Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 20:02     Subject: If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

What about the Green Party candidates? They won’t win, but they might be worth looking at.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 19:57     Subject: If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.


This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about



Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

My denomination does not oppose religious marriage for gay couples, and I don’t approve of people who are on the board of an organization that opposes being gay.

Grace Rivera-Oven is Catholic and the Catholic faith does absolutely renounce same sex marriage. Why the double standard? Do you have something against Black churches?
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 19:40     Subject: If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.


This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about



Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .

My denomination does not oppose religious marriage for gay couples, and I don’t approve of people who are on the board of an organization that opposes being gay.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 18:48     Subject: If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.


This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about



Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .


First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.

Let me introduce you to the Catholic Church.
https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Homosexuality is a sin.

Transgender identities are not recognized.

No recognition of gay marriage.

Gay people cannot be admitted to the clergy.

It looks like in your rush to condemn this woman, you are being a religious bigot, unless you also make sure to go after Rivera-Oven’s Catholic faith.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 15:16     Subject: If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.


This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about



Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .


First off, I believe in gay marriage. Second, this isn't "religious marriage". It's "homosexuality". They oppose BEING GAY.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 14:10     Subject: If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? You know the GOP folks are completely bat crap crazy to quote another poster. Any Dem votting for Reardon is not an actual Dem at all. Not an Elrich fan either, but the primary was the time to take care of that, and there was no decent candidate, so were stuck with him again.

Please don't vote for Wells for Board of Education. She wants to stop CRT (which isn't taught in MCPS), and is on the Board of an anti LBGTQ+ organization. We don't need that kind of hate!

I am not sure what this CRT talking point is about. If CRT is not taught, then there is nothing to worry about?

Also, Wells is on the board of the largest Black church in the county. Nice way to frame it as an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”. Is Rivera Oven Catholic? Might be about to say that is is a member of an “anti LBGTQ+ organization”.


This is the organization she's a member of. Frame it how you want, they're a homophobic organization. I don't vote for homophobic people.

https://icog.org/values-beliefs

Scroll to the bottom and you get to this.
HUMAN SEXUALITY
The Bible teaches that legitimate sexual relations are exercised solely within marriage. Hence, this Church opposes all forms of sexual immorality, including adultery, homosexuality, and pornography. (Rom. 1:18-32; Hebrews 13:4)

Here she is, trustee board member.
https://icog.org/about



Omg it’s a CHURCH! Most denominations oppose religious marriage for gay couples. Nothing to worry about with separation of church and state .
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 13:16     Subject: Re:If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I voted Republican for every county office.

The entire council and executive D candidates are nothing short of incompetent, slogan spewing nimrods.

Of course, they'll be elected because that's what Takoma Park wants, but I figured that I'd give at least a modicum of push back to their domination.

I don't know what it will take to wake residents up to their incompetence (like say, half of MCPS teachers resigning, perhaps?), but apparently things have to reach rock bottom before it sinks in.


You do know that there are over 1 million people in Montgomery County and only 17,000 in Takoma Park, right?

There is a pretty strong history of At Large CMs like Riemer and Leventhal getting elected and re-elected based on nothing but support from Takoma Park and Silver Spring. Both tried their luck for CE and neither got any significant votes outside of Takoma Park and Silver Spring.



Well, that's on the rest of the county for not voting. The only reason Takoma Park has outsized political influence is because people are very politically engaged and show up at the polls.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 12:48     Subject: Re:If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I voted Republican for every county office.

The entire council and executive D candidates are nothing short of incompetent, slogan spewing nimrods.

Of course, they'll be elected because that's what Takoma Park wants, but I figured that I'd give at least a modicum of push back to their domination.

I don't know what it will take to wake residents up to their incompetence (like say, half of MCPS teachers resigning, perhaps?), but apparently things have to reach rock bottom before it sinks in.


You do know that there are over 1 million people in Montgomery County and only 17,000 in Takoma Park, right?

