Anonymous
Post 12/23/2022 15:48     Subject: Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait, people still test for Covid?


RIGHT!


Why wouldn't you test if you have symptoms and are sick? I know you all aren't alone in thinking that but that is irresponsible when there is still so much sickness around.


Why would you test for Covid? Are you suggesting that if you’re sick, but are negative for Covid, then you can carry on like normal? Otherwise, how are you expecting it to affect behavior?


Because if you have COVID you need to isolate at least 5 days (in our family we wait longer if rapid test isn't negative yet by 5 days.) With other illnesses we go back to work/school a day after we're better, or for mild colds don't stay home at all.

Do you seriously not test anymore? Do you not act any differently if you're contagious with COVID that can hospitalize and kill people you spread it to, versus having a cold that just runs the risk of giving someone the sniffles? That's... a really interesting set of morals you've got there.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:01     Subject: Re:Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid's teacher just caught it. Pre-existing conditions, begged kids to mask in their class, had an air purifier, etc. It breaks my heart that some of you have raised your kids to be so terrible.

I bet there's a fairly overlapping ven diagram with the anti maskers and the pro BcC binder club too.


Was the teacher wearing a high quality mask? Both at school and elsewhere?


Masks aren't perfect, that's why it's better when everyone wears them.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 09:56     Subject: Re:Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:My kid's teacher just caught it. Pre-existing conditions, begged kids to mask in their class, had an air purifier, etc. It breaks my heart that some of you have raised your kids to be so terrible.

I bet there's a fairly overlapping ven diagram with the anti maskers and the pro BcC binder club too.


Was the teacher wearing a high quality mask? Both at school and elsewhere?
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 09:53     Subject: Re:Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP. I stayed quiet for a bit to see what conversations took place and I noticed two things.

1. Totally glossed over the point that last January required shutting down schools due to sick teachers, staff and bus drivers. The point was that schools would have to shut down again if it's as bad as last year, so say all you want how you need schools open. But a school is only a building. Without teachers and bus drivers, it's really not a school.

2. No. MCPS is not telling the truth. Multiple infections occurred. Infections were tested. Parents were notified (they had to be - the school couldn't conceal it - it was way too visible an issue). I took another capture of the reported numbers (again, that claims to show the last seven days worth of data). Yes, I have the proof, so I'm pretty comfortable that no one at MCPS would be dumb enough to challenge it or claim I'm not telling the truth since others also know. But whatever. Keep telling yourself whatever little white lie helps you sleep at night.

I get the people who are clinging to the idea there's no issue. I don't want there to be an issue either. But I took a hard look at the numbers.

https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiMDA1MDhjYjUtMTNmYS00MjBlLWIxNWMtM2UyN2E0ODNiYjAyIiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSectionffca70206ad46cd2c9dc

Anyone notice anything unusual about today's data and the exact same time period last year? It's the same pre-Christmas bump, but this year we're higher.

If we're very lucky, maybe it's a fluke and there will be no massive January spike. But since the "tripledemic" is already a thing, if it happens, will you all be blogging how no one could have predicted the issue?

Please.


If they sent out notifications to parents, then it sure doesn’t sound like they’re concealing it.


Op what do you expect the dashboard to accomplish? It didn’t change anything last year. And what motive would the school have to lie about it as you suspect? I think a lot of students and teachers are masking now, I don’t think any responsible person is willing to force virtual learning again given the toll on the kids. You seem to see a massive conspiracy here but I’m not clear that there’s any high stakes decisions that would be affected by your claims. We’d probably be better off handing out free N95 masks in classes with those resources rather than maintaining the dashboards.


Yes, the dashboards are an indicator to some (conciencious) people who actually do change their behavior when they are aware there is an ongoing issue. Other parents might (unlike a self-centered person like yourself) actually may encourage their kids to mask if they know there is an issue.

But it's clear exactly what you are, so my expectations for people like you are not high at all. If there was a another serious outbreak, you wouldn't care, would you? If a senior teacher died, it's just accidental - not your fault, right? No worries - there are a lot of people like you in DC.


But how is the dashboard useful to those people when the vast majority of cases are never identified on it? And I'm not talking about the absurd conspiracy theory that there's a cover-up. Most cases in kids are effectively asymptomatic, and likely are never even identified by the affected person. Of those that do get sick, many won't think to test. Of those that do test, many won't bother to report a positive test.

I don't see how the dashboard is useful even to those particularly scared of covid.


