Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:32     Subject: Re:Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:The police officer - who is BIPOC - showed remarkable patience, restraint, and professionalism here.

Watch the whole video.


I did. There was no crime. Non need to detain. No need to handcuff, he was free to go.

This is why cops need to never respond to these things, they totally escalate
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:29     Subject: Re:Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

It’s so unnecessarily inflammatory that people are calling it an “execution.” A taser is supposed to be a non-lethal method. If they had wanted to “execute” him, they all had service revolvers they could have used. The fact that he died later after being tased does not make their intentions lethal.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:28     Subject: Re:Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.newsweek.com/keenan-anderson-arrest-tasering-video-viral-1773619?amp=1


Shocked and appalled by PPs defending the police action. Clearlynoverkill. The man was begging for his life. He said apK and they kept tasering him. There were six armed officers and one unarmed man on the ground.

This does not represent justified force.

Keenan may you not die in vain.

#MorePoliceTrainingNamed4Keenan


Shocked and appalled by PPs defending the police action.

Clearly police force overkill.. The man was begging for his life.

He said OK to not twisting them and they kept tasering him.

There were six armed officers and one unarmed man on the ground.

Watch the video for yourself.

I am white and this is not OK. I am not anti police or defund the police but or rain the police longer as in countries where police have good community relations because they know how how to judge when lethal force is necessary.


Weird how you reply to this post with the same sentence structure as the “op”………


I agree.

It appears more than half of this thread is OP sock-puppeting or continually responding with the same nonsensical claims.


I'm not OP and I think this was abhorrent conduct by the police.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:28     Subject: Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


How many children did he put at risk, driving around in that condition before he crashed his vehicle?


If we're talking about actions prior to the arrival of the police, then you're fine with them deciding he was a danger 15 minutes ago and executing him?


No one "executed him." He died 5 hours later, after being transported (by the authorities) to the hospital. That doesn’t mean every aspect of this encounter was handled correctly but we have to get the facts right.

"Executed" is false and not helpful.


Neither is minimizing his death, and effectively shrugging your shoulders at this.
He died due to a cardiac arrest which was clearly caused by the tasing. It may have been 5 hrs later but there is clear cause and effect. It was not necessary to tase him for as long as he did. He was out of the car, he was on the ground and subdued by multiple officers. IF 5 trained police officers do not know what to do with an unarmed, frightened man then the police have a HUGE training issue - which we have seen repeatedly.



You have zero way of knowing what his cause of death was until after the autopsy.


True.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:26     Subject: Re:Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.newsweek.com/keenan-anderson-arrest-tasering-video-viral-1773619?amp=1


Shocked and appalled by PPs defending the police action. Clearlynoverkill. The man was begging for his life. He said apK and they kept tasering him. There were six armed officers and one unarmed man on the ground.

This does not represent justified force.

Keenan may you not die in vain.

#MorePoliceTrainingNamed4Keenan


Shocked and appalled by PPs defending the police action.

Clearly police force overkill.. The man was begging for his life.

He said OK to not twisting them and they kept tasering him.

There were six armed officers and one unarmed man on the ground.

Watch the video for yourself.

I am white and this is not OK. I am not anti police or defund the police but or rain the police longer as in countries where police have good community relations because they know how how to judge when lethal force is necessary.


Weird how you reply to this post with the same sentence structure as the “op”………


Not the OP - was correcting my own post

But I agree with OP and others who argue this excessive police force is plain wrong.

You don’t have to be black to recognize that many POC have valid reasons to fear for their lives when driving while black. I doubt a white man who ran a red light or failed to indicate would fear these kinds of unintended consequences.

I can’t imagine how painful it is for black mothers to have to prepare their children for these dark possibilities when going about every day life.

I am pro police because obviously we need them - but all for better and longer training - preferably named for victims of driving while black.
That would be a win win for a tragic ongoing situation.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:25     Subject: Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


How many children did he put at risk, driving around in that condition before he crashed his vehicle?


If we're talking about actions prior to the arrival of the police, then you're fine with them deciding he was a danger 15 minutes ago and executing him?


