Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
I also believe that we can get over our trama(s) if we do choose. My older sister blamed me for our mother's death and used to beat the living daylights out of me. I made a choice many years ago that I could move on from her and problems.
Those who choose to live in the past have no future.
Lol *that* was your trauma? You think that because you got over that, people who from the time they were toddlers were constantly called horrible names by their parents, screamed at all the time, blamed for the parent’s problems, etc should just be able to “get over it” too?
That’s ridiculous and I don’t think you’re over your trauma. Go back to therapy.
Wow, just wow. I'm not that pp, but how dare you judge somebody else's trauma? And then you pile your faux diagnosis on top of it. Some of you are just pot-stirring a$$holes who make me sympathetic to the family members who have to deal with you.
Oh no don’t misunderstand. I am not judging her trauma in any way. That sounds terrible! But the idea that she went though what mostly likely is not nearly as traumatic as what others are going through, yet thinks that we can all just get over our traumas if we just “choose” is wrong.
I find it kind of wild that you would i chastise my comment not hers, by the way. She said our early environments should not impact our adulthoods and if they do, it’s just because we are choosing that kind of life. That’s a really cruel thing to say.
Stop it. She said her sister "beat the living daylights out of me" and your response is: "Lol *that* was your trauma?" and then you nastily recommended more therapy for her. Ugh.
Again, you shouldn't be getting into the "my trauma is worse than your trauma" game. Nor should you be delivering your unprofessional diagnoses over the interwebs.
While I have tons of compassion for most people on this thread, in your case I'll save my compassion for your family.
I never said my trauma was worse. She said, in a response to my question about whether or not early childhood experiences impact adulthood, that they don’t. How does she know? Because her sister beat her and blamed her for her mom dying and she’s over it.
Okay, then, so the adult who watched his parents being killed when he was seven by a drug dealer shouldn’t have an excuse for nightmares that don’t let him sleep and shouldn’t have struggles with intimate relationships? The woman who was a victim of incest her entire childhood is flying into rages just because she hasn’t tried hard enough to leave the past behind?
If she or anyone else truly thinks this, I do think that therapy would be useful.
Except nobody on this thread said any of this. It's just you ratcheting up the drama, again.
Of course such victims deserve our empathy. My close friend is a victim of incest. But she's not on this thread and, I know her well, she definitely wouldn't give you permission to belittle pp's experience being abused by a sibling.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
DP. Living in the past doesn’t help with healing. Recognize what you’ve been through, name it, and then find a way to move forward.
Well yeah. The problem with being traumatized is that it keeps you living in the past. It keeps impacting you until you are able to heal. But what do you think “recognizing what have have lived through” means? Just….never talking about it? Never complaining? No. Confronting the past, processing it, etc is part of what is required to move past it. This is not a fast process. If you want to call it “wallowing in self-pity,” fine, but you could also just say nothing.
And what is with these parents of adult children jumping in and lecturing people who complain about their childhoods? Unless you’re OP’s mom it’s bizarre to get so defensive.
Agree. Definitely seems like projection.
Except it's not project, at least in my case. You trying to dismiss concerns about your behavior is what's concerning.
PP, I typed 5 words. What is it you imagine I've done?
Anybody else starting to suspect some of these traumatized adult children are trolls?
No, but I believe the "pity party" Trauma llama" "stop living in the past" name calling posters are sh#t stirring low key narcissist who feel seen in some of the traumatized posters' stories. If you possess self awareness, you can change. Stop abusing your family members and keep your abuse off of this thread, please and thank you.
This is such self-serving nonsense. Watching you buys wallow in self-pity, and being concerned for you, does not mean anybody else is an abuser. That's nuts. Please find a real therapist and stop projecting onto internet strangers. Please and thank you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
I also believe that we can get over our trama(s) if we do choose. My older sister blamed me for our mother's death and used to beat the living daylights out of me. I made a choice many years ago that I could move on from her and problems.
Those who choose to live in the past have no future.
Lol *that* was your trauma? You think that because you got over that, people who from the time they were toddlers were constantly called horrible names by their parents, screamed at all the time, blamed for the parent’s problems, etc should just be able to “get over it” too?
That’s ridiculous and I don’t think you’re over your trauma. Go back to therapy.
Wow, just wow. I'm not that pp, but how dare you judge somebody else's trauma? And then you pile your faux diagnosis on top of it. Some of you are just pot-stirring a$$holes who make me sympathetic to the family members who have to deal with you.
