like saying Howard Hughes had no impact on aviation because he didn't invent flight and the aircraft. It takes more than just inventing something, it takes a business magnate mind to change the world with new ideas as well because you still need to commercialize and develop new inventions even if they were invented by someone else. Inventing something new is one thing, but going out raising capital, and developing the means of production on an industrial scale to get new technologies widely adopted is a whole different beast. Just because Elon didn't invent Tesla's technology doesn't mean anything. Do CEOs of pharmaceutical companies all personal invent the therapies they sell? No.

Dumb argument.


DP. I mean, so what? Lots of car makers were developing electric cars when Mush came along, they continued to develop and raise capital and "develop the means of production" to "commercialize" and launch their electric cars. Musk is special because... he's a pos.


Complete BS. Virtually no car makers before Tesla were making EVs on a large scale and were successful at getting them adopted. You have a completely warped revisionist history.



Yup.

Pp above just cares about political bs, not about climate change or about simple truth.

DP.. do you think Musk actually cares about climate change? Do you think his space rockets are good for the environment? Why would someone who cares about climate change move to a state that is big oil friendly?



do you think Musk actually cares about climate change?

YES

Do you think his space rockets are good for the environment?

THEY ARE CERTAINLY GOOD FOR HUMANITY IN THE LONG-TERM, AND FOR UKRAINE THIS VERY SECOND.

Why would someone who cares about climate change move to a state that is big oil friendly?

FOR THE SAME REASON SO MANY LARGE COMPANIES HAVE LEFT CA. THE STATE HAS BECOME A PAIN.

what type of logic causes someone who cares about climate change to move to TX, a state that is big oil friendly?

If it were not for PIA CA, Tesla wouldn't exist, btw. They gave him a ton of subsidies. I lived in the Bay Area when Tesla started. So, you can indirectly thank me (and millions of other Californians) for your Tesla.

So you agree that Musk's rockets aren't good for the environment (the topic we were discussing). Thanks for agreeing.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 11:36     Subject: Re:Demand collapse for Teslas

I find anyone who previously thought Musk was a genius as being very stupid. I have always hated Musk because how he treated his ex-Wife and children. Besides that look at his ugly face and his expressions, look at how he treats women and his employees. His behavior is no different than Trump and that means that he is unhinged.

What I find so distasteful is that people are finding faults with Musk now. He was always a douchebag and behaved poorly all his life. Plus his father is also a nasty man. There is something very wrong in how he has been raised and his family.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 11:24     Subject: Demand collapse for Teslas

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Anonymous wrote:We have two Teslas - bought an X in 2016 and a 3 last year. We’re very liberal. Elon’s going off the deep end, but insisting that anyone who owns a Tesla has no ethics is comical. I mean, you realize that none of the big automakers would be producing EVs were it not for Tesla, right?



Wrong actually.

And for god's sake Elon did not invent Tesla. He could not invent a simple fan.

exactly. I stated this upthread, too. The idea was not his original idea. Also, I read some where a while ago that he started Tesla purely to impress a woman.

He doesn't really care about green house emissions. Please. He moved to a state that supports big oil and has laws about selling EVs directly. In order to buy a Tesla in TX you have to get it out of state.

Yet, Musk still lives in TX. Why? Because he knows people will still buy them, though tides may be turning.


In the history of Tesla, omg people Musk did not invent any technology ever.

He stole Tesla from its original makers. He went to court over and over again just like Don The Con actually Elon credits his court acumen to Dump.

College degree hahahahahaha Standford the DCUM school lied for him lost in court lied again lost again. Stanford is a crap school this is a fact. How they handled this situation was atrocious.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-many-failures-of-elon-musk-captured-in-one-giant-infographic-2017-05-24


Omg who cares. That's like saying Howard Hughes had no impact on aviation because he didn't invent flight and the aircraft. It takes more than just inventing something, it takes a business magnate mind to change the world with new ideas as well because you still need to commercialize and develop new inventions even if they were invented by someone else. Inventing something new is one thing, but going out raising capital, and developing the means of production on an industrial scale to get new technologies widely adopted is a whole different beast. Just because Elon didn't invent Tesla's technology doesn't mean anything. Do CEOs of pharmaceutical companies all personal invent the therapies they sell? No.

