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Anonymous wrote:My Southern California kid goes to UChicago and I got her a SAD light; lots of sizes and types available on amazon. Non-issue but important to know about it.

There is something else, though, that I've never heard of until lately...that is Vitamin D can be (absorbed or created, not sure which) through the skin via sunlight, or in our food. However; if your body is used to the sun and absorbing it that way, it doesn't "know" how to switch to absobring from food, so kids from more sunnier climates can get a severe deficiency and need to take supplements.

(sorry I'm not more precise on this; it's from my friend, who's son who went from SoCal to upstate NY--but you get the gist )

+1. This sounds like why Judd Apatow's LA-raised daughter left Northwestern. Chicago has a lack of sunshine and the cold is on a different level.

She mostly left because she got a part in Euphoria.

She literally went on one of the late night show's and said it was because it was so cold and depressing.

Who cares about one nepo-baby’s opinion?

"There are people all over the world who are fine with cold weather, some of it even worse than what's in Michigan. I grew up in Ontario, and didn't mind the cold, because I enjoyed winter activities like hockey and sledding.

This will probably come as a shock to you, but not everyone shares your opinion on things like winter weather."

The OP and this thread is about warning students who are NOT from the upper Midwest about the winter conditions. Not sure how your experience as someone who grew up there not having the choice about whether to live there or not is relevant. And while people may have different opinions on how easy it is to schlep a baby in and out of the house in icy conditions while there's cold rain mixed with snow flying sideways thanks to the high winds, that doesn't make it any easier for a 18-yr-old HS senior to determine how they'll be able to adjust. Spending weekends in ski gear on Mammoth Mountain or in Vail doesn't give a West Coast kid raised in sunshine a good sense of whether they'll be happy living in a place like Ann Arbor for four winters, but most teens are naïve enough to think that it does. The OP raises an important warning flag for parents whose kids are making decisions about where to attend college.

Anonymous wrote:"This. Let them enjoy the swamps, humidity, gigantic bugs, and hurricanes in the South."

You aren't going to convince anybody by spouting off falsehoods. Do you really not realize that the majority of people in the country don't endure terrible weather conditions? Very few people live in hurricane-prone areas or near swamps. There's plenty of humidity in the south and on the East Coast, so I'll grant you that. But the entire western part of the country has no or low humidity, which is why they're able to use swamp coolers instead AC from El Paso to the Pacific Ocean. Get out of your lake effect and blizzard-ridden bubble. There is life without crazy high heating bills and fear of frostbite if your car breaks down. Most Americans have never heard of the concept of the "spring thaw." Try it! Or just ask any of your many neighbors who spend the winter in Florida or Texas what it's like to not shovel sidewalks every year.

OK then, the West can enjoy their earthquakes, deserts, droughts, and lack of water. In fact, maybe we Midwesterners might so generously lend all of the states where stuck up snobs like you live even though you have mocked us for years. Maybe we will even let you move here when it gets too hot in paradise. Maybe, we shall see.

Anonymous wrote:"This. Let them enjoy the swamps, humidity, gigantic bugs, and hurricanes in the South."

You aren't going to convince anybody by spouting off falsehoods. Do you really not realize that the majority of people in the country don't endure terrible weather conditions? Very few people live in hurricane-prone areas or near swamps. There's plenty of humidity in the south and on the East Coast, so I'll grant you that. But the entire western part of the country has no or low humidity, which is why they're able to use swamp coolers instead AC from El Paso to the Pacific Ocean. Get out of your lake effect and blizzard-ridden bubble. There is life without crazy high heating bills and fear of frostbite if your car breaks down. Most Americans have never heard of the concept of the "spring thaw." Try it! Or just ask any of your many neighbors who spend the winter in Florida or Texas what it's like to not shovel sidewalks every year.

Speaking of falsehoods, none of these statements are true.

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Anonymous wrote:My Southern California kid goes to UChicago and I got her a SAD light; lots of sizes and types available on amazon. Non-issue but important to know about it.

There is something else, though, that I've never heard of until lately...that is Vitamin D can be (absorbed or created, not sure which) through the skin via sunlight, or in our food. However; if your body is used to the sun and absorbing it that way, it doesn't "know" how to switch to absobring from food, so kids from more sunnier climates can get a severe deficiency and need to take supplements.

(sorry I'm not more precise on this; it's from my friend, who's son who went from SoCal to upstate NY--but you get the gist )

+1. This sounds like why Judd Apatow's LA-raised daughter left Northwestern. Chicago has a lack of sunshine and the cold is on a different level.

She mostly left because she got a part in Euphoria.

She literally went on one of the late night show's and said it was because it was so cold and depressing.

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Anonymous wrote:My Michigan grad friend who is blindly super rah rah and fails to see any shortcoming with the school has never been to California or any place in the Southwest USA. Also has never once been south of Virginia. Literally does not know what she is missing in terms of sunshine and comfortable weather. Yes, many places have seasons even if their winter doesn't involve blizzards and last for almost half the year, despite what some Michiganders think. In contrast, my MI grad friends who come from warmer climates will quickly acknowledge the huge downside to living in those weather conditions, and they got the heck out of the state as soon as they graduated. For these people, the benefits of the school outweigh its downsides and these people offer a balanced view on what it's like to be a student there when asked. But others, especially those born and raised in Michigan, tend to be in some sort of cult mindset about the place and that is what I think people react to in these threads. If you can't even realize and acknowledge that the weather sucks, your opinion about what it's like to be a student there isn't really worth much.

