Anonymous
Post 01/15/2023 16:40     Subject: Re:Summer swim -- are we allowed to take a vacation?
Yes you are 100 percent allowed to take vacation. I wouldn't entertain any other answer and refuse to read any responses because since this has gone to 5 pages people must be saying some bonkers things.

Do what works for your family. Summer swim is for fun.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2023 07:38     Subject: Summer swim -- are we allowed to take a vacation?
We’re at a low ranking division. My kids are mediocre but last year we took a week off for a family vacation. The coach was a little upset but then the next day he made an announcement to everyone to please refrain from taking vacation during summer swim as the kids lose valuable practice. He said he has not been on a vacation himself in June or July for the past 17 years. In any case, one kid to still go to divisionals so it didn’t matter. I’d definitely choose vacation over week of practice. Oh and while on vacation, my kids were swimming laps at the hotel pool for fun anyways so no harm done.
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Post 01/14/2023 20:24     Subject: Summer swim -- are we allowed to take a vacation?
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Anonymous wrote:If your kids aren't good, you can take a vacation. If your kids are good, expect people to give you the side eye if you skip meets.

That’s ridiculous. If anything there will be parents glad their kid then has a chance at A meets. We had club kids skip meets for PVS LC meets and no one looked sideways at those kids.


PVS LC meets were always on a different day than summer swim meets last year. They did that intentionally so they wouldn’t screw up summer swim.

The last Saturday meet conflicted with PVS LC champs. The 2 PVS LC Opens were on Sundays only, but there were other PVS LC meets that happened on Saturdays and Sundays.


Are you thinking of All-Stars? I know that conflicted with the LC championship

12U LC champs were July 14-17, the last summer team meet was July 16.


But it was local and Saturday events didn’t start until 3pm, intentionally well after NVSL meets would end. Events the other days started in the morning. Our club had a few swimmers going to the PV meet, but all first went to the NVSL meet in the morning

That’s great for your summer team, I guess? We had club kids miss meets for club swimming events. It was not a big deal at all. The summer swim obsession in this area is wild, it’s a 6-8 week no-cut rec sport for crying out loud.


That's part of what makes it fun. All the kids in the family can do it, on the same team. 8 year olds are as important to the team as 18 year olds. And yeah... people care how the team does, because it's dumb to spend so much time practicing for something and then just blow it off.

You do know the club kids have spent 10 months practicing in the lead-up to LC champs, so what would be more ridiculous to blow off? 6-8 weeks is not so much time. The kids could care less if a teammate misses a meet because of another commitment, be it a vacation or a club meet, it’s a weird parent thing. Adults should not care so much about a 2 month long rec sport.


We’re not talking about PVS Champs. We’re talking about ditching out for a vacation.

It’s not ditching out, it’s taking a vacation that happens to fall during a 6 week RECREATION sport. All of you NVSL people need to get over yourselves and find a hobby of your own becuase you are completely insufferable.
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Post 01/14/2023 18:04     Subject: Summer swim -- are we allowed to take a vacation?
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Anonymous wrote:If your kids aren't good, you can take a vacation. If your kids are good, expect people to give you the side eye if you skip meets.

That’s ridiculous. If anything there will be parents glad their kid then has a chance at A meets. We had club kids skip meets for PVS LC meets and no one looked sideways at those kids.


PVS LC meets were always on a different day than summer swim meets last year. They did that intentionally so they wouldn’t screw up summer swim.

The last Saturday meet conflicted with PVS LC champs. The 2 PVS LC Opens were on Sundays only, but there were other PVS LC meets that happened on Saturdays and Sundays.


Are you thinking of All-Stars? I know that conflicted with the LC championship

12U LC champs were July 14-17, the last summer team meet was July 16.


But it was local and Saturday events didn’t start until 3pm, intentionally well after NVSL meets would end. Events the other days started in the morning. Our club had a few swimmers going to the PV meet, but all first went to the NVSL meet in the morning

That’s great for your summer team, I guess? We had club kids miss meets for club swimming events. It was not a big deal at all. The summer swim obsession in this area is wild, it’s a 6-8 week no-cut rec sport for crying out loud.


That's part of what makes it fun. All the kids in the family can do it, on the same team. 8 year olds are as important to the team as 18 year olds. And yeah... people care how the team does, because it's dumb to spend so much time practicing for something and then just blow it off.

You do know the club kids have spent 10 months practicing in the lead-up to LC champs, so what would be more ridiculous to blow off? 6-8 weeks is not so much time. The kids could care less if a teammate misses a meet because of another commitment, be it a vacation or a club meet, it’s a weird parent thing. Adults should not care so much about a 2 month long rec sport.


We’re not talking about PVS Champs. We’re talking about ditching out for a vacation.
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Post 01/14/2023 11:46     Subject: Summer swim -- are we allowed to take a vacation?
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Part of it is the culture that NVSL board has created. It is rigid, very rigid. They act like they are USAswimming when they are not. I love when we are up against teams with cheering coaches that act goofy. But I have heard coaches chastise other coaches for acting that way. Also I think that NoVa adds to it but I don't hear the same complaints in the Colonial League.


Do you think this is an NVSL Board thing or a divisional one? I posted earlier that we have been in Divisions 17-14 and the experience hasn’t been as you described. We are in W. Springfield.


This is a board thing within the division the pools dictate the environment of the team
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Post 01/14/2023 10:56     Subject: Summer swim -- are we allowed to take a vacation?
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Anonymous wrote:Why is NVSL so much crazier than the other area summer leagues?


Part of it is the culture that NVSL board has created. It is rigid, very rigid. They act like they are USAswimming when they are not. I love when we are up against teams with cheering coaches that act goofy. But I have heard coaches chastise other coaches for acting that way. Also I think that NoVa adds to it but I don't hear the same complaints in the Colonial League.


Do you think this is an NVSL Board thing or a divisional one? I posted earlier that we have been in Divisions 17-14 and the experience hasn’t been as you described. We are in W. Springfield.
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Post 01/14/2023 07:36     Subject: Summer swim -- are we allowed to take a vacation?
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My kid was sad to lose her relay teammate for a vacation.


I'm sure she was but put this in real perspective. It can be an intense and emotional season but it's a summer activity. There is no money involved. This is not the state championships where kids' college scholarships are on the line. Most kids on most teams never swim those A meets. Most families do not prioritize summer swim above all else.

These kids all deserve the best possible summer, and sometimes that might mean a family vacation, an amazing sleepaway camp or something else trumps summer swim. They have 12yrs' worth of summers to participate. It's okay if they miss a week.

Signed,
Team Rep whose family does prioritize summer swim but recognizes that's a personal choice


Amen.


Well said, thank you.