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Anonymous wrote:I avoid IAD if I can. Worst airport.

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We don't need a 4th airport. It's just that IAD is really terrible. Nothing worse than getting crammed into those weird shuttle buses between terminals after a long international flight. Tear it down and rebuild from scratch.

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I've never ever been to a major airport as bad as Dulles - it's just embarrassing on so many fronts but particularly that it's an int'l airport as it makes us look ridiculous. The stupid trams where people rightfully crowd around the door rather than go in since you have to leave the same way you enter. The low ceilings. The crappy food options. The lack of enough electronic walkways. Awful awful awful.

Dulles is actually queued up to fix all of their problems if they can work something out with United to pay for a replacement of the C/D terminal which was supposed to be temporary and is now 40 years old.

The underground train system stop for C/D is such a long walk because they located it under where the future C/D terminal is supposed to be and once the new C/D is opened that is essentially supposed to be the end of the awful people movers because everyone will be able to take the train.

No one is investing in terminals C/D because it is slated to be replaced so it is just an awful terminal.

B is actually quite nice and functional.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps a 4th airport can be put in Frederick. That would probably require an expansion of that crossing from Loudoun.

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Anonymous wrote:Dulles has domestic flights as well, and is woefully otherwise underutilized.

Where exactly would this 4th airport be located?

Manassas where the current regional airport is located.

The metro doesn't go to Manassas.

Doesn’t go to BWI either. What’s the point?

Yeah. BWI sucks. Such a PITA. We don’t need another inaccessible airport in BFE.

How is BWI inaccessible? Are you just talking about public transportation?

NP, to most of Virginia BWI is pretty inaccessible because the beltway is such a disaster. And our public transport is build with a hub and spokes, so you have to go to DC then transfer usually. BWI was somewhat doable when I lived in DC, but now that I'm in VA? No way.

Anonymous wrote:I really wish we could take the train to more places. For instance, my family would like to go to NYC, Boston, Philly, or south to places like Charleston, New Orleans. Driving is a problem because parking is problematic in big cities. For my family though, trains are usually 2-3x the price of plane tickets and take a lot longer.

We like IAD a lot. Direct flights to nearly everywhere we want to go! But IAD also doesn't have any low cost flights like DCA and BWI have. Every time I price out flights, DCA and BWI are cheaper.

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Anonymous wrote:Dulles has domestic flights as well, and is woefully otherwise underutilized.

Where exactly would this 4th airport be located?

Manassas where the current regional airport is located.

The metro doesn't go to Manassas.

Doesn’t go to BWI either. What’s the point?

Yeah. BWI sucks. Such a PITA. We don’t need another inaccessible airport in BFE.

Different strokes.

I'm not a business traveler and I love flying out of BWI. I consider it to be in inconvenience to fly out of DCA and it is a royal PITA to get out to IAD and fly from there. I had to do that a couple of years ago and it was torturous. You want to talk about inaccessible. The Beltway and the Dulles toll road are a major hassle to deal with, you have to park in Tennessee to use the airport and factor in a boatload of time to get from the daily parking lot to the terminal. And every stupid gate takes like 45 min to get to from the terminal. The reason we were going there was our flight from BWI was canceled and we could only get a replacement in time from IAD. But the difference was huge. Once on the grounds of IAD, it took twice as much time to get to the terminal there, get checked in, and out to our gate as it took to do so at BWI. IAD was very inefficient to traverse.

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Anonymous wrote:BWI is a great airport.

Best thing about BWI is how crazy cheap long-term parking is. You can park for 2 weeks and still save money over an Uber or taxi.

+1 I'm the "hate IAD" poster. I much prefer BWI but since it's small, and not a hub, the destinations aren't that varied. But, I much prefer flying out of BWI to LHR than IAD. Better flight times, too.

Okay. It's fine if you want to style yourself as a "BWI booster," but please. Get real. BWI has one daily flight offered by BA four times a week that is heavily subsidized by the State of Maryland. IAD has multiple flights each day offered by BA, United, and Virgin Atlantic. To suggest that BWI has better flight times is complete BS.

DP. What does your point have to do with PPs? Does a subsidy somehow make it less convenient? Why are you so angry at BWI?

NP. What a strange response. Who's angry? I happen to agree with the PP's point, which was clearly saying that it's ridiculous to suggest that BWI is somehow competitive or even preferable to Dulles when it comes to international service.

Both airports serve their purpose in the region.

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Anonymous wrote:BWI is a great airport.

It may be a great airport for budget and ultra-low-cost passengers, but it sucks for business travel.

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Anonymous wrote:Dulles has domestic flights as well, and is woefully otherwise underutilized.

Where exactly would this 4th airport be located?

Manassas where the current regional airport is located.

The metro doesn't go to Manassas.

Doesn’t go to BWI either. What’s the point?

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Anonymous wrote:I avoid IAD if I can. Worst airport.

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We don't need a 4th airport. It's just that IAD is really terrible. Nothing worse than getting crammed into those weird shuttle buses between terminals after a long international flight. Tear it down and rebuild from scratch.

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I've never ever been to a major airport as bad as Dulles - it's just embarrassing on so many fronts but particularly that it's an int'l airport as it makes us look ridiculous. The stupid trams where people rightfully crowd around the door rather than go in since you have to leave the same way you enter. The low ceilings. The crappy food options. The lack of enough electronic walkways. Awful awful awful.

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Anonymous wrote:To reply to the OP, we have built out the infrastructure for airports.
The truth is, we now need quality high speed rail in the DC region.
DC to NYC needs to be vastly improved.
And we really need to go south to Charlotte and Atlanta with high speed rail.
Also, DC to Pittsburgh to Cleveland would also be a good starting route
There's a great old book on this subject called Supertrains by Joseph Vranich that has maps on where high speed rail should go in the USA.
https://www.amazon.com/Supertrains-Solutions-Americas-Transportation-Gridlock/dp/0312064764/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=supertrains&qid=1664968101&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjAwIiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&s=books&sr=1-1

High speed rail would really help local flights of 400 miles or less.

Not really an option given what we are seeing now at the stations with crime and homelessness.

Anonymous wrote:To reply to the OP, we have built out the infrastructure for airports.
The truth is, we now need quality high speed rail in the DC region.
DC to NYC needs to be vastly improved.
And we really need to go south to Charlotte and Atlanta with high speed rail.
Also, DC to Pittsburgh to Cleveland would also be a good starting route
There's a great old book on this subject called Supertrains by Joseph Vranich that has maps on where high speed rail should go in the USA.
https://www.amazon.com/Supertrains-Solutions-Americas-Transportation-Gridlock/dp/0312064764/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=supertrains&qid=1664968101&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjAwIiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&s=books&sr=1-1

High speed rail would really help local flights of 400 miles or less.

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Anonymous wrote:If NYC can get by with three airports, the DC area can, too.

L.A., too.

LA has 4 major airports: LAX, Burbank, Ontario & Orange County.

All 4 are major?

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Anonymous wrote:Dulles has domestic flights as well, and is woefully otherwise underutilized.

Where exactly would this 4th airport be located?

Manassas where the current regional airport is located.

The metro doesn't go to Manassas.

Doesn’t go to BWI either. What’s the point?

Yeah. BWI sucks. Such a PITA. We don’t need another inaccessible airport in BFE.

Anonymous wrote:I fly DCA constantly. It is an amazing airport. The only time I contemplate using a different one is for international trips. Otherwise it is almost perfect.