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Anonymous wrote:pp also a lot of eating disorders among women, I’ve noticed at least for French and Italian women (not Europe, but this is huge in Japan, China, and Korea as well). There is more social pressure to be thin and less of a body positivity movement, so people really hardcore diet. I’ve noticed less of this for Germans and Scandinavians, but very much so for French women.

Yeah I wish more people mentioned this. Keeping thin is very much emphasized in European families. It is simply not acceptable to be fat. Whereas American families are much more concerned about eating disorders and being sensitive to their children’s feelings. If an American mother saw her child was getting chubby, she would never say so. Europeans have no zero problems say it, and harping on it.

I am not discounting all the other things people mentioned, but it’s also a no-nonsense mindset.

Yeah that mindset where it's no-nonsense about keeping thin is even more common in East Asian Countries (Japan/China/Korea).

It's been my observation that this is true for wealthy families both places but not a typical attitude. Most of the middle class Europeans I know like to eat and would never call their kids "chubby". France is really the only place where the obsession with thinness permeates the masses but even there, there are so many immigrants and multi-ethnic families that I just don't see this that much. A lot of people in Europe prefer a rounder shape. I don't know, maybe it's a hold over from being peasants when having a little meat on your bones likely made you hardier and less sickly. It's only the aristocrats and the nouveau riche who seem to care so much about being fashionably thin.

Agreed with all of the above, but I dont know if theyre healthier or not. Americans tend to have better teeth and less wrinkles. Most Europeans dont wear sunscreen as well

Their foods don’t have hundreds of chemicals in them that are considered poisonous but that our fda permits in small amounts in food and packaging. They consider these small amounts acceptable but in fact are a huge problem and cause obesity and disease all around. Seed oil too in way too much food in the US. Stop eating chemicals and you’ll transform your life.

I believe you get fined by your workplace in Japan if you are 10 or 20 pounds over weight.

Europeans eat fruits and vegetables in season. No way would they accept or eat the tasteless product from our grocery stores that is trucked to death.

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Anonymous wrote:pp also a lot of eating disorders among women, I’ve noticed at least for French and Italian women (not Europe, but this is huge in Japan, China, and Korea as well). There is more social pressure to be thin and less of a body positivity movement, so people really hardcore diet. I’ve noticed less of this for Germans and Scandinavians, but very much so for French women.

Yeah I wish more people mentioned this. Keeping thin is very much emphasized in European families. It is simply not acceptable to be fat. Whereas American families are much more concerned about eating disorders and being sensitive to their children’s feelings. If an American mother saw her child was getting chubby, she would never say so. Europeans have no zero problems say it, and harping on it.

I am not discounting all the other things people mentioned, but it’s also a no-nonsense mindset.

Yeah that mindset where it's no-nonsense about keeping thin is even more common in East Asian Countries (Japan/China/Korea).

I remember when I was in East Asia, the talk type shows spent a lot of time shaming "fat" (not even fat by US standards) celebrities.

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Anonymous wrote:pp also a lot of eating disorders among women, I’ve noticed at least for French and Italian women (not Europe, but this is huge in Japan, China, and Korea as well). There is more social pressure to be thin and less of a body positivity movement, so people really hardcore diet. I’ve noticed less of this for Germans and Scandinavians, but very much so for French women.

Yeah I wish more people mentioned this. Keeping thin is very much emphasized in European families. It is simply not acceptable to be fat. Whereas American families are much more concerned about eating disorders and being sensitive to their children’s feelings. If an American mother saw her child was getting chubby, she would never say so. Europeans have no zero problems say it, and harping on it.

I am not discounting all the other things people mentioned, but it’s also a no-nonsense mindset.

Yeah that mindset where it's no-nonsense about keeping thin is even more common in East Asian Countries (Japan/China/Korea).

My next door neighbor drives to her mailbox for goodness sake. Americans who are fat are fat because of lifestyle. And it is hard to become un-fat once you’ve disrupted the homeostatic systems in the body that maintain appropriate weight.

In luzern - the most “Swiss” of the major cities and no one eats vegetables

Bavaria, osterreich, suisse - way way way less veggie consumption compared to similar ses Americans in California or north east

These threads are always silly. It’s all centrally planned obesity and chilis is at the center of it all, of course. And big AG and plastic particles in the food supply.

Anonymous wrote:pp also a lot of eating disorders among women, I’ve noticed at least for French and Italian women (not Europe, but this is huge in Japan, China, and Korea as well). There is more social pressure to be thin and less of a body positivity movement, so people really hardcore diet. I’ve noticed less of this for Germans and Scandinavians, but very much so for French women.

Yeah I wish more people mentioned this. Keeping thin is very much emphasized in European families. It is simply not acceptable to be fat. Whereas American families are much more concerned about eating disorders and being sensitive to their children’s feelings. If an American mother saw her child was getting chubby, she would never say so. Europeans have no zero problems say it, and harping on it.

I am not discounting all the other things people mentioned, but it’s also a no-nonsense mindset.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re happier and less stressed. They have universal health care.

This. They have a much more robust social safety net plus universal health care, paid maternity leave, and usually a fiarly good vacation. So much less stress than in the US.
Plus more walking and more public transportation.

Paid for with ruinous taxes, including tax policies that discourage home ownership over rental and vehicle ownership (and the concomitant freedom that brings) over mass transit that frequently is unfriendly to the disabled and regularly shut down by strikes. Significantly lower socio-economic mobility, with students put on lifetime occupational tracks comparatively early. Typically a significant emphasis on social conformity. And there’s a reason for the smaller portions. Food is more expensive. Some of that expense results in overall higher quality but not all of it.

This right here. I’ll add expecting women to not only work but to unofficially drop out of the work for 1-2 years to care for a young child while receiving “fully paid maternity leave” that’s around $200-300 a week. No thanks!

In my Europe I eat and I'm full for a long time. I can get a lot done without thinking about food. Europe is much more walk-able and food isn't on every corner.
In US I think about my next meal as I'm eating my current one, and it's not because is better here. I don't know why the difference in food and what it does to my brain. Here food/ drinks are tied to a restroom more often than not.
My skinny EU friends simply get enough nutrients they eat. My skinny friend got chubby in US within a year being an Au Pair and eating what the family ate. It's the food. She did not get lazier, she ran after two toddlers.

Anonymous wrote:Affluent educated adults in Europe tend to look the same to me as affluent educated adults in the US. Go to any upscale affluent suburb and the women are thin and in shape.

The biggest difference to me is with the middle class. Go eat at a chili’s in middle America and you’ll be shocked how overweight everyone is. But then look at what they are eating and it’s not remotely surprising. The parking lot is full of giant SUVs. No one walks anywhere and the portions are huge.

No.

Umc white women in the us under 40 work on their ass and other weight training way more than European women of the same demographic

They are snide when they call American women “sporty”