Anonymous wrote:I completely agree OP. The way pregnant and postpartum and particularly women IN LABOR are treated is terrible.
Anonymous wrote:I was prepared to come in and laugh a bit at OP being so sensitive but uh, wow. I also thought there’d be atleast baseline agreement that it shouldn’t have happened. How do so many people think it’s perfectly fine to make fun of people - let alone their own patients - amongst coworkers behind their back? I teach my kids if you don’t have something nice to say don’t say it at all, and apparently some of y’all need to revisit that fairly universal concept. No, trash talking people isn’t a form of “therapy” and not wanting to be the subject of trash-talk isn’t “the height of privilege”. LOL what world do some of you live in where that’s acceptable?? Now we atleast know who is parenting the school bullies!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.
Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.
Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.
I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.
Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.
Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.
Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.
Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.
Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.
First off, who are you to determine if a family is acting a fool as you say? If they are 1. dangerous to themselves or others 2. making it difficult for patients to rest 3. physically or verbally assaulting staff or patients or other family members that is unacceptable. Anything else is mouth closed. You can complain about family. Dont utter a word about patients and their conditions/etc outside of medically necessary sharing of info. You are repugnant. Go see a therapist and talk it out.
And who are you to determine how a stressed healthcare worker can blow off steam? Gossiping in the break room is way better (and a lot cheaper) than therapy.
Your superior attitude is repugnant.
NP
I don’t think that saying mean or nasty things about the people you’re caring for is an acceptable way to blow off steam. It’s one thing to vent but these women were sarcastic and just obviously has contempt for those patients. I see the same things sometimes with teachers and their students too and I don’t think it’s okay.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.
Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.
Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.
I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.
Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.
Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.
Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.
Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.
Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.
First off, who are you to determine if a family is acting a fool as you say? If they are 1. dangerous to themselves or others 2. making it difficult for patients to rest 3. physically or verbally assaulting staff or patients or other family members that is unacceptable. Anything else is mouth closed. You can complain about family. Dont utter a word about patients and their conditions/etc outside of medically necessary sharing of info. You are repugnant. Go see a therapist and talk it out.
And who are you to determine how a stressed healthcare worker can blow off steam? Gossiping in the break room is way better (and a lot cheaper) than therapy.
Your superior attitude is repugnant.
Anonymous wrote:There’s probably a larger point here about a geenration in which many people think the way to process your feelings is to put it out there publicly. I hope the nursing and medical schools adjust their curriculum to explain to students why this isn’t okay.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.
Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.
Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.
I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.
Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.
Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.
Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.
Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.
Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.
First off, who are you to determine if a family is acting a fool as you say? If they are 1. dangerous to themselves or others 2. making it difficult for patients to rest 3. physically or verbally assaulting staff or patients or other family members that is unacceptable. Anything else is mouth closed. You can complain about family. Dont utter a word about patients and their conditions/etc outside of medically necessary sharing of info. You are repugnant. Go see a therapist and talk it out.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.
Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.
Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.
I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.
Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.
Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.
Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.
Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.
Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.
As long as (1) it doesn’t impact my care, and (2) it doesn’t get back to me, I don’t care.
The most alarming thing from the TikTok to me is the comment about epidurals. That nurse is complaining about patients who are asserting a right to refuse the most invasive form of pain management because doing do makes her job harder. If that’s how you feel, you should not be an L&D nurse (or maybe a nurse at all).
I had an epidural, by the way. Loved it. But it was my choice and if for whatever reason I’d decided against it, I would expect the nurse to roll with it and to be educated in other methods for pain management.
You obviously weren't on a ward with a woman doing natural birth. I had 8 hours of listening to her scream. As a patient, it was the most horrific experience. I have 0 respect for anyone that puts so many people through her pain.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.
Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.
Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.
I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.
Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.
Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.
Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.
Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.
Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.
Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.
Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.
I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.
Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.
Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.
Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.
Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.
Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.
As long as (1) it doesn’t impact my care, and (2) it doesn’t get back to me, I don’t care.
The most alarming thing from the TikTok to me is the comment about epidurals. That nurse is complaining about patients who are asserting a right to refuse the most invasive form of pain management because doing do makes her job harder. If that’s how you feel, you should not be an L&D nurse (or maybe a nurse at all).
I had an epidural, by the way. Loved it. But it was my choice and if for whatever reason I’d decided against it, I would expect the nurse to roll with it and to be educated in other methods for pain management.
You obviously weren't on a ward with a woman doing natural birth. I had 8 hours of listening to her scream. As a patient, it was the most horrific experience. I have 0 respect for anyone that puts so many people through her pain.
Anonymous wrote:They shouldn’t have made the tik tok, obviously, but I don’t care if the L&D nurses make fun of me in the break room. They took great care of me and it’s a very hard job. People need humor and some of you need to toughen up. Laughing or complaining about an anonymous patient later is not a big deal.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.
Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.
Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.
I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.
Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.
Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.
Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.
Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.
Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.
As long as (1) it doesn’t impact my care, and (2) it doesn’t get back to me, I don’t care.
The most alarming thing from the TikTok to me is the comment about epidurals. That nurse is complaining about patients who are asserting a right to refuse the most invasive form of pain management because doing do makes her job harder. If that’s how you feel, you should not be an L&D nurse (or maybe a nurse at all).
I had an epidural, by the way. Loved it. But it was my choice and if for whatever reason I’d decided against it, I would expect the nurse to roll with it and to be educated in other methods for pain management.
You obviously weren't on a ward with a woman doing natural birth. I had 8 hours of listening to her scream. As a patient, it was the most horrific experience. I have 0 respect for anyone that puts so many people through her pain.
Ridiculous. I had an epidural but was aware I was in a hospital where women were giving birth, some using epidurals some not. It’s terrible to suggest that women in labor should get an epidural just so they will shut up and not bother anyone around them. Also, 8hrs of consistent pain to the point of constant and sustained screaming sounds more like a medical emergency than a typical labor experience. Grow up and recognize that, in a hospital, you are likely going to encounter people who are in pain.
+1. I had an epidural but still cried and yelled while in labor. I was in pain, throwing up -- labor is hard! Anyway, I actually did feel self conscious about it and told my husband that I was worried I was bothering other people on the ward with my yelling and he told me that every time he went to the ice machine to get me ice chips, he heard women yelling all over the place. It was a relief to me -- ok, it's normal to be in pain, I would not be a "better" mother if I was just silently enduring the pain.
But I would be a more convenient patient to the nurse working a double shift and nursing a migraine. And that's the problem, and it's why these nurses should have found a better outlet for their complaints than freaking TikTok. Have the self-awareness to challenge the system that keeps you overworked and under-supported, instead of just blaming it all on your patients. They are not the reason you are having a hard time.