Anonymous wrote:The point is, the same people opposing the bike lanes and complaining about the racial lens the ANC is about to consider, want to use the same racial lens to potentially fight the bike lanes.

I have not seen or heard that. I can't imagine why anyone opposed to the bike lanes, and all that comes with it, would be against examining proposal c through a racial lens.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
[/quote]

Yeah, because that has absolutely nothing to do with nearly zero bike infrastructure existing in the majority minority areas of the city or the fact that those areas are literally separated from the downtown core by highway bridges that have the world's tiniest sidewalks (absent the brand new bridge, which is quite nice). Yeah, of course it has nothing to do with that...[/quote]

"Are highways racist?" PP has some thinking to do. [/quote]

We can argue about -isms until the cows come home but it’s not hard to understand how the quality of life enjoyed by almost everyone in DC who lives east of the Anacostia River would be dramatically improved by the removal (or, failing that, covering) of 295.[/quote]

While that may be true it is not in any way relevent to this discussion.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

Yeah, because that has absolutely nothing to do with nearly zero bike infrastructure existing in the majority minority areas of the city or the fact that those areas are literally separated from the downtown core by highway bridges that have the world's tiniest sidewalks (absent the brand new bridge, which is quite nice). Yeah, of course it has nothing to do with that...

"Are highways racist?" PP has some thinking to do.

We can argue about -isms until the cows come home but it’s not hard to understand how the quality of life enjoyed by almost everyone in DC who lives east of the Anacostia River would be dramatically improved by the removal (or, failing that, covering) of 295.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

Yeah, because that has absolutely nothing to do with nearly zero bike infrastructure existing in the majority minority areas of the city or the fact that those areas are literally separated from the downtown core by highway bridges that have the world's tiniest sidewalks (absent the brand new bridge, which is quite nice). Yeah, of course it has nothing to do with that...

"Are highways racist?" PP has some thinking to do.

Anyone who doesn't know about the racism associated with highways shouldn't be allowed wot partake in this conversation until the read up.

Anonymous wrote:Biking is stupid and danger, car is the safest and ev is no gas

You’re stupid and dangerous.

Biking is stupid and danger, car is the safest and ev is no gas

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

Yeah, because that has absolutely nothing to do with nearly zero bike infrastructure existing in the majority minority areas of the city or the fact that those areas are literally separated from the downtown core by highway bridges that have the world's tiniest sidewalks (absent the brand new bridge, which is quite nice). Yeah, of course it has nothing to do with that...

"Are highways racist?" PP has some thinking to do.

Anonymous wrote:Lot of hostility on this thread towards disabled people.

+1

It’s what happens when the cycling bros realize they’re not the center of the universe and their parochial needs are not the only needs that matter.

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

Yeah, because that has absolutely nothing to do with nearly zero bike infrastructure existing in the majority minority areas of the city or the fact that those areas are literally separated from the downtown core by highway bridges that have the world's tiniest sidewalks (absent the brand new bridge, which is quite nice). Yeah, of course it has nothing to do with that...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

I'm rooting for the disabled black residents.

I'm so sick and tired of white bike riders, usually male, dressed up at 7:45am like it's the dang Tour de France and speeding up to make it impossible for anybody to drive around them in rush hour. We have TONS of bike paths in this area. Can't they get their fix on a bike path? And not during rush hour? It seems like an addiction to me. Especially with the costume.

There is this guy in Cleveland Park. Older white guy. Got mocked for pretending to be an ANC commissioner when talking to businesses. He was mostly kept in his lane for awhile. Well, he started joining virtual
community meetings, ANC stuff, DDOT events... The thing is that he decided to join these meetings as DuShawn, a concerned citizen of every SMD. Sometimes in the chat, he would even appropriate AAVE.

The prior post has a lot of those vibes, fellow kids.

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

I'm rooting for the disabled black residents.

I'm so sick and tired of white bike riders, usually male, dressed up at 7:45am like it's the dang Tour de France and speeding up to make it impossible for anybody to drive around them in rush hour. We have TONS of bike paths in this area. Can't they get their fix on a bike path? And not during rush hour? It seems like an addiction to me. Especially with the costume.

The point is, the same people opposing the bike lanes and complaining about the racial lens the ANC is about to consider, want to use the same racial lens to potentially fight the bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

So bike lanes are racially biased? Is that the argument? So airports are racially biased too then. Shall we shut them down too. Highways are probably racially biased also. Let’s make sure we pull them out along with it. Just so that we take full advantage of the opportunity presented by this lawsuit, please make a long list of every piece of infrastructure that is used less frequently by black people and bring them to the attention of the necessary authorities.

According to some of the Connecticut Ave bike lane proponents, that was indeed one of the reasons why bike lanes were needed. They said, and it's all in the big thread if you don't believe me, that the road was primarily used by white people and therefore bike lanes were needed for equity reasons.

How nice. But, luckily for them, they weren’t stupid enough to make such claims the center piece of a lawsuit.

I believe conducting a racial impact analysis is now required but I could be wrong.

https://planning.dc.gov/racialequity

And yet, the Cleveland Park NIMBYs are complaining about the same thing the other way.

I'm still confused by this NIMBY pejorative you keep using. It's almost as confusing as the luddite one before it. Are you referring to the people that don't want cars on Connecticut or the people that don't want traffic on their side streets?

Regardless, if a racial impact and equity analysis was needed and not done, or done but factually inaccurate, then that seems like something that should be addressed when challenging the design. Was one done, since you seem to know?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

So bike lanes are racially biased? Is that the argument? So airports are racially biased too then. Shall we shut them down too. Highways are probably racially biased also. Let’s make sure we pull them out along with it. Just so that we take full advantage of the opportunity presented by this lawsuit, please make a long list of every piece of infrastructure that is used less frequently by black people and bring them to the attention of the necessary authorities.

According to some of the Connecticut Ave bike lane proponents, that was indeed one of the reasons why bike lanes were needed. They said, and it's all in the big thread if you don't believe me, that the road was primarily used by white people and therefore bike lanes were needed for equity reasons.

How nice. But, luckily for them, they weren’t stupid enough to make such claims the center piece of a lawsuit.

I believe conducting a racial impact analysis is now required but I could be wrong.

https://planning.dc.gov/racialequity

And yet, the Cleveland Park NIMBYs are complaining about the same thing the other way.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

So bike lanes are racially biased? Is that the argument? So airports are racially biased too then. Shall we shut them down too. Highways are probably racially biased also. Let’s make sure we pull them out along with it. Just so that we take full advantage of the opportunity presented by this lawsuit, please make a long list of every piece of infrastructure that is used less frequently by black people and bring them to the attention of the necessary authorities.

According to some of the Connecticut Ave bike lane proponents, that was indeed one of the reasons why bike lanes were needed. They said, and it's all in the big thread if you don't believe me, that the road was primarily used by white people and therefore bike lanes were needed for equity reasons.

How nice. But, luckily for them, they weren’t stupid enough to make such claims the center piece of a lawsuit.

I believe conducting a racial impact analysis is now required but I could be wrong.

https://planning.dc.gov/racialequity