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Anonymous wrote:I tip. My DS worked as a barista, and tips were a huge part of her pay. Her base pay was crap, and she could not pay her rent without tips. I pay 15% for takeout, and 20% in restaurants. I tip $1 for my lattes, nothing for pouring me a cup of coffee.

Why didn't your DS change her [sic] job to a higher paying job, if she was unable to pay rent? Why didn't she move to a less expensive rental?

Why is the coffee-buying public expected to step in and take the place of her employer in paying livable wages? So many questions

Exactly. +100000

If the daughter can't afford rent because her job paid crap, then she should have found work elsewhere that would pay her better to allow her to afford rent. The place where she worked would then desperate for labor and would be forced to raise wages appropriately so people could afford rent. The fact that the store where she worked had an option for tipping allowed the store to continue to avoid paying liveable wages, and pushed the burden of compensation onto the customer, which is completely asinine.

You go to the store, buy a coffee, and that's it. It should be the end of the transaction, and there should be no expectations for the customer to compensate the employee. Such a moronic system in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:Leave it to dc to raise the pay of crappy waiters/bartenders and lower the pay of great waiters/bartenders.

Restaurants should just double their prices. Give the people what they want… higher prices and communism level motivation.

At least with higher prices I can see the final price and decide whether or not it is worth it. Enough of this stupid ass charades of tipping culture that makes absolutely zero sense.

WTF? You have the prices. If you don’t know how to calculate 20% so you can “see the final price” before ordering, I can teach you.

Dumb logic. Who the F deserves a 20% tip for being a cashier, scooping your ice cream, or carrying your bag? They get wages. A waiter gets a 20% tip because they make below minimum wage. So many others already get wages, so no, I will not tip on top of that for doing your job. Why do you tip the cashier who gets a wage yet you don't tip plumber who cares mean to unclog your drain? Both do their jobs for a wage. Your logic is stupid and exactly why we have this toxic and dumb tipping culture. It is not up to customers to pay the wages of employees, period.

Anonymous wrote:I started a new job recently, and it pays a good wage. I was talking to someone who has worked there since I was in high school and how he earned a little over $3 foot the same job at that time. I talked to someone else who started there around the time I started my first job and we both earned $4.25 which was minimum wage—in 1990. Minimum wage now is $7.50? In 30 years, minimum wage has gone up $3 unless you live in a progressive state where it’s $15 or more. So if e we want to stop tipping culture, we need to raise minimum wage first—it’s barely gone up since I worked my first job about 32 years ago.

This. Most DCUMers wouldn’t let their child babysit for $10/hour, yet they think minimum wage is an appropriate salary for other people.

I started a new job recently, and it pays a good wage. I was talking to someone who has worked there since I was in high school and how he earned a little over $3 foot the same job at that time. I talked to someone else who started there around the time I started my first job and we both earned $4.25 which was minimum wage—in 1990. Minimum wage now is $7.50? In 30 years, minimum wage has gone up $3 unless you live in a progressive state where it’s $15 or more. So if e we want to stop tipping culture, we need to raise minimum wage first—it’s barely gone up since I worked my first job about 32 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:The last time I picked up pizza, cashier swiveled the payment screen. I hit zero for tip. I was watching him. His lips tightened.

Seriously? I'm not going back because I'm afraid they're going to spit on my food or something, since I didn't give the cashier a tip.

Oh please. You’re paranoid. No one’s “lips tightened.”

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/business/tips-coffee-ice-cream-touch-screens-ctrp/index.html

I’m always a 20 + tipper to servers, but I’m with OP tipping at every small service when I’m getting just a coffee is getting out of hand, and I’m hitting none as well.

Why not go out less, buy less, but tip well when you do go out. This going often and not tipping or tipping little is against the workers, not the business.
Amazing how the little man gets screwed over and over again. If less people come, but tip more, we are able to keep only the good workers. If business can't handle less spenders, they can close.

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Anonymous wrote:Even the *way* we tip actually makes no sense at all. We're not tipping based on the amount of work (or service) provided, but on the cost of service. Your $150 a cut hairdresser is not working hard to do your hair than your $50 a cut hairdresser, but if you go by % you are tipping a lot more. Ditto for servers--it always annoyed me when I was one. If I have a table full of people drinking water and iced tea, and I have to run back and forth a zillion times for refills vs a table of full of same# of people who order one cocktail a piece and never ask for anything else, guess who is more work? Guess whose bill is much higher, and then the corresponding tip? It's stupid.

I agree with this and I usually correct for it and overtip if I’m not drinking or just have an appetizer.

Same (because I actually PREFER water, so that's what I drink). I tip as if that water was a glass of red.

Conversely, it is just as easy to do service for a $40 bottle of wine / 4 ppl as it is to do service for a $200 bottle / 4 ppl. So, on the rare occasions we splurge on the single bottle for the table, Server Susan isn't getting 28% of the $200. Sorry not sorry.

-- waited tables for 8 yrs in college / law school

Great, but did you skip math in law school? High school? Susan has to tip out food runner (even if you don't eat), busser and bartender based on the $200 bottle of wine. Susan just worked for free of possible paid others to work on your table based on the % she needs to tip out. Why didn't you get a $150-$170 wine an leave space for tip. The s_it tastes the same.
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Anonymous wrote:I never jumped on that bandwagon anyway.

And I get annoyed 20% is the norm for restaurant service.

+1

Total b*llsh*t. I will tip 15% and no further - I am willing to help out, but I'm not going to enable a corrupt system.

Anonymous wrote:I was at Newark Airport this week and had to grab a sandwich from one of those CIBO grab and go places. There was one person stocking the shelves but the store was otherwise unstaffed. I paid $13 for a 2/10 quality sandwich, checked myself out (self check was only option), and the screen default to 18% tip. I wanted to scream. No one spoke to me the whole time I was in there. Wtf is the money even going?!

Yeah I definitely would have changed that to zero or “no tip”. And never gone back.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/business/tips-coffee-ice-cream-touch-screens-ctrp/index.html

I like this artcle..

I was at Newark Airport this week and had to grab a sandwich from one of those CIBO grab and go places. There was one person stocking the shelves but the store was otherwise unstaffed. I paid $13 for a 2/10 quality sandwich, checked myself out (self check was only option), and the screen default to 18% tip. I wanted to scream. No one spoke to me the whole time I was in there. Wtf is the money even going?!

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Anonymous wrote:Panera claims they can’t turn off the option. I wait in line to order my food, I pick it up when it’s ready, get my own drink, and bus my own table. What am I tipping for? Pay your employees better.

Just put zero and move on. This is not hard.

I didn’t say it was hard. It’s rude.

For most of us it barely registers. You’re looking for offense. Just sign it and turn the thing around.

Anonymous wrote:I tip. My DS worked as a barista, and tips were a huge part of her pay. Her base pay was crap, and she could not pay her rent without tips. I pay 15% for takeout, and 20% in restaurants. I tip $1 for my lattes, nothing for pouring me a cup of coffee.

Why didn't your DS change her [sic] job to a higher paying job, if she was unable to pay rent? Why didn't she move to a less expensive rental?

Why is the coffee-buying public expected to step in and take the place of her employer in paying livable wages? So many questions

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Anonymous wrote:Panera claims they can’t turn off the option. I wait in line to order my food, I pick it up when it’s ready, get my own drink, and bus my own table. What am I tipping for? Pay your employees better.

Just put zero and move on. This is not hard.

I didn’t say it was hard. It’s rude.