Dumb argument.


DP. I mean, so what? Lots of car makers were developing electric cars when Mush came along, they continued to develop and raise capital and "develop the means of production" to "commercialize" and launch their electric cars. Musk is special because... he's a pos.


Complete BS. Virtually no car makers before Tesla were making EVs on a large scale and were successful at getting them adopted. You have a completely warped revisionist history.



Yup.

Pp above just cares about political bs, not about climate change or about simple truth.

DP.. do you think Musk actually cares about climate change? Do you think his space rockets are good for the environment? Why would someone who cares about climate change move to a state that is big oil friendly?



do you think Musk actually cares about climate change?

YES

Do you think his space rockets are good for the environment?

THEY ARE CERTAINLY GOOD FOR HUMANITY IN THE LONG-TERM, AND FOR UKRAINE THIS VERY SECOND.

Why would someone who cares about climate change move to a state that is big oil friendly?

FOR THE SAME REASON SO MANY LARGE COMPANIES HAVE LEFT CA. THE STATE HAS BECOME A PAIN.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 11:22     Subject: Demand collapse for Teslas

Anonymous wrote:Musk is the icon of the century.

more like he and Trump are the douchebag of the century. LOL
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 11:20     Subject: Demand collapse for Teslas

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Anonymous wrote:We have two Teslas - bought an X in 2016 and a 3 last year. We’re very liberal. Elon’s going off the deep end, but insisting that anyone who owns a Tesla has no ethics is comical. I mean, you realize that none of the big automakers would be producing EVs were it not for Tesla, right?



Wrong actually.

And for god's sake Elon did not invent Tesla. He could not invent a simple fan.

exactly. I stated this upthread, too. The idea was not his original idea. Also, I read some where a while ago that he started Tesla purely to impress a woman.

He doesn't really care about green house emissions. Please. He moved to a state that supports big oil and has laws about selling EVs directly. In order to buy a Tesla in TX you have to get it out of state.

Yet, Musk still lives in TX. Why? Because he knows people will still buy them, though tides may be turning.


In the history of Tesla, omg people Musk did not invent any technology ever.

He stole Tesla from its original makers. He went to court over and over again just like Don The Con actually Elon credits his court acumen to Dump.

College degree hahahahahaha Standford the DCUM school lied for him lost in court lied again lost again. Stanford is a crap school this is a fact. How they handled this situation was atrocious.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-many-failures-of-elon-musk-captured-in-one-giant-infographic-2017-05-24


Omg who cares. That's like saying Howard Hughes had no impact on aviation because he didn't invent flight and the aircraft. It takes more than just inventing something, it takes a business magnate mind to change the world with new ideas as well because you still need to commercialize and develop new inventions even if they were invented by someone else. Inventing something new is one thing, but going out raising capital, and developing the means of production on an industrial scale to get new technologies widely adopted is a whole different beast. Just because Elon didn't invent Tesla's technology doesn't mean anything. Do CEOs of pharmaceutical companies all personal invent the therapies they sell? No.

Dumb argument.


DP. I mean, so what? Lots of car makers were developing electric cars when Mush came along, they continued to develop and raise capital and "develop the means of production" to "commercialize" and launch their electric cars. Musk is special because... he's a pos.


Complete BS. Virtually no car makers before Tesla were making EVs on a large scale and were successful at getting them adopted. You have a completely warped revisionist history.



Yup.

Pp above just cares about political bs, not about climate change or about simple truth.