Oh no don’t misunderstand. I am not judging her trauma in any way. That sounds terrible! But the idea that she went though what mostly likely is not nearly as traumatic as what others are going through, yet thinks that we can all just get over our traumas if we just “choose” is wrong.
I find it kind of wild that you would i chastise my comment not hers, by the way. She said our early environments should not impact our adulthoods and if they do, it’s just because we are choosing that kind of life. That’s a really cruel thing to say.
Stop it. She said her sister "beat the living daylights out of me" and your response is: "Lol *that* was your trauma?" and then you nastily recommended more therapy for her. Ugh.
Again, you shouldn't be getting into the "my trauma is worse than your trauma" game. Nor should you be delivering your unprofessional diagnoses over the interwebs.
While I have tons of compassion for most people on this thread, in your case I'll save my compassion for your family.
That's just mean. This is an anonymous board and you don't know what pp has experienced. This is a thread about verbal and emotional abuse, we should show each poster some compassion.
The pp in question loll'ed at the other pp's tale of abuse, so maybe you need to be admonishing her instead.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
I also believe that we can get over our trama(s) if we do choose. My older sister blamed me for our mother's death and used to beat the living daylights out of me. I made a choice many years ago that I could move on from her and problems.
Those who choose to live in the past have no future.
Lol *that* was your trauma? You think that because you got over that, people who from the time they were toddlers were constantly called horrible names by their parents, screamed at all the time, blamed for the parent’s problems, etc should just be able to “get over it” too?
That’s ridiculous and I don’t think you’re over your trauma. Go back to therapy.
Wow, just wow. I'm not that pp, but how dare you judge somebody else's trauma? And then you pile your faux diagnosis on top of it. Some of you are just pot-stirring a$$holes who make me sympathetic to the family members who have to deal with you.
Oh no don’t misunderstand. I am not judging her trauma in any way. That sounds terrible! But the idea that she went though what mostly likely is not nearly as traumatic as what others are going through, yet thinks that we can all just get over our traumas if we just “choose” is wrong.
I find it kind of wild that you would i chastise my comment not hers, by the way. She said our early environments should not impact our adulthoods and if they do, it’s just because we are choosing that kind of life. That’s a really cruel thing to say.
Stop it. She said her sister "beat the living daylights out of me" and your response is: "Lol *that* was your trauma?" and then you nastily recommended more therapy for her. Ugh.
Again, you shouldn't be getting into the "my trauma is worse than your trauma" game. Nor should you be delivering your unprofessional diagnoses over the interwebs.
While I have tons of compassion for most people on this thread, in your case I'll save my compassion for your family.
I never said my trauma was worse. She said, in a response to my question about whether or not early childhood experiences impact adulthood, that they don’t. How does she know? Because her sister beat her and blamed her for her mom dying and she’s over it.
Okay, then, so the adult who watched his parents being killed when he was seven by a drug dealer shouldn’t have an excuse for nightmares that don’t let him sleep and shouldn’t have struggles with intimate relationships? The woman who was a victim of incest her entire childhood is flying into rages just because she hasn’t tried hard enough to leave the past behind?
If she or anyone else truly thinks this, I do think that therapy would be useful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
I also believe that we can get over our trama(s) if we do choose. My older sister blamed me for our mother's death and used to beat the living daylights out of me. I made a choice many years ago that I could move on from her and problems.
Those who choose to live in the past have no future.
Lol *that* was your trauma? You think that because you got over that, people who from the time they were toddlers were constantly called horrible names by their parents, screamed at all the time, blamed for the parent’s problems, etc should just be able to “get over it” too?
That’s ridiculous and I don’t think you’re over your trauma. Go back to therapy.
Wow, just wow. I'm not that pp, but how dare you judge somebody else's trauma? And then you pile your faux diagnosis on top of it. Some of you are just pot-stirring a$$holes who make me sympathetic to the family members who have to deal with you.
Oh no don’t misunderstand. I am not judging her trauma in any way. That sounds terrible! But the idea that she went though what mostly likely is not nearly as traumatic as what others are going through, yet thinks that we can all just get over our traumas if we just “choose” is wrong.
I find it kind of wild that you would i chastise my comment not hers, by the way. She said our early environments should not impact our adulthoods and if they do, it’s just because we are choosing that kind of life. That’s a really cruel thing to say.
