Anonymous wrote:So many butt hurt middle managers in here. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:People who don't write things down often get them wrong. I bet you're one of the, OP, and I bet Bob knows that. You're in denial.

Only the old and feeble minded need to write things down.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

My manager asked that Bob not attend these meetings anymore if he's going to be rude and aggressive with the staff. Bob didn't care for this at all as it was clearly a W for me.

After Bob was dismissed, my manage asked me to avoid him as "everyone knows he's an A hole" and cleaning up after him is more work for him.

When asked if I was to follow instruction or direction from Bob in the future, the response was:

"No. Bob has been told you do not report to him."

Lesson here is clear- Don't try to flex on non reports. And most definitely don't double down on dumb.

Merry Christmas!

Sure, and then everyone clapped, right?

Anonymous wrote:People who don't write things down often get them wrong. I bet you're one of the, OP, and I bet Bob knows that. You're in denial.

Anonymous wrote: You've just proven the adage: "In the kingdom of A holes the one who doesn't take notes is king"

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Anonymous wrote:One of the first tips I give younger employees is to always bring paper and always write down notes when someone asks. This seems old fashioned to them, but it solves so many problems. I don’t mind people not bringing paper but it’s super annoying when they take notes on their phone. It interrupts the course of conversation and draws their attention more than having paper. Or maybe that’s just my perception but also it doesn’t matter because that’s the perception of most people and meetings are about communication. I also can’t stand when people bring a laptop and stare at it but that battle was long lost as acceptable office etiquette.

This is widely considered obnoxious behavior. Maybe that seems dumb, but we all do things at work for the purpose of following protocol and fostering the feelings of other people. Just bring paper and a pen. It isn’t worth a big confrontation.

What are your feelings on short pants in the office?

That depends on the dress code.

I think the length of this thread shows that it’s enough of an accepted norm that arguing over it at your own job isn’t a good use of time.

Sock garters? Top hats?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the first tips I give younger employees is to always bring paper and always write down notes when someone asks. This seems old fashioned to them, but it solves so many problems. I don’t mind people not bringing paper but it’s super annoying when they take notes on their phone. It interrupts the course of conversation and draws their attention more than having paper. Or maybe that’s just my perception but also it doesn’t matter because that’s the perception of most people and meetings are about communication. I also can’t stand when people bring a laptop and stare at it but that battle was long lost as acceptable office etiquette.

This is widely considered obnoxious behavior. Maybe that seems dumb, but we all do things at work for the purpose of following protocol and fostering the feelings of other people. Just bring paper and a pen. It isn’t worth a big confrontation.

What are your feelings on short pants in the office?

That depends on the dress code.

I think the length of this thread shows that it’s enough of an accepted norm that arguing over it at your own job isn’t a good use of time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the first tips I give younger employees is to always bring paper and always write down notes when someone asks. This seems old fashioned to them, but it solves so many problems. I don’t mind people not bringing paper but it’s super annoying when they take notes on their phone. It interrupts the course of conversation and draws their attention more than having paper. Or maybe that’s just my perception but also it doesn’t matter because that’s the perception of most people and meetings are about communication. I also can’t stand when people bring a laptop and stare at it but that battle was long lost as acceptable office etiquette.

This is widely considered obnoxious behavior. Maybe that seems dumb, but we all do things at work for the purpose of following protocol and fostering the feelings of other people. Just bring paper and a pen. It isn’t worth a big confrontation.

What are your feelings on short pants in the office?

Anonymous wrote:One of the first tips I give younger employees is to always bring paper and always write down notes when someone asks. This seems old fashioned to them, but it solves so many problems. I don’t mind people not bringing paper but it’s super annoying when they take notes on their phone. It interrupts the course of conversation and draws their attention more than having paper. Or maybe that’s just my perception but also it doesn’t matter because that’s the perception of most people and meetings are about communication. I also can’t stand when people bring a laptop and stare at it but that battle was long lost as acceptable office etiquette.

This is widely considered obnoxious behavior. Maybe that seems dumb, but we all do things at work for the purpose of following protocol and fostering the feelings of other people. Just bring paper and a pen. It isn’t worth a big confrontation.

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

My manager asked that Bob not attend these meetings anymore if he's going to be rude and aggressive with the staff. Bob didn't care for this at all as it was clearly a W for me.

After Bob was dismissed, my manage asked me to avoid him as "everyone knows he's an A hole" and cleaning up after him is more work for him.

When asked if I was to follow instruction or direction from Bob in the future, the response was:

"No. Bob has been told you do not report to him."

Lesson here is clear- Don't try to flex on non reports. And most definitely don't double down on dumb.

Merry Christmas!