There are people all over the world who are fine with cold weather, some of it even worse than what's in Michigan. I grew up in Ontario, and didn't mind the cold, because I enjoyed winter activities like hockey and sledding.

This will probably come as a shock to you, but not everyone shares your opinion on things like winter weather.

This. I actually don’t like hot weather and year round sunshine. It is highly overrated. There is nothing stranger to me than celebrating Thanksgiving and Christmas in 80 degree weather. No thanks! Some of us like more variation in seasons. And by the way, Midwestern summers and falls are gorgeous and perfect and beat the pants out of those same seasons in the South.

Between the red states and the abortion free states and now, the winter weather states, all of DCUM a will be attending UMCP.

"This. Let them enjoy the swamps, humidity, gigantic bugs, and hurricanes in the South."

You aren't going to convince anybody by spouting off falsehoods. Do you really not realize that the majority of people in the country don't endure terrible weather conditions? Very few people live in hurricane-prone areas or near swamps. There's plenty of humidity in the south and on the East Coast, so I'll grant you that. But the entire western part of the country has no or low humidity, which is why they're able to use swamp coolers instead AC from El Paso to the Pacific Ocean. Get out of your lake effect and blizzard-ridden bubble. There is life without crazy high heating bills and fear of frostbite if your car breaks down. Most Americans have never heard of the concept of the "spring thaw." Try it! Or just ask any of your many neighbors who spend the winter in Florida or Texas what it's like to not shovel sidewalks every year.

Anonymous wrote:My Michigan grad friend who is blindly super rah rah and fails to see any shortcoming with the school has never been to California or any place in the Southwest USA. Also has never once been south of Virginia. Literally does not know what she is missing in terms of sunshine and comfortable weather. Yes, many places have seasons even if their winter doesn't involve blizzards and last for almost half the year, despite what some Michiganders think. In contrast, my MI grad friends who come from warmer climates will quickly acknowledge the huge downside to living in those weather conditions, and they got the heck out of the state as soon as they graduated. For these people, the benefits of the school outweigh its downsides and these people offer a balanced view on what it's like to be a student there when asked. But others, especially those born and raised in Michigan, tend to be in some sort of cult mindset about the place and that is what I think people react to in these threads. If you can't even realize and acknowledge that the weather sucks, your opinion about what it's like to be a student there isn't really worth much.

There are people all over the world who are fine with cold weather, some of it even worse than what's in Michigan. I grew up in Ontario, and didn't mind the cold, because I enjoyed winter activities like hockey and sledding.

This will probably come as a shock to you, but not everyone shares your opinion on things like winter weather.

I was certain DD would hate Michigan winters so I essentially forced a visit in the cold, dreary months. Her response? Meh. So what.

She is now a junior and loves, loves, Michigan. Is she thrilled about the weather? Probably not. But it seems like a non-issue to her.

To each his/her/their own!!!

Wow, someone is really salty that her kid didn’t get into Michigan.

Anonymous wrote:Most desirable country in the world to live are the coldest.
Sweden, Norway, Finland
They will be fine.

Yes. If your kids attended the University of Lund they would love watching the sun rise today at 8:30 and setting at 3:59. Seriously, it’s a nice place and somehow thousands of college kids there get by just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:My Southern California kid goes to UChicago and I got her a SAD light; lots of sizes and types available on amazon. Non-issue but important to know about it.

There is something else, though, that I've never heard of until lately...that is Vitamin D can be (absorbed or created, not sure which) through the skin via sunlight, or in our food. However; if your body is used to the sun and absorbing it that way, it doesn't "know" how to switch to absobring from food, so kids from more sunnier climates can get a severe deficiency and need to take supplements.

(sorry I'm not more precise on this; it's from my friend, who's son who went from SoCal to upstate NY--but you get the gist )

+1. This sounds like why Judd Apatow's LA-raised daughter left Northwestern. Chicago has a lack of sunshine and the cold is on a different level.

She mostly left because she got a part in Euphoria.

Anonymous wrote:My Michigan grad friend who is blindly super rah rah and fails to see any shortcoming with the school has never been to California or any place in the Southwest USA. Also has never once been south of Virginia. Literally does not know what she is missing in terms of sunshine and comfortable weather. Yes, many places have seasons even if their winter doesn't involve blizzards and last for almost half the year, despite what some Michiganders think. In contrast, my MI grad friends who come from warmer climates will quickly acknowledge the huge downside to living in those weather conditions, and they got the heck out of the state as soon as they graduated. For these people, the benefits of the school outweigh its downsides and these people offer a balanced view on what it's like to be a student there when asked. But others, especially those born and raised in Michigan, tend to be in some sort of cult mindset about the place and that is what I think people react to in these threads. If you can't even realize and acknowledge that the weather sucks, your opinion about what it's like to be a student there isn't really worth much.

When it starts hitting 120 degrees in Florida due to climate change, we will see how unpopular Michigan weather is.

Instead you want them to go to states where women are second class citizens. Take the cold with depression any day over that shit.

By the way, the Univ of Florida never has reported all suicides.They always underreport.

My freshman year on my floor, sophomore year one floor down, and junior year at my apartment complex.

My point is UF didn't add these to their numbers. They have always hidden the amount and even with 50,000 students that number is high.