Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two boys. Did not circumcise. They can decide to get circumcised when they’re older. [b]My mom’s in medicine and says it’s barbaric and the babies cry a lot. She said no adult would sign up to get skin cut off with just a little numbing[/b].
My ob-gyn would not do it for ethical reasons. She said if we wanted it, she would need to refer us elsewhere.
Babies are numbed beforehand. They cry for a few seconds max and then fall back asleep. I was there for the entire procedure. It's worse to get circ'd as an adult.
Unless they don't. Or unless the procedure is botched (it happens).
An adult can express pain using words whereas a baby cannot, so maybe we think it's worse to get circ'd as an adult when in fact it's just our perception. I don't know, and neither do you.
Babies feel pain just as adults do, it's probably *not* worse as an adult.
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-04-21-babies-feel-pain-adults
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4410745/
A botched circumcision is about as common as complications from *not* being circumcized, i.e., not common. Whatever pain my sons felt was very brief - when we saw them a few minutes after, they weren't crying, nor were they recovering from crying. Neither was particularly fussy afterwards, either, they healed quickly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two boys. Did not circumcise. They can decide to get circumcised when they’re older. [b]My mom’s in medicine and says it’s barbaric and the babies cry a lot. She said no adult would sign up to get skin cut off with just a little numbing[/b].
My ob-gyn would not do it for ethical reasons. She said if we wanted it, she would need to refer us elsewhere.
Babies are numbed beforehand. They cry for a few seconds max and then fall back asleep. I was there for the entire procedure. It's worse to get circ'd as an adult.
Unless they don't. Or unless the procedure is botched (it happens).
An adult can express pain using words whereas a baby cannot, so maybe we think it's worse to get circ'd as an adult when in fact it's just our perception. I don't know, and neither do you.
Babies feel pain just as adults do, it's probably *not* worse as an adult.
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-04-21-babies-feel-pain-adults
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4410745/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two boys. Did not circumcise. They can decide to get circumcised when they’re older. [b]My mom’s in medicine and says it’s barbaric and the babies cry a lot. She said no adult would sign up to get skin cut off with just a little numbing[/b].
My ob-gyn would not do it for ethical reasons. She said if we wanted it, she would need to refer us elsewhere.
Babies are numbed beforehand. They cry for a few seconds max and then fall back asleep. I was there for the entire procedure. It's worse to get circ'd as an adult.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two boys. Did not circumcise. They can decide to get circumcised when they’re older. [b]My mom’s in medicine and says it’s barbaric and the babies cry a lot. She said no adult would sign up to get skin cut off with just a little numbing[/b].
My ob-gyn would not do it for ethical reasons. She said if we wanted it, she would need to refer us elsewhere.
Babies are numbed beforehand. They cry for a few seconds max and then fall back asleep. I was there for the entire procedure. It's worse to get circ'd as an adult.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did not circumcise my older son, will not circumcise the son I am pregnant with. It is genital mutilation! I was ten when my baby brother got circumcised and I will never forget his agony as an infant. No thank you.
They let a child watch the procedure? Weird.
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After he came home.
And you're positive it was from .... the circumcision? Not just because he was a newborn and newborns cry a lot? Seems like a stretch to me.
Are you trying to say it is unlikely that this newborn baby was crying from pain? So you’re saying that cutting off a piece of your skin (forget that it’s a particularly sensitive area with insane amounts of nerve endings, let’s just say any skin) would not be painful?
It’s just as painful for babies to get the tip of their genitals chopped off as it is for anyone. They just can’t communicate how painful it is and they don’t remember it later.
I’m not even anti-circumcision really but I hate that we pretend it is not an intensely painful ordeal for a human being to go through.
You clearly don't get what it is. It is not cutting off the tip of their genital. It is cutting off extra skin that isn't necessary.
Sort of like your labia? Who needs 'em!
This is so outrageously false and stupid comparison.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did not circumcise my older son, will not circumcise the son I am pregnant with. It is genital mutilation! I was ten when my baby brother got circumcised and I will never forget his agony as an infant. No thank you.
They let a child watch the procedure? Weird.
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After he came home.
And you're positive it was from .... the circumcision? Not just because he was a newborn and newborns cry a lot? Seems like a stretch to me.
Are you trying to say it is unlikely that this newborn baby was crying from pain? So you’re saying that cutting off a piece of your skin (forget that it’s a particularly sensitive area with insane amounts of nerve endings, let’s just say any skin) would not be painful?
It’s just as painful for babies to get the tip of their genitals chopped off as it is for anyone. They just can’t communicate how painful it is and they don’t remember it later.
I’m not even anti-circumcision really but I hate that we pretend it is not an intensely painful ordeal for a human being to go through.
You clearly don't get what it is. It is not cutting off the tip of their genital. It is cutting off extra skin that isn't necessary.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did not circumcise my older son, will not circumcise the son I am pregnant with. It is genital mutilation! I was ten when my baby brother got circumcised and I will never forget his agony as an infant. No thank you.
They let a child watch the procedure? Weird.
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After he came home.
And you're positive it was from .... the circumcision? Not just because he was a newborn and newborns cry a lot? Seems like a stretch to me.
Are you trying to say it is unlikely that this newborn baby was crying from pain? So you’re saying that cutting off a piece of your skin (forget that it’s a particularly sensitive area with insane amounts of nerve endings, let’s just say any skin) would not be painful?
It’s just as painful for babies to get the tip of their genitals chopped off as it is for anyone. They just can’t communicate how painful it is and they don’t remember it later.
I’m not even anti-circumcision really but I hate that we pretend it is not an intensely painful ordeal for a human being to go through.
You clearly don't get what it is. It is not cutting off the tip of their genital. It is cutting off extra skin that isn't necessary.
Sort of like your labia? Who needs 'em!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two boys. Did not circumcise. They can decide to get circumcised when they’re older. [b]My mom’s in medicine and says it’s barbaric and the babies cry a lot. She said no adult would sign up to get skin cut off with just a little numbing[/b].
My ob-gyn would not do it for ethical reasons. She said if we wanted it, she would need to refer us elsewhere.
Anonymous wrote:I let my husband make the choice since he's more familiar with the equipment. Totally good with the choice.
Anonymous wrote:Two boys. Did not circumcise. They can decide to get circumcised when they’re older. My mom’s in medicine and says it’s barbaric and the babies cry a lot. She said no adult would sign up to get skin cut off with just a little numbing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did not circumcise my older son, will not circumcise the son I am pregnant with. It is genital mutilation! I was ten when my baby brother got circumcised and I will never forget his agony as an infant. No thank you.
They let a child watch the procedure? Weird.
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After he came home.
And you're positive it was from .... the circumcision? Not just because he was a newborn and newborns cry a lot? Seems like a stretch to me.
Are you trying to say it is unlikely that this newborn baby was crying from pain? So you’re saying that cutting off a piece of your skin (forget that it’s a particularly sensitive area with insane amounts of nerve endings, let’s just say any skin) would not be painful?
Stfu
It’s just as painful for babies to get the tip of their genitals chopped off as it is for anyone. They just can’t communicate how painful it is and they don’t remember it later.
I’m not even anti-circumcision really but I hate that we pretend it is not an intensely painful ordeal for a human being to go through.
You clearly don't get what it is. It is not cutting off the tip of their genital. It is cutting off extra skin that isn't necessary.
There are a lot of our parts that are "unnecessary" now and we can live without but you don't see us taking out babies appendix or tonsils at birth. How weird.
Anonymous wrote:Husband is Jewish. He chose circ for son. No issues for him or any male relative on DH’s side.