Stop it. She said her sister "beat the living daylights out of me" and your response is: "Lol *that* was your trauma?" and then you nastily recommended more therapy for her. Ugh.
Again, you shouldn't be getting into the "my trauma is worse than your trauma" game. Nor should you be delivering your unprofessional diagnoses over the interwebs.
While I have tons of compassion for most people on this thread, in your case I'll save my compassion for your family.
That's just mean. This is an anonymous board and you don't know what pp has experienced. This is a thread about verbal and emotional abuse, we should show each poster some compassion.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
I also believe that we can get over our trama(s) if we do choose. My older sister blamed me for our mother's death and used to beat the living daylights out of me. I made a choice many years ago that I could move on from her and problems.
Those who choose to live in the past have no future.
Lol *that* was your trauma? You think that because you got over that, people who from the time they were toddlers were constantly called horrible names by their parents, screamed at all the time, blamed for the parent’s problems, etc should just be able to “get over it” too?
That’s ridiculous and I don’t think you’re over your trauma. Go back to therapy.
Wow, just wow. I'm not that pp, but how dare you judge somebody else's trauma? And then you pile your faux diagnosis on top of it. Some of you are just pot-stirring a$$holes who make me sympathetic to the family members who have to deal with you.
Oh no don’t misunderstand. I am not judging her trauma in any way. That sounds terrible! But the idea that she went though what mostly likely is not nearly as traumatic as what others are going through, yet thinks that we can all just get over our traumas if we just “choose” is wrong.
I find it kind of wild that you would i chastise my comment not hers, by the way. She said our early environments should not impact our adulthoods and if they do, it’s just because we are choosing that kind of life. That’s a really cruel thing to say.
Stop it. She said her sister "beat the living daylights out of me" and your response is: "Lol *that* was your trauma?" and then you nastily recommended more therapy for her. Ugh.
Again, you shouldn't be getting into the "my trauma is worse than your trauma" game. Nor should you be delivering your unprofessional diagnoses over the interwebs.
While I have tons of compassion for most people on this thread, in your case I'll save my compassion for your family.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
I also believe that we can get over our trama(s) if we do choose. My older sister blamed me for our mother's death and used to beat the living daylights out of me. I made a choice many years ago that I could move on from her and problems.
Those who choose to live in the past have no future.
Lol *that* was your trauma? You think that because you got over that, people who from the time they were toddlers were constantly called horrible names by their parents, screamed at all the time, blamed for the parent’s problems, etc should just be able to “get over it” too?
That’s ridiculous and I don’t think you’re over your trauma. Go back to therapy.
Wow, just wow. I'm not that pp, but how dare you judge somebody else's trauma? And then you pile your faux diagnosis on top of it. Some of you are just pot-stirring a$$holes who make me sympathetic to the family members who have to deal with you.
Oh no don’t misunderstand. I am not judging her trauma in any way. That sounds terrible! But the idea that she went though what mostly likely is not nearly as traumatic as what others are going through, yet thinks that we can all just get over our traumas if we just “choose” is wrong.
I find it kind of wild that you would i chastise my comment not hers, by the way. She said our early environments should not impact our adulthoods and if they do, it’s just because we are choosing that kind of life. That’s a really cruel thing to say.
Stop it. She said her sister "beat the living daylights out of me" and your response is: "Lol *that* was your trauma?" and then you nastily recommended more therapy for her. Ugh.
Again, you shouldn't be getting into the "my trauma is worse than your trauma" game. Nor should you be delivering your unprofessional diagnoses over the interwebs.
While I have tons of compassion for most people on this thread, in your case I'll save my compassion for your family.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
I also believe that we can get over our trama(s) if we do choose. My older sister blamed me for our mother's death and used to beat the living daylights out of me. I made a choice many years ago that I could move on from her and problems.
Those who choose to live in the past have no future.
Lol *that* was your trauma? You think that because you got over that, people who from the time they were toddlers were constantly called horrible names by their parents, screamed at all the time, blamed for the parent’s problems, etc should just be able to “get over it” too?
That’s ridiculous and I don’t think you’re over your trauma. Go back to therapy.
Wow, just wow. I'm not that pp, but how dare you judge somebody else's trauma? And then you pile your faux diagnosis on top of it. Some of you are just pot-stirring a$$holes who make me sympathetic to the family members who have to deal with you.
Oh no don’t misunderstand. I am not judging her trauma in any way. That sounds terrible! But the idea that she went though what mostly likely is not nearly as traumatic as what others are going through, yet thinks that we can all just get over our traumas if we just “choose” is wrong.
