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Anonymous wrote:It is the #7 school in the only ranking that matters to the overwhelming majority of people. That alone makes JHU desirable. Based on the formulas USNWR uses, that ranking is likely to go up.

I like JHU but it struggles to win students from other schools despite whatever US News ranks it, which indicates US News isn't really that influential and the perceptions of schools that people have are fairly fixed. Obviously it loses to Harvard, MIT, and Princeton by a lot, but here's how it fairs against some other top schools:

Some of the Ivy League

Johns Hopkins 16% - Yale 84%
Johns Hopkins 19% - Columbia 81%
Johns Hopkins 41% - Dartmouth 59%
Johns Hopkins 49% - Cornell 51%

The closest Johns Hopkins gets to winning a cross-admit battle is with Cornell, otherwise it gets handily defeated. It also does quite well against Dartmouth.

Some of the Top Non-Ivy League

Johns Hopkins 15% - Stanford 85%
Johns Hopkins 19% - Duke 81%
Johns Hopkins 31% - UChicago 69%
Johns Hopkins 35% - Northwestern 65%
Johns Hopkins 44% - Rice 56%
Johns Hopkins 53% - WashU 47%
Johns Hopkins 61% - Vanderbilt 39%

It looks like Johns Hopkins is closer to schools like Rice, WashU, and Vanderbilt than the tippy-top schools like Stanford and Duke which are better than most of the Ivies anyways.

Anonymous wrote:This tier breakdown is more accurate:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Anonymous wrote:In’s surprised it’s done that well against Dartmouth

Anonymous wrote:It is the #7 school in the only ranking that matters to the overwhelming majority of people. That alone makes JHU desirable. Based on the formulas USNWR uses, that ranking is likely to go up.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is obviously a very good school, but it's particularly renowned for MD. I'm sure there's some advantages that pre-meds have as well due to having two major medical research universities located in the city, in both research and shadowing opportunities.

Beyond pre-med, it's not particularly known for anything else academically or career-wise. It does not have a big tech/engineering culture and isn't a hotspot for tech startups, incubators or recruiting into top tech firms. It doesn't have the network or history of recruitment into Wall Street finance firms and Big 3 consulting firms and its MBA is extremely mediocre. It's not particularly renowned for political activism although that's a positive. It doesn't have a law school although that's probably another positive. The last two points probably lead to the lack of Hopkins alumni in Congress.

A lot of the high ranking that Hopkins gets is due to programs that undergrad students get zero access to because it's in a different city altogether and requires car + commute time to access. The federal government's Applied Physics Lab is run by Hopkins and brings in the biggest federal research dollars along with the medical school, but it's in Laurel - a 30 minute drive minimum during non-commute hours. SAIS is Hopkin's graduate school for international relations, is among the best along with Georgetown's and Harvard's, but it's based in DC - an hour drive minimum during non-commute hours. With the APL, perhaps Hopkins undergrads get some benefit with the few professors that teach in both locations, but the greatest benefit of top professors is working directly in their research labs. With SAIS, the top professors all live in DC and do not professors care much about teaching undergrads in a city an hour away.

The campus is mediocre with a very cramped quad. The architecture is mediocre.

The city is the worst out of all the top universities. Not because it's boring, but because it's outright dangerous and rundown. There's relatively safe development near the harbor, but it is a small area and everywhere else is terrible. What could be amazing night-outs turn out to be outright dangerous.

The lack of Division 1 sports and terrible Greek Life is an advantage as far as I'm concerned. Baltimore has major sports teams with the Orioles and the Ravens. Greeks are about 30% of the population which is the threshold where they dominate the campus culture, which is unfortunate.

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So much of this is flat out wrong, it’s difficult to know where to start. There are three academic quads at Hopkins and one residential quad so not sure which of those you claim is cramped but I guess is you just aren’t very familiar with the campus at all, or the city for that matter of you think “one area” is safe.

I'm referring to the main quad Keyser, which you'd know of if you attended or knew anyone that attended. The other "quads" are smaller and even more cramped.

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Hopkins has Division 1 men and women’s lacrosse. The other sports are D3 but in recent years, the football team has won 40 consecutive games and has ibeen ranked in the top 20 in d3 on several occasions, the baseball team is often ranked in the T25, and the swimming and track teams always do well in the NCAA championship meets.

Okay? When people refer to Division 1 sports, they tend to mean P5 football and basketball, neither of which Hopkins has. I specifically said D1 sports are an unnecessary part of a college so not sure what you are refuting here.

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You claim that it’s engineering and tech programs are week. US News ranks Hopkins undergrad engineering 13th and biomedical engineering 1st. Bio computing/bioinformatics is ranked 4th. Hopkins is ranked 12th for undergraduate research,

Where did I say that Hopkins' engineering programs are weak? I said that it's not particularly known for anything outside of medical-related fields, and that it does not have a big tech/engineering culture and isn't a hotspot for tech startups, incubators or recruiting into top tech firms.

Both Biomedical engineering and Biocomputing/bioinformatics are a medical-related fields, so you are only proving my point.

The engineering program is ranked 13th, tied with U. Wisconsin and Texas A&M, below UIUC, Purdue and UT-Austin, and slightly above Virginia Tech. It's nothing to write home about and heavily overshadowed by the medical school.

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I could go on and on but it is clear that you have little knowledge about Hopkins.

Seems to me like your knowledge of Hopkins is based off of reading US News.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys are idiots. It’s also top ranked in public policy, economics, etc. It’s hospital and medical research are world renowned, but it’s global policy program is renowned world wide too.

What ranking are you using? The public affairs school is ranked 35, same as UMD. Its Economics program is ranked 22, same as UMD.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-public-affairs-schools/public-affairs-rankings?_sort=rank-asc
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings?_sort=rank-asc

It's ranked 4 for Global Policy and Administration Programs, but that is for the graduate school SAIS which is based in DC, 1 hour away during off-peak hours by car. SAIS professors live in DC so the undergrads in Baltimore get little to no benefit from the graduate school.

Actually some SAIS professors teach at the undergrad campus and the 5 year ba/ma program is popular. Hopkins also has campuses in Bologna and Beijing.

The few that do will be the ones just starting out, not the world-renowned ones that gets Hopkins it's top 4 ranking.

I'm sure the BA/MA program is great but not particularly advantageous over Georgetown or Columbia, which both have 5-year BA/MA programs and are located in much better cities for anything international policy-related as an undergrad.

Spending 4 years in a school you do not want to go to just so you can get into the 1-year masters programs seems to be overkill, especially when that student could probably get into a top masters elsewhere in Harvard, Columbia or Georgetown.

You remain clueless, it’s a 3/2 split, not a 4/1. To you always go on and on about topics you know nothing about?

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Anonymous wrote:From another post, the college tiers:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Bad tiers.

I found the tiers to be spot on, what would you change?

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Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is obviously a very good school, but it's particularly renowned for MD. I'm sure there's some advantages that pre-meds have as well due to having two major medical research universities located in the city, in both research and shadowing opportunities.

Beyond pre-med, it's not particularly known for anything else academically or career-wise. It does not have a big tech/engineering culture and isn't a hotspot for tech startups, incubators or recruiting into top tech firms. It doesn't have the network or history of recruitment into Wall Street finance firms and Big 3 consulting firms and its MBA is extremely mediocre. It's not particularly renowned for political activism although that's a positive. It doesn't have a law school although that's probably another positive. The last two points probably lead to the lack of Hopkins alumni in Congress.

A lot of the high ranking that Hopkins gets is due to programs that undergrad students get zero access to because it's in a different city altogether and requires car + commute time to access. The federal government's Applied Physics Lab is run by Hopkins and brings in the biggest federal research dollars along with the medical school, but it's in Laurel - a 30 minute drive minimum during non-commute hours. SAIS is Hopkin's graduate school for international relations, is among the best along with Georgetown's and Harvard's, but it's based in DC - an hour drive minimum during non-commute hours. With the APL, perhaps Hopkins undergrads get some benefit with the few professors that teach in both locations, but the greatest benefit of top professors is working directly in their research labs. With SAIS, the top professors all live in DC and do not professors care much about teaching undergrads in a city an hour away.

The campus is mediocre with a very cramped quad. The architecture is mediocre.

The city is the worst out of all the top universities. Not because it's boring, but because it's outright dangerous and rundown. There's relatively safe development near the harbor, but it is a small area and everywhere else is terrible. What could be amazing night-outs turn out to be outright dangerous.

The lack of Division 1 sports and terrible Greek Life is an advantage as far as I'm concerned. Baltimore has major sports teams with the Orioles and the Ravens. Greeks are about 30% of the population which is the threshold where they dominate the campus culture, which is unfortunate.

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So much of this is flat out wrong, it’s difficult to know where to start. There are three academic quads at Hopkins and one residential quad so not sure which of those you claim is cramped but I guess is you just aren’t very familiar with the campus at all, or the city for that matter of you think “one area” is safe.

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Hopkins has Division 1 men and women’s lacrosse. The other sports are D3 but in recent years, the football team has won 40 consecutive games and has ibeen ranked in the top 20 in d3 on several occasions, the baseball team is often ranked in the T25, and the swimming and track teams always do well in the NCAA championship meets.

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You claim that it’s engineering and tech programs are week. US News ranks Hopkins undergrad engineering 13th and biomedical engineering 1st. Bio computing/bioinformatics is ranked 4th. Hopkins is ranked 12th for undergraduate research,

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I could go on and on but it is clear that you have little knowledge about Hopkins.