Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last night's episode was strange....but Bill likely isn't dead. The show has been very good about following the game to a tee. Bill, Ellie and Joel work together in the game. We never see Bill split the pills in the bottle of wine, but the baggy of pills looks as full as when Frank gave it to him (how do they even have access to pharmaceuticals that haven't expired). We don't see him die or his body. Why would they introduce this character, played by a famous actor, only to kill him immediately? The whole thing was strange.

https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Bill

I haven't played the game so I can't comment on that, but is most definitely dead. He left a suicide note.

+1. According to that wiki, the Bill character arch ends with Ellie and Joel getting a truck and leaving town. That's exactly what happens on the show, so I don't see how/why they'd reintroduce the Bill character later.

Please don’t post spoilers based on the game— even if they may not be actual spoilers since there will be differences.

If you want to discuss ways the show has been different til now that’s one thing but posting spoilers about future eps based on what you know about the game is not cool.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beautifully done. Was not expecting such a story.

Unrelated: Ellie really annoys me.

YES.
But I think she’s supposed to?

I think so too. I don't know how much this will be addressed, but Ellie's also an orphan, basically raised in the FEDRA school, right? That doesn't particularly lend itself to well-regulated emotional adjustment.

I actually enjoyed her scenes last night re: the airplane and the car.

Anonymous wrote:Last night's episode was strange....but Bill likely isn't dead. The show has been very good about following the game to a tee. Bill, Ellie and Joel work together in the game. We never see Bill split the pills in the bottle of wine, but the baggy of pills looks as full as when Frank gave it to him (how do they even have access to pharmaceuticals that haven't expired). We don't see him die or his body. Why would they introduce this character, played by a famous actor, only to kill him immediately? The whole thing was strange.

https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Bill

I haven't played the game so I can't comment on that, but is most definitely dead. He left a suicide note.

Last night's episode was strange....but Bill likely isn't dead. The show has been very good about following the game to a tee. Bill, Ellie and Joel work together in the game. We never see Bill split the pills in the bottle of wine, but the baggy of pills looks as full as when Frank gave it to him (how do they even have access to pharmaceuticals that haven't expired). We don't see him die or his body. Why would they introduce this character, played by a famous actor, only to kill him immediately? The whole thing was strange.

https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Bill

Anonymous wrote:I loved it. I knew nothing of this video game going in, and this was an amazing episode of television, probably up there with Ozymandias.

Same PP. I'm still thinking about it and Murray Bartlett. He's been in so many great things the past year or 2 - White Lotus, Chippendales, Physical. He is just so good. He and Nick Offerman played off each other so well. It was so good.

I loved it. I knew nothing of this video game going in, and this was an amazing episode of television, probably up there with Ozymandias.

I loved it too. And we watched it with our DS 16. I was thinking - when I was 16 in the 80s this literally would never have been on any screen anywhere in the world and I'm so glad the world has changed so much that this beautiful story can play out as that - a beautiful story.

So good, agree it was one of the best episodes of tv I've ever seen. So impressive considering this is just the third episode of a new show.

Still emotional about it today.

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I also kept waiting for the other shoe to drop and felt at the end wow, how unexpected and impactful for a show like this to choose to show a happy ending (the happiest of endings available for these two). A reminder of the power of connection. I'm also sad Ellie didn't get to meet them (agree she's annoying and that she's supposed to be, teenagers are annoying! you care about them anyway, because we were once teenagers too).

That was really just shockingly well done I feel grateful to have seen it, and transparently I sometimes feel like gay/lesbian storylines like this can seem like they were chosen for diversity's sake (and I don't think it is bad to intentionally choose diversity I just think sometimes it feels less organic because its been done to check a box). But here in this story it seemed so perfectly placed, and moments made more impactful for it being gay men (like how gay marriage was still illegal when this world ended in 2003 and how Bill was so reclusive and crazy).

Just really wonderful. I imagine both men will be up for awards. Side note, way to win the apocalypse lottery Frank!

Anonymous wrote:Beautifully done. Was not expecting such a story.

Unrelated: Ellie really annoys me.

YES.
But I think she’s supposed to?

Beautifully done. Was not expecting such a story.

Unrelated: Ellie really annoys me.

So. Well. Done. ❤️

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tonight’s episode was one of the best things I have ever seen on television.

Agree. That was an amazing episode. So beautiful. I think I was not as emotionally affected as I would have been because I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop. But I am crying a little bit now.

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So disappointed they didn't get to meet Ellie.

+1

So well done

Anonymous wrote:Tonight’s episode was one of the best things I have ever seen on television.

Agree. That was an amazing episode. So beautiful. I think I was not as emotionally affected as I would have been because I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop. But I am crying a little bit now.

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So disappointed they didn't get to meet Ellie.

Anonymous wrote:Tonight’s episode was one of the best things I have ever seen on television.

It was great. I'm watching the show with my DS16 and we both loved it.