Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is the CNN article
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/entertainment/velma-scooby-doo-gay/index.html
I guess I really don’t understand why Velma needs to “come out” in a kids Halloween cartoon. Why does she need to identify as anything? Is her crush on a girl really need to be part of the storyline for a kids holiday movie? No qualms with whatever people decide it right for them sexually, this just seems like an odd choice for a Halloween storyline
+1.
I know the show paired Fred and Daphne, but when i was a kid I don't remember them being a couple. It's a cartoon. for kids. Just let it be a cartoon for kids without any romantic relationships.
And I'm also going to spout the unpopular opinion that LGBTIA is being overdone/oversaturation. Especially the transgender piece. It's a small slice of the population. Sort of unrelated, but it's the same thing behind Drag Queen story hour - why?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is the CNN article
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/entertainment/velma-scooby-doo-gay/index.html
I guess I really don’t understand why Velma needs to “come out” in a kids Halloween cartoon. Why does she need to identify as anything? Is her crush on a girl really need to be part of the storyline for a kids holiday movie? No qualms with whatever people decide it right for them sexually, this just seems like an odd choice for a Halloween storyline
+1.
I know the show paired Fred and Daphne, but when i was a kid I don't remember them being a couple. It's a cartoon. for kids. Just let it be a cartoon for kids without any romantic relationships.
And I'm also going to spout the unpopular opinion that LGBTIA is being overdone/oversaturation. Especially the transgender piece. It's a small slice of the population. Sort of unrelated, but it's the same thing behind Drag Queen story hour - why?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I loved the show as a kid and never once wondered or thought about the sexual identity of the characters. I don’t understand the need to define them now in the show- can’t they just solve mysteries and eat Scooby snacks?
Daphne & Fred were a couple in the show, so you always knew their sexual identity. Why is that one “OK”?
I watched Scooby Doo in preschool and early elementary. I didn’t know there was such a thing as a sexual identity. I didn’t know the mechanics of sex. I certainly had never experienced sexual attraction to anyone of either gender. I knew that couples kissed (which to me meant a peck, it wasn’t until years later I learned tongues could be involved), but to my best recollection, Fred and Daphne never kissed.
So in your mind, Fred and Daphne will still be chaste heterosexuals - but clearly now that Velma is out she'll basically be having porn because that's what it means for a character not to be heterosexual?
What if she's exactly the same as she was, only now we know she's gay. Does that make you feel funny in your private parts?
No, and I find that offensive.
My point is that sexual identity for ALL the characters on this specific show, since it was designed for young kids and never involved anything remotely sexual, should be moot. I don’t think Fred or Daphne should be declared heterosexual. I don’t think Velma should be declared homosexual. I think they should all just continue to be a bunch of platonic friends solving mysteries.
I remember an episode of the Rugrats from 1992 probably where Angelica (a pre-schooler) has a heterosexual crush on an “older” kindergarten boy. You would find that offensive too right?
DP. I don't find it offensive, but maybe unnecessary. I didn't let my kids watch Monster High because it was simply an animated soap opera. My kindergartener didn't need to be introduced to high school romances, monsters or not.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I loved the show as a kid and never once wondered or thought about the sexual identity of the characters. I don’t understand the need to define them now in the show- can’t they just solve mysteries and eat Scooby snacks?
Daphne & Fred were a couple in the show, so you always knew their sexual identity. Why is that one “OK”?
I watched Scooby Doo in preschool and early elementary. I didn’t know there was such a thing as a sexual identity. I didn’t know the mechanics of sex. I certainly had never experienced sexual attraction to anyone of either gender. I knew that couples kissed (which to me meant a peck, it wasn’t until years later I learned tongues could be involved), but to my best recollection, Fred and Daphne never kissed.
So in your mind, Fred and Daphne will still be chaste heterosexuals - but clearly now that Velma is out she'll basically be having porn because that's what it means for a character not to be heterosexual?
What if she's exactly the same as she was, only now we know she's gay. Does that make you feel funny in your private parts?
No, and I find that offensive.
My point is that sexual identity for ALL the characters on this specific show, since it was designed for young kids and never involved anything remotely sexual, should be moot. I don’t think Fred or Daphne should be declared heterosexual. I don’t think Velma should be declared homosexual. I think they should all just continue to be a bunch of platonic friends solving mysteries.
I remember an episode of the Rugrats from 1992 probably where Angelica (a pre-schooler) has a heterosexual crush on an “older” kindergarten boy. You would find that offensive too right?
Anonymous wrote:Here is the CNN article
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/entertainment/velma-scooby-doo-gay/index.html
I guess I really don’t understand why Velma needs to “come out” in a kids Halloween cartoon. Why does she need to identify as anything? Is her crush on a girl really need to be part of the storyline for a kids holiday movie? No qualms with whatever people decide it right for them sexually, this just seems like an odd choice for a Halloween storyline
Anonymous wrote:Of course she does. What else do you expect from Holly weird.
Easy way to check off the box. You have to have a certain amount of 'diversity' in a movie these days. Take a normal character and make them LGBTQ is an easy way to fill the prerequisites.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I loved the show as a kid and never once wondered or thought about the sexual identity of the characters. I don’t understand the need to define them now in the show- can’t they just solve mysteries and eat Scooby snacks?
Daphne & Fred were a couple in the show, so you always knew their sexual identity. Why is that one “OK”?
I watched Scooby Doo in preschool and early elementary. I didn’t know there was such a thing as a sexual identity. I didn’t know the mechanics of sex. I certainly had never experienced sexual attraction to anyone of either gender. I knew that couples kissed (which to me meant a peck, it wasn’t until years later I learned tongues could be involved), but to my best recollection, Fred and Daphne never kissed.
So in your mind, Fred and Daphne will still be chaste heterosexuals - but clearly now that Velma is out she'll basically be having porn because that's what it means for a character not to be heterosexual?
What if she's exactly the same as she was, only now we know she's gay. Does that make you feel funny in your private parts?
No, and I find that offensive.
My point is that sexual identity for ALL the characters on this specific show, since it was designed for young kids and never involved anything remotely sexual, should be moot. I don’t think Fred or Daphne should be declared heterosexual. I don’t think Velma should be declared homosexual. I think they should all just continue to be a bunch of platonic friends solving mysteries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us dream about the day when our kids see a gay character on TV and think nothing of it. Just like they think nothing of seeing characters with different skin colors and physical abilities. But that only happens if they actually do see gay characters on TV.
Do you censor children’s shows that have black characters or characters who use wheelchairs - until they can “understand” those differences?
Or are those shows OK because you’re not afraid they’ll turn your kid black or paraplegic?
I’m betting there’s a lot of overlap between these posters and the parents who are outraged that the star of the new Little Mermaid movie is Black.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I loved the show as a kid and never once wondered or thought about the sexual identity of the characters. I don’t understand the need to define them now in the show- can’t they just solve mysteries and eat Scooby snacks?
Daphne & Fred were a couple in the show, so you always knew their sexual identity. Why is that one “OK”?
I watched Scooby Doo in preschool and early elementary. I didn’t know there was such a thing as a sexual identity. I didn’t know the mechanics of sex. I certainly had never experienced sexual attraction to anyone of either gender. I knew that couples kissed (which to me meant a peck, it wasn’t until years later I learned tongues could be involved), but to my best recollection, Fred and Daphne never kissed.
So in your mind, Fred and Daphne will still be chaste heterosexuals - but clearly now that Velma is out she'll basically be having porn because that's what it means for a character not to be heterosexual?
What if she's exactly the same as she was, only now we know she's gay. Does that make you feel funny in your private parts?
No, and I find that offensive.
My point is that sexual identity for ALL the characters on this specific show, since it was designed for young kids and never involved anything remotely sexual, should be moot. I don’t think Fred or Daphne should be declared heterosexual. I don’t think Velma should be declared homosexual. I think they should all just continue to be a bunch of platonic friends solving mysteries.
Anonymous wrote:Many of us dream about the day when our kids see a gay character on TV and think nothing of it. Just like they think nothing of seeing characters with different skin colors and physical abilities. But that only happens if they actually do see gay characters on TV.
Do you censor children’s shows that have black characters or characters who use wheelchairs - until they can “understand” those differences?
Or are those shows OK because you’re not afraid they’ll turn your kid black or paraplegic?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.![]()
She looks pretty hetro hot here…
It takes a special kind of idiot to think you've disproved her queerness by pointing out she's pretty.
DP. I agree with you, but then why are so many saying they knew she (or, say, Peppermint Patty) were gay all along? What’s the tell if not their physical appearance?
She has the bisexual bob
What? Now because half the swim team has bibs they all have ti explain their not Bi??