No one "executed him." He died 5 hours later, after being transported (by the authorities) to the hospital. That doesn’t mean every aspect of this encounter was handled correctly but we have to get the facts right.

"Executed" is false and not helpful.


Neither is minimizing his death, and effectively shrugging your shoulders at this.
He died due to a cardiac arrest which was clearly caused by the tasing. It may have been 5 hrs later but there is clear cause and effect. It was not necessary to tase him for as long as he did. He was out of the car, he was on the ground and subdued by multiple officers. IF 5 trained police officers do not know what to do with an unarmed, frightened man then the police have a HUGE training issue - which we have seen repeatedly.



You have zero way of knowing what his cause of death was until after the autopsy.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:23     Subject: Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Did you watch the full bodycam video? I suggest you do this.


This changed everything. Watch the video BEFORE you judge here.

The police acted professionally here, and this death was NOT their fault!


I watched and saw the police tase a man to death who was behaving erratically but was not violent or aggressive.


He died 5 hours after being transported to the hospital, so he wasn’t actually tased to death. That doesn’t mean this was handled correctly but we have to get the facts right if we want to be heard on all sides.


Pedantic.


You don't think he died 5 hours after his interaction with police at a hospital (npt in custody) an important fact in this case?
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:19     Subject: Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

The police made this a crisis by framing the incremental ways in which he failed to respond immediately to their orders into an emergency requiring Tasing.

They lost track of the fact that the entire reason they were interacting with him was because *he had asked for their help.*

Absolutely disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:17     Subject: Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.


Just stop this right now. He was in the wrong and people like you will never see that.


DP. He should most likely be in jail. Alive. I hope you can see the difference between the two


I hope YOU can see the difference between someone following the rules and this guy. Why can’t people just sit down when requested? He ran into the middle of the road and didn’t follow instructions. I guess if he got hit by a car you’d blame that on police as well. Just and fyi the rest of us are TIRED of fake racism. I’m the LA poster and at the protest location in my neighborhood) where there is always someone protesting (and often I will honk in agreement) there was one person there yesterday with their police brutality sign. One. The rest of us understand this is NOT George Floyd. Stop trying to make fetch happen. You’re not going to spread lies about my city. Gtfo.


So if your loved one gets killed by police for a traffic stop, you're fine with it? Because he didn't follow the rules? The punishment is death if you don't listen.

I have a feeling that you don't think the punishment is death when it's you and yours. That's not fake racism.


Do I think this is okay? No, obviously. But I would also be able to see, after watching the video, the part my loved one played in this situation. But you only see racism and police brutality in everything. You can’t see what other people see, and maybe that’s because of your own lives experience. The rest of us don’t see what you are seeing.


That is because you are a white woman, and you sit comfortably in the fact that this will likely never happen to you and yours. So you can sit in your bubble and make judgements knowing that you will suffer nothing near the same.


‘Make judgements’ ummm how do you know this poster is a white woman?


There are about 1000 cues in her language that would indicate the same.
I don't know how anyone watching that video can feel anything other than sorry for Keeanan. He was never a threat. He had his hands up the whole time, was engaging, and was clearly scared. He complied with the officer in the beginning then realized that something could happen to him and wanted to be in public view in case something went sideways. He needed someone to talk him down not 5 officers on top of him tasing him. This was a clear training failure.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:13     Subject: Re:Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.newsweek.com/keenan-anderson-arrest-tasering-video-viral-1773619?amp=1


Shocked and appalled by PPs defending the police action. Clearlynoverkill. The man was begging for his life. He said apK and they kept tasering him. There were six armed officers and one unarmed man on the ground.

This does not represent justified force.

Keenan may you not die in vain.

#MorePoliceTrainingNamed4Keenan


Shocked and appalled by PPs defending the police action.

Clearly police force overkill.. The man was begging for his life.

He said OK to not twisting them and they kept tasering him.

There were six armed officers and one unarmed man on the ground.

Watch the video for yourself.

I am white and this is not OK. I am not anti police or defund the police but or rain the police longer as in countries where police have good community relations because they know how how to judge when lethal force is necessary.


Weird how you reply to this post with the same sentence structure as the “op”………
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:12     Subject: Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.


Just stop this right now. He was in the wrong and people like you will never see that.