DP.. do you think Musk actually cares about climate change? Do you think his space rockets are good for the environment? Why would someone who cares about climate change move to a state that is big oil friendly?
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 10:28     Subject: Re:Demand collapse for Teslas

Anonymous wrote:This is funny because in my circle it’s now an outlier to not have a Tesla. Nearly everyone I know with less than three kids has one, and Elon is the reason.


and they aren't mad about the price slashing?
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Post 01/17/2023 07:46     Subject: Demand collapse for Teslas

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Anonymous wrote:We have two Teslas - bought an X in 2016 and a 3 last year. We’re very liberal. Elon’s going off the deep end, but insisting that anyone who owns a Tesla has no ethics is comical. I mean, you realize that none of the big automakers would be producing EVs were it not for Tesla, right?



Wrong actually.

And for god's sake Elon did not invent Tesla. He could not invent a simple fan.

exactly. I stated this upthread, too. The idea was not his original idea. Also, I read some where a while ago that he started Tesla purely to impress a woman.

He doesn't really care about green house emissions. Please. He moved to a state that supports big oil and has laws about selling EVs directly. In order to buy a Tesla in TX you have to get it out of state.

Yet, Musk still lives in TX. Why? Because he knows people will still buy them, though tides may be turning.


In the history of Tesla, omg people Musk did not invent any technology ever.

He stole Tesla from its original makers. He went to court over and over again just like Don The Con actually Elon credits his court acumen to Dump.

College degree hahahahahaha Standford the DCUM school lied for him lost in court lied again lost again. Stanford is a crap school this is a fact. How they handled this situation was atrocious.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-many-failures-of-elon-musk-captured-in-one-giant-infographic-2017-05-24


Omg who cares. That's like saying Howard Hughes had no impact on aviation because he didn't invent flight and the aircraft. It takes more than just inventing something, it takes a business magnate mind to change the world with new ideas as well because you still need to commercialize and develop new inventions even if they were invented by someone else. Inventing something new is one thing, but going out raising capital, and developing the means of production on an industrial scale to get new technologies widely adopted is a whole different beast. Just because Elon didn't invent Tesla's technology doesn't mean anything. Do CEOs of pharmaceutical companies all personal invent the therapies they sell? No.

Dumb argument.


DP. I mean, so what? Lots of car makers were developing electric cars when Mush came along, they continued to develop and raise capital and "develop the means of production" to "commercialize" and launch their electric cars. Musk is special because... he's a pos.


Complete BS. Virtually no car makers before Tesla were making EVs on a large scale and were successful at getting them adopted. You have a completely warped revisionist history.



Yup.

Pp above just cares about political bs, not about climate change or about simple truth.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 06:54     Subject: Re:Demand collapse for Teslas

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Anonymous wrote:Love my Tesla


Good for you.

Sold all four of mine. Won't have my family in a Musk car much less the pieces of junk they were.

Enjoy your Japanese EV lolzzzz


NP. People are selling their Teslas because they don’t want to be mistaken for childish douches like this ^^^
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 06:52     Subject: Re:Demand collapse for Teslas

Anonymous wrote:If I’m going to buy an electric car, I’m going with the company that only makes electric cars.


Can’t be Tesla then. They do more than only make electric cars.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 06:51     Subject: Re:Demand collapse for Teslas

Anonymous wrote:If I’m going to buy an electric car, I’m going with the company that only makes electric cars.


Which one? There are several now.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2023 06:47     Subject: Demand collapse for Teslas

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Anonymous wrote:We have two Teslas - bought an X in 2016 and a 3 last year. We’re very liberal. Elon’s going off the deep end, but insisting that anyone who owns a Tesla has no ethics is comical. I mean, you realize that none of the big automakers would be producing EVs were it not for Tesla, right?



Wrong actually.

And for god's sake Elon did not invent Tesla. He could not invent a simple fan.

exactly. I stated this upthread, too. The idea was not his original idea. Also, I read some where a while ago that he started Tesla purely to impress a woman.

