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Anonymous wrote:OP, can you casually accompany her to the hair salon and comment on a magazine with various hair styles?

Am I the only one who would be way more annoyed with passive aggressive moves like this one than knowing my husband wasn't a fan of my haircut? I really dislike it when DH doesn't like something I'm doing but will beat around the bush so that he has plausible deniability, rather than just saying what he thinks. I want to know where I stand rather than having to wonder.

I'm a guy, and the conversation wouldn't be about hair, but I totally agree about hating the passive aggressive communication style. You can be direct and matter-of-fact without being accusatory or demanding. That kind