There is a pretty strong history of At Large CMs like Riemer and Leventhal getting elected and re-elected based on nothing but support from Takoma Park and Silver Spring. Both tried their luck for CE and neither got any significant votes outside of Takoma Park and Silver Spring.

Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 12:29     Subject: Re:If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:Shocking to see some trying to position Grace as a centrist type candidate. She is as establishment far left as it gets. She was hosted by the people pushing forever masking now in Fall 2022 as the best candidate for forever maskers.

The attacks on Wells (the only black immigrant running for BOE) are simply a witch hunt because the establishment will do anything to maintain power and prevent people from seeing all of the no bid contracts and other major financial issues going on at MCPS. They want parents to stay uninformed and they want to be able to hand pick candidates.

They also didn't do their research on Grace as she didn't pay taxes for years and finally paid off over $100,000 in federal tax liens just last year and refuses to answer questions about that (https://cnsmaryland.org/2022/11/03/eleven-maryland-school-board-candidates-have-faced-tax-liens/). Note Wells had one too which she had from her divorce and paid off within 18 months (and importantly, answered questions on).


THIS!

I voted for Wells and was so glad to have her as an option.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 10:44     Subject: If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:I was progressive. After watching a bunch of sloppy progressive policies get implemented, where the politicians cared more about headlines and credit than about actual impacts and results, I've moved more center. According to this Pew Political Typology quiz, I'm an establishment liberal.

https://www.pewresearch.org/topic/politics-policy/political-parties-polarization/political-typology/

So, as liberal as you can get without identifying as progressive. I want change, but I don't want to blow up systems (and therefore hurt people) in the process.

I voted all Democrat at the federal level.


Here, I voted:

Governor: Wes Moore
Comptroller: Barry Glassman (R)
AG: Anthony Brown (reluctantly)

County Executive: Reardon Sullivan (R) (wanted Blair because Elrich is awful. Will vote R to get rid of Elrich)

At Large Council: Albornoz (D)
Glass (D)
Sayles (D)
Patel (R) protest vote against Jawando, but it won't do any good.

My District Councilmember: Voted for the D, who is liberal but not crazy. If I were in 4 or 5, I would have voted for the R.

Board of Education:

Julie Yang
Valerie Coll
Esther Wells (for some balance and accountability)
Karla Silvestre


Wow, I went almost exactly the same except Petoutka, who I found to be a much better candidate. But I also voted yes to marijuana, without hesitation.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 10:23     Subject: If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was progressive. After watching a bunch of sloppy progressive policies get implemented, where the politicians cared more about headlines and credit than about actual impacts and results, I've moved more center. According to this Pew Political Typology quiz, I'm an establishment liberal.

https://www.pewresearch.org/topic/politics-policy/political-parties-polarization/political-typology/

So, as liberal as you can get without identifying as progressive. I want change, but I don't want to blow up systems (and therefore hurt people) in the process.

I voted all Democrat at the federal level.


Here, I voted:

Governor: Wes Moore
Comptroller: Barry Glassman (R)
AG: Anthony Brown (reluctantly)

County Executive: Reardon Sullivan (R) (wanted Blair because Elrich is awful. Will vote R to get rid of Elrich)

At Large Council: Albornoz (D)
Glass (D)
Sayles (D)
Patel (R) protest vote against Jawando, but it won't do any good.

My District Councilmember: Voted for the D, who is liberal but not crazy. If I were in 4 or 5, I would have voted for the R.

Board of Education:

Julie Yang
Valerie Coll
Esther Wells (for some balance and accountability)
Karla Silvestre

Thanks for the link to the poll, it identifies me as “Outsider Left”, mainly because I rate both parties badly.

I agree with a lot of your votes. Here is how I’m voting.