It’s not useful. It’s just being used as a prop by PP for another whiny rant.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 07:54     Subject: Re:Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP. I stayed quiet for a bit to see what conversations took place and I noticed two things.

1. Totally glossed over the point that last January required shutting down schools due to sick teachers, staff and bus drivers. The point was that schools would have to shut down again if it's as bad as last year, so say all you want how you need schools open. But a school is only a building. Without teachers and bus drivers, it's really not a school.

2. No. MCPS is not telling the truth. Multiple infections occurred. Infections were tested. Parents were notified (they had to be - the school couldn't conceal it - it was way too visible an issue). I took another capture of the reported numbers (again, that claims to show the last seven days worth of data). Yes, I have the proof, so I'm pretty comfortable that no one at MCPS would be dumb enough to challenge it or claim I'm not telling the truth since others also know. But whatever. Keep telling yourself whatever little white lie helps you sleep at night.

I get the people who are clinging to the idea there's no issue. I don't want there to be an issue either. But I took a hard look at the numbers.

https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiMDA1MDhjYjUtMTNmYS00MjBlLWIxNWMtM2UyN2E0ODNiYjAyIiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSectionffca70206ad46cd2c9dc

Anyone notice anything unusual about today's data and the exact same time period last year? It's the same pre-Christmas bump, but this year we're higher.

If we're very lucky, maybe it's a fluke and there will be no massive January spike. But since the "tripledemic" is already a thing, if it happens, will you all be blogging how no one could have predicted the issue?

Please.


If they sent out notifications to parents, then it sure doesn’t sound like they’re concealing it.


Op what do you expect the dashboard to accomplish? It didn’t change anything last year. And what motive would the school have to lie about it as you suspect? I think a lot of students and teachers are masking now, I don’t think any responsible person is willing to force virtual learning again given the toll on the kids. You seem to see a massive conspiracy here but I’m not clear that there’s any high stakes decisions that would be affected by your claims. We’d probably be better off handing out free N95 masks in classes with those resources rather than maintaining the dashboards.


Yes, the dashboards are an indicator to some (conciencious) people who actually do change their behavior when they are aware there is an ongoing issue. Other parents might (unlike a self-centered person like yourself) actually may encourage their kids to mask if they know there is an issue.

But it's clear exactly what you are, so my expectations for people like you are not high at all. If there was a another serious outbreak, you wouldn't care, would you? If a senior teacher died, it's just accidental - not your fault, right? No worries - there are a lot of people like you in DC.


But how is the dashboard useful to those people when the vast majority of cases are never identified on it? And I'm not talking about the absurd conspiracy theory that there's a cover-up. Most cases in kids are effectively asymptomatic, and likely are never even identified by the affected person. Of those that do get sick, many won't think to test. Of those that do test, many won't bother to report a positive test.

I don't see how the dashboard is useful even to those particularly scared of covid.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 23:23     Subject: Re:Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP. I stayed quiet for a bit to see what conversations took place and I noticed two things.

1. Totally glossed over the point that last January required shutting down schools due to sick teachers, staff and bus drivers. The point was that schools would have to shut down again if it's as bad as last year, so say all you want how you need schools open. But a school is only a building. Without teachers and bus drivers, it's really not a school.

2. No. MCPS is not telling the truth. Multiple infections occurred. Infections were tested. Parents were notified (they had to be - the school couldn't conceal it - it was way too visible an issue). I took another capture of the reported numbers (again, that claims to show the last seven days worth of data). Yes, I have the proof, so I'm pretty comfortable that no one at MCPS would be dumb enough to challenge it or claim I'm not telling the truth since others also know. But whatever. Keep telling yourself whatever little white lie helps you sleep at night.

I get the people who are clinging to the idea there's no issue. I don't want there to be an issue either. But I took a hard look at the numbers.

https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiMDA1MDhjYjUtMTNmYS00MjBlLWIxNWMtM2UyN2E0ODNiYjAyIiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSectionffca70206ad46cd2c9dc

Anyone notice anything unusual about today's data and the exact same time period last year? It's the same pre-Christmas bump, but this year we're higher.

If we're very lucky, maybe it's a fluke and there will be no massive January spike. But since the "tripledemic" is already a thing, if it happens, will you all be blogging how no one could have predicted the issue?

Please.


If they sent out notifications to parents, then it sure doesn’t sound like they’re concealing it.