I find it kind of wild that you would i chastise my comment not hers, by the way. She said our early environments should not impact our adulthoods and if they do, it’s just because we are choosing that kind of life. That’s a really cruel thing to say.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
I also believe that we can get over our trama(s) if we do choose. My older sister blamed me for our mother's death and used to beat the living daylights out of me. I made a choice many years ago that I could move on from her and problems.
Those who choose to live in the past have no future.
Lol *that* was your trauma? You think that because you got over that, people who from the time they were toddlers were constantly called horrible names by their parents, screamed at all the time, blamed for the parent’s problems, etc should just be able to “get over it” too?
That’s ridiculous and I don’t think you’re over your trauma. Go back to therapy.
Wow, just wow. I'm not that pp, but how dare you judge somebody else's trauma? And then you pile your faux diagnosis on top of it. Some of you are just pot-stirring a$$holes who make me sympathetic to the family members who have to deal with you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh, OP. I just don't have the energy to say all of the things but I hear you. I'm with you on this.
It's all so hard and to those that suggest therapy, I've been through over half a dozen therapists in 15 years and I've never felt like it did much. I'd just talk and talk for an hour and then it's like "see you next week!"
I've found much more relief from symptoms stemming from my childhood traumas and abusive marriage in yoga asana, breathwork and meditation. The Body Keeps the Score, mentioned above, has a really beautiful chapter related to this.
But I'd love to hear from others if I'm doing something wrong regarding talk therapy. I always felt like that couldn't be helpful for anyone so what is the appeal, exactly?
I’m the one who mentioned the body keeps the score. The author in the video I linked said that there are many ways of healing from trauma and everybody is going to need different things, but just having a relationship with somebody who is safe and nonjudgmental and can know our story and say “that was terrible what happened to you” can be really good. I don’t think it has to be a therapist but the vast majority of people are judgmental and minimize trauma. And then once you can sort of go back to that headspace while you are feeling safe, you can re-wire your body to realize that that was then and not now.
I have had very meh experiences with therapy but I’m trying again with somebody who is supposedly using a trauma-informed approach. I think he is helping me see how bad things really were, and of course we are going to do mindfulness, emotional regulation, and distress tolerance exercises. But I imagine that I will need yoga and such too. I am glad to hear it worked for you. I have been meaning to get around to finding a way to practice and your comment is motivating.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
I also believe that we can get over our trama(s) if we do choose. My older sister blamed me for our mother's death and used to beat the living daylights out of me. I made a choice many years ago that I could move on from her and problems.
Those who choose to live in the past have no future.
Lol *that* was your trauma? You think that because you got over that, people who from the time they were toddlers were constantly called horrible names by their parents, screamed at all the time, blamed for the parent’s problems, etc should just be able to “get over it” too?
That’s ridiculous and I don’t think you’re over your trauma. Go back to therapy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of people wallowing in self pity. No one has a perfect parent, not even you are a perfect parent and your children will have complaints about you.
Adults do not live in the past.
Do you not believe that trauma is a thing? That our early environments can impact us into adulthood? Because you would be wrong.
DP. Living in the past doesn’t help with healing. Recognize what you’ve been through, name it, and then find a way to move forward.
Well yeah. The problem with being traumatized is that it keeps you living in the past. It keeps impacting you until you are able to heal. But what do you think “recognizing what have have lived through” means? Just….never talking about it? Never complaining? No. Confronting the past, processing it, etc is part of what is required to move past it. This is not a fast process. If you want to call it “wallowing in self-pity,” fine, but you could also just say nothing.
And what is with these parents of adult children jumping in and lecturing people who complain about their childhoods? Unless you’re OP’s mom it’s bizarre to get so defensive.
Agree. Definitely seems like projection.
Except it's not project, at least in my case. You trying to dismiss concerns about your behavior is what's concerning.
PP, I typed 5 words. What is it you imagine I've done?
Anybody else starting to suspect some of these traumatized adult children are trolls?
No, but I believe the "pity party" Trauma llama" "stop living in the past" name calling posters are sh#t stirring low key narcissist who feel seen in some of the traumatized posters' stories. If you possess self awareness, you can change. Stop abusing your family members and keep your abuse off of this thread, please and thank you.
All these remote diagnoses, with their self-serving outcomes, don't bode well for the mental health of these posters.