He doesn't really care about green house emissions. Please. He moved to a state that supports big oil and has laws about selling EVs directly. In order to buy a Tesla in TX you have to get it out of state.

Yet, Musk still lives in TX. Why? Because he knows people will still buy them, though tides may be turning.


In the history of Tesla, omg people Musk did not invent any technology ever.

He stole Tesla from its original makers. He went to court over and over again just like Don The Con actually Elon credits his court acumen to Dump.

College degree hahahahahaha Standford the DCUM school lied for him lost in court lied again lost again. Stanford is a crap school this is a fact. How they handled this situation was atrocious.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-many-failures-of-elon-musk-captured-in-one-giant-infographic-2017-05-24


Omg who cares. That's like saying Howard Hughes had no impact on aviation because he didn't invent flight and the aircraft. It takes more than just inventing something, it takes a business magnate mind to change the world with new ideas as well because you still need to commercialize and develop new inventions even if they were invented by someone else. Inventing something new is one thing, but going out raising capital, and developing the means of production on an industrial scale to get new technologies widely adopted is a whole different beast. Just because Elon didn't invent Tesla's technology doesn't mean anything. Do CEOs of pharmaceutical companies all personal invent the therapies they sell? No.

Dumb argument.


DP. I mean, so what? Lots of car makers were developing electric cars when Mush came along, they continued to develop and raise capital and "develop the means of production" to "commercialize" and launch their electric cars. Musk is special because... he's a pos.


Complete BS. Virtually no car makers before Tesla were making EVs on a large scale and were successful at getting them adopted. You have a completely warped revisionist history.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 23:03     Subject: Re:Demand collapse for Teslas

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Anonymous wrote:So glad I ignore the CEO’s politics when I choose a car. Makes life easier.

sure, life is easier when you have no ethics.

There are several car models you could get. Why does it have to be a Tesla? Because you wanted a name brand. Well, I guess jokes on you now.


VW and its other brands (Audi, Porsche, Lambo) represent much worse ethics with the awful emissions scandal. I hope you are admonishing all these vehicle owners as well


That’s WHY they’re making electric cars now, though — it’s part of their settlement of the emissions scandal.

VW/Porsche have far bigger ethical problems in their past, specifically their Nazi ties.


Ford, BMW and GM also have Nazi ties. https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-bmw-audi-chanel-porsche-brands-controversial-history-2019-8?amp

Musk is a douche today, that’s the difference.

Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 21:31     Subject: Demand collapse for Teslas

Anonymous wrote:Hey, not going to interrupt you and whatever you want to do for fun, but Tesla is tanking. Feel free to laugh at that, too. The cars are not a good investment, though.


I don’t like Musk and bought a non-Tesla EV. But NO cars are a good investment — they lose massive amounts of value as soon as you drive them off the lot. If, like me, you basically plan to keep your cars until they physically can’t be driven anymore, that’s less of a problem. But the fact that Teslas are worth less now than they were before seems like only a small consideration for anyone who has one — you’re going to lose money reselling it later no matter what Musk is or isn’t doing.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 21:27     Subject: Re:Demand collapse for Teslas

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:So glad I ignore the CEO’s politics when I choose a car. Makes life easier.

sure, life is easier when you have no ethics.

There are several car models you could get. Why does it have to be a Tesla? Because you wanted a name brand. Well, I guess jokes on you now.


VW and its other brands (Audi, Porsche, Lambo) represent much worse ethics with the awful emissions scandal. I hope you are admonishing all these vehicle owners as well


That’s WHY they’re making electric cars now, though — it’s part of their settlement of the emissions scandal.

VW/Porsche have far bigger ethical problems in their past, specifically their Nazi ties.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 20:14     Subject: Re:Demand collapse for Teslas

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Anonymous wrote:Love my Tesla


Good for you.

Sold all four of mine. Won't have my family in a Musk car much less the pieces of junk they were.

Enjoy your Japanese EV lolzzzz