DP. He should most likely be in jail. Alive. I hope you can see the difference between the two


I hope YOU can see the difference between someone following the rules and this guy. Why can’t people just sit down when requested? He ran into the middle of the road and didn’t follow instructions. I guess if he got hit by a car you’d blame that on police as well. Just and fyi the rest of us are TIRED of fake racism. I’m the LA poster and at the protest location in my neighborhood) where there is always someone protesting (and often I will honk in agreement) there was one person there yesterday with their police brutality sign. One. The rest of us understand this is NOT George Floyd. Stop trying to make fetch happen. You’re not going to spread lies about my city. Gtfo.


So if your loved one gets killed by police for a traffic stop, you're fine with it? Because he didn't follow the rules? The punishment is death if you don't listen.

I have a feeling that you don't think the punishment is death when it's you and yours. That's not fake racism.


Do I think this is okay? No, obviously. But I would also be able to see, after watching the video, the part my loved one played in this situation. But you only see racism and police brutality in everything. You can’t see what other people see, and maybe that’s because of your own lives experience. The rest of us don’t see what you are seeing.


That is because you are a white woman, and you sit comfortably in the fact that this will likely never happen to you and yours. So you can sit in your bubble and make judgements knowing that you will suffer nothing near the same.


‘Make judgements’ ummm how do you know this poster is a white woman?
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:09     Subject: Re:Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:https://www.newsweek.com/keenan-anderson-arrest-tasering-video-viral-1773619?amp=1


Shocked and appalled by PPs defending the police action. Clearlynoverkill. The man was begging for his life. He said apK and they kept tasering him. There were six armed officers and one unarmed man on the ground.

This does not represent justified force.

Keenan may you not die in vain.

#MorePoliceTrainingNamed4Keenan


Shocked and appalled by PPs defending the police action.

Clearly police force overkill.. The man was begging for his life.

He said OK to not twisting them and they kept tasering him.

There were six armed officers and one unarmed man on the ground.

Watch the video for yourself.

I am white and this is not OK. I am not anti police or defund the police but or rain the police longer as in countries where police have good community relations because they know how how to judge when lethal force is necessary.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:07     Subject: Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.


Just stop this right now. He was in the wrong and people like you will never see that.


DP. He should most likely be in jail. Alive. I hope you can see the difference between the two


I hope YOU can see the difference between someone following the rules and this guy. Why can’t people just sit down when requested? He ran into the middle of the road and didn’t follow instructions. I guess if he got hit by a car you’d blame that on police as well. Just and fyi the rest of us are TIRED of fake racism. I’m the LA poster and at the protest location in my neighborhood) where there is always someone protesting (and often I will honk in agreement) there was one person there yesterday with their police brutality sign. One. The rest of us understand this is NOT George Floyd. Stop trying to make fetch happen. You’re not going to spread lies about my city. Gtfo.


So if your loved one gets killed by police for a traffic stop, you're fine with it? Because he didn't follow the rules? The punishment is death if you don't listen.

I have a feeling that you don't think the punishment is death when it's you and yours. That's not fake racism.


Do I think this is okay? No, obviously. But I would also be able to see, after watching the video, the part my loved one played in this situation. But you only see racism and police brutality in everything. You can’t see what other people see, and maybe that’s because of your own lives experience. The rest of us don’t see what you are seeing.


That is because you are a white woman, and you sit comfortably in the fact that this will likely never happen to you and yours. So you can sit in your bubble and make judgements knowing that you will suffer nothing near the same.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:07     Subject: Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If people agreed with you LA would have been protesting for days. It’s not.


They are dealing with other crises right now and distracted . Truth will out.


LA just elected a female black mayor. Keep going.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 13:06     Subject: Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The New York post showed the entire video. If the man had sat down as requested he would still be alive. Stop spreading this. I live in LA and we don’t need people like you with your fake videos not posting the ENTIRE truth.

So he deserves a death sentence for that? People like you are the dregs of humankind.


Lol I’m fine responding here. Enjoy trying to make this about the police. This time, it’s not, so keep yelling into the wind .

Yeah, we know you and your ilk enjoy seeing innocent people killed.