Governor: Moore (Cox is an embarrassment)
Comptroller: Glassman (R) (I would have been fine voting Lierman until I found out that she is trying to block the bridge expansion)
AG: Brown (agree with reluctantly voting Brown. R candidate is an insane embarrassment, like Cox, but Brown is incompetent)

County Executive: Reardon (don’t mind Elrich too much, but the economy will not improve with him. Thrive is bad and we need expansion of bridges and roads. Reardon shares that position. Elrich wants nothing to change.)

District Council: Blank (I hate my CM)

At Large Council: Sayles, Patel, Blank, Blank (More upcounty representation and protest against incompetent incumbents. Was pro-Albornoz until mishandling of Thrive/Planning Board fiasco).

Board of Education: Erickson, Yang, Wells, Coll (Anti-incumbent. MCPS is at a precipice and McKnight is not good. Need more accountability and back to basics.)

Question 1: For (who cares, it is basically an ego thing for judges)

Question 2: For (no brainer, Heather Mizeur should not be allowed to pretend that she lives in both Takoma Park and District 2)

Question 3: For (more cost efficient for tax payers)

Question 4: Against (decriminalization is fine, but legal recreational sale is bad for Maryland and will hurt POC communities the most)

Question 5: For (if we are doing anything where the only other people doing it is the state of Alabama then we should stop doing it)

Question A: Against (it is a CE appointment, the Council should not get a say and they have proven very incompetent at oversight so why make County Attorney more political)

Question B: For (Damascus is the only dry jurisdiction left in MoCo)









What are you talking about? Heather sold her house in Takoma Park years ago and does not pretend like she lives there.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 10:21     Subject: Re:If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:I voted Republican for every county office.

The entire council and executive D candidates are nothing short of incompetent, slogan spewing nimrods.

Of course, they'll be elected because that's what Takoma Park wants, but I figured that I'd give at least a modicum of push back to their domination.

I don't know what it will take to wake residents up to their incompetence (like say, half of MCPS teachers resigning, perhaps?), but apparently things have to reach rock bottom before it sinks in.


You do know that there are over 1 million people in Montgomery County and only 17,000 in Takoma Park, right?
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 09:19     Subject: Re:If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Shocking to see some trying to position Grace as a centrist type candidate. She is as establishment far left as it gets. She was hosted by the people pushing forever masking now in Fall 2022 as the best candidate for forever maskers.

The attacks on Wells (the only black immigrant running for BOE) are simply a witch hunt because the establishment will do anything to maintain power and prevent people from seeing all of the no bid contracts and other major financial issues going on at MCPS. They want parents to stay uninformed and they want to be able to hand pick candidates.

They also didn't do their research on Grace as she didn't pay taxes for years and finally paid off over $100,000 in federal tax liens just last year and refuses to answer questions about that (https://cnsmaryland.org/2022/11/03/eleven-maryland-school-board-candidates-have-faced-tax-liens/). Note Wells had one too which she had from her divorce and paid off within 18 months (and importantly, answered questions on).
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 09:11     Subject: Re:If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great to see this discussion here.

Jason here from Moderately MOCO.

Here is our recommended ballot:https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-general-election-page/

I would also suggest for moderates and centrists and independents to pay attention to local and state politics. We need to push for more balance and the ability to vote when it counts (in the Primary) for independents.


Thanks for posting. I don’t see your County Exec pick, unless I’m missing it. Surprised about the yes on legalizing marijuana.

Nothing “moderate” about the picks.


Gotta love extremists who trash moderates for not being "moderate" enough.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 08:55     Subject: If you’re a center left MoCo resident, who’s you vote for across the ballot?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats. The time to chose was in the primaries.


This^^^

Mf’ers if you missed the primaries you missed out.


I'm registered as an Independent and since Maryland has closed primaries the only thing I could vote for was school board.

Your vote is a waste if you register anything other than D here. Vote for the most moderate D.

-former R now Independent.

I did switch to R during the primaries to vote for a non Trumplican, then switched back to D. Very easy to switch in MoCo, at least.