Op what do you expect the dashboard to accomplish? It didn’t change anything last year. And what motive would the school have to lie about it as you suspect? I think a lot of students and teachers are masking now, I don’t think any responsible person is willing to force virtual learning again given the toll on the kids. You seem to see a massive conspiracy here but I’m not clear that there’s any high stakes decisions that would be affected by your claims. We’d probably be better off handing out free N95 masks in classes with those resources rather than maintaining the dashboards.


Yes, the dashboards are an indicator to some (conciencious) people who actually do change their behavior when they are aware there is an ongoing issue. Other parents might (unlike a self-centered person like yourself) actually may encourage their kids to mask if they know there is an issue.

But it's clear exactly what you are, so my expectations for people like you are not high at all. If there was a another serious outbreak, you wouldn't care, would you? If a senior teacher died, it's just accidental - not your fault, right? No worries - there are a lot of people like you in DC.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 18:08     Subject: Re:Now I'm sure

My kid's teacher just caught it. Pre-existing conditions, begged kids to mask in their class, had an air purifier, etc. It breaks my heart that some of you have raised your kids to be so terrible.

I bet there's a fairly overlapping ven diagram with the anti maskers and the pro BcC binder club too.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 10:44     Subject: Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When my kids got Covid, I emailed the schools about their absences and the attendance office/nurse called me to calculate the number of days the kid would have to stay out. I told them I’d fill out the Covid reporting form online. Parents are probably not as conscientious and are not filling out the form.


It’s not mandatory anymore so why would people fill it out. Who really wants to give up their private health information if it’s not required. I was fine with filling out the form before it was voluntary. But since it’s voluntary and we are not going to have accurate counts I’m not doing it if my kid gets covid. What’s the purpose?


It was never "mandatory."


Yes, thankfully we don’t live in China. People could (or not) self-report when they wanted. And opt out of testing in school, if desired. Thank goodness.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 10:16     Subject: Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When my kids got Covid, I emailed the schools about their absences and the attendance office/nurse called me to calculate the number of days the kid would have to stay out. I told them I’d fill out the Covid reporting form online. Parents are probably not as conscientious and are not filling out the form.


It’s not mandatory anymore so why would people fill it out. Who really wants to give up their private health information if it’s not required. I was fine with filling out the form before it was voluntary. But since it’s voluntary and we are not going to have accurate counts I’m not doing it if my kid gets covid. What’s the purpose?


It was never "mandatory."
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 09:18     Subject: Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait, people still test for Covid?


RIGHT!


Why wouldn't you test if you have symptoms and are sick? I know you all aren't alone in thinking that but that is irresponsible when there is still so much sickness around.


Why would you test for Covid? Are you suggesting that if you’re sick, but are negative for Covid, then you can carry on like normal? Otherwise, how are you expecting it to affect behavior?


I am about to go stay with my 90 year old inlaws. If I had symptoms I would test, no Covid, I would go. Covid I would not.


I still don’t understand why you would visits 90yos if you were sick in any way. Just stay home. Even colds can hit hard at that age.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 07:44     Subject: Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:When my kids got Covid, I emailed the schools about their absences and the attendance office/nurse called me to calculate the number of days the kid would have to stay out. I told them I’d fill out the Covid reporting form online. Parents are probably not as conscientious and are not filling out the form.


It’s not mandatory anymore so why would people fill it out. Who really wants to give up their private health information if it’s not required. I was fine with filling out the form before it was voluntary. But since it’s voluntary and we are not going to have accurate counts I’m not doing it if my kid gets covid. What’s the purpose?
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 07:30     Subject: Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait, people still test for Covid?


RIGHT!


Why wouldn't you test if you have symptoms and are sick? I know you all aren't alone in thinking that but that is irresponsible when there is still so much sickness around.


Why would you test for Covid? Are you suggesting that if you’re sick, but are negative for Covid, then you can carry on like normal? Otherwise, how are you expecting it to affect behavior?


I am about to go stay with my 90 year old inlaws. If I had symptoms I would test, no Covid, I would go. Covid I would not.


It's a good thing that 90-year-olds don’t sick from influenza/RSV...
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 06:29     Subject: Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait, people still test for Covid?


RIGHT!


Why wouldn't you test if you have symptoms and are sick? I know you all aren't alone in thinking that but that is irresponsible when there is still so much sickness around.


Why would you test for Covid? Are you suggesting that if you’re sick, but are negative for Covid, then you can carry on like normal? Otherwise, how are you expecting it to affect behavior?


I am about to go stay with my 90 year old inlaws. If I had symptoms I would test, no Covid, I would go. Covid I would not.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 00:36     Subject: Re:Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP. I stayed quiet for a bit to see what conversations took place and I noticed two things.

1. Totally glossed over the point that last January required shutting down schools due to sick teachers, staff and bus drivers. The point was that schools would have to shut down again if it's as bad as last year, so say all you want how you need schools open. But a school is only a building. Without teachers and bus drivers, it's really not a school.

2. No. MCPS is not telling the truth. Multiple infections occurred. Infections were tested. Parents were notified (they had to be - the school couldn't conceal it - it was way too visible an issue). I took another capture of the reported numbers (again, that claims to show the last seven days worth of data). Yes, I have the proof, so I'm pretty comfortable that no one at MCPS would be dumb enough to challenge it or claim I'm not telling the truth since others also know. But whatever. Keep telling yourself whatever little white lie helps you sleep at night.

I get the people who are clinging to the idea there's no issue. I don't want there to be an issue either. But I took a hard look at the numbers.

https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiMDA1MDhjYjUtMTNmYS00MjBlLWIxNWMtM2UyN2E0ODNiYjAyIiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSectionffca70206ad46cd2c9dc

Anyone notice anything unusual about today's data and the exact same time period last year? It's the same pre-Christmas bump, but this year we're higher.

If we're very lucky, maybe it's a fluke and there will be no massive January spike. But since the "tripledemic" is already a thing, if it happens, will you all be blogging how no one could have predicted the issue?

Please.


If they sent out notifications to parents, then it sure doesn’t sound like they’re concealing it.


Op what do you expect the dashboard to accomplish? It didn’t change anything last year. And what motive would the school have to lie about it as you suspect? I think a lot of students and teachers are masking now, I don’t think any responsible person is willing to force virtual learning again given the toll on the kids. You seem to see a massive conspiracy here but I’m not clear that there’s any high stakes decisions that would be affected by your claims. We’d probably be better off handing out free N95 masks in classes with those resources rather than maintaining the dashboards.


There’s nothing being concealed. There’s just no incentive.


You usually don't broadcast information to all the parents at a school when you're trying to conceal it.


This isn’t like a year (or more) ago. Most people aren’t testing and/or getting knocked out. It presents like a cold in most people, and they act accordingly (i.e., keep on keeping on).
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2022 00:12     Subject: Re:Now I'm sure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP. I stayed quiet for a bit to see what conversations took place and I noticed two things.

1. Totally glossed over the point that last January required shutting down schools due to sick teachers, staff and bus drivers. The point was that schools would have to shut down again if it's as bad as last year, so say all you want how you need schools open. But a school is only a building. Without teachers and bus drivers, it's really not a school.

2. No. MCPS is not telling the truth. Multiple infections occurred. Infections were tested. Parents were notified (they had to be - the school couldn't conceal it - it was way too visible an issue). I took another capture of the reported numbers (again, that claims to show the last seven days worth of data). Yes, I have the proof, so I'm pretty comfortable that no one at MCPS would be dumb enough to challenge it or claim I'm not telling the truth since others also know. But whatever. Keep telling yourself whatever little white lie helps you sleep at night.

I get the people who are clinging to the idea there's no issue. I don't want there to be an issue either. But I took a hard look at the numbers.

https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiMDA1MDhjYjUtMTNmYS00MjBlLWIxNWMtM2UyN2E0ODNiYjAyIiwidCI6IjZlMDFiMWY5LWIxZTUtNDA3My1hYzk3LTc3ODA2OWEwYWQ2NCJ9&pageName=ReportSectionffca70206ad46cd2c9dc

Anyone notice anything unusual about today's data and the exact same time period last year? It's the same pre-Christmas bump, but this year we're higher.

If we're very lucky, maybe it's a fluke and there will be no massive January spike. But since the "tripledemic" is already a thing, if it happens, will you all be blogging how no one could have predicted the issue?

Please.


If they sent out notifications to parents, then it sure doesn’t sound like they’re concealing it.


Op what do you expect the dashboard to accomplish? It didn’t change anything last year. And what motive would the school have to lie about it as you suspect? I think a lot of students and teachers are masking now, I don’t think any responsible person is willing to force virtual learning again given the toll on the kids. You seem to see a massive conspiracy here but I’m not clear that there’s any high stakes decisions that would be affected by your claims. We’d probably be better off handing out free N95 masks in classes with those resources rather than maintaining the dashboards.


There’s nothing being concealed. There’s just no incentive.


You usually don't broadcast information to all the parents at a school when you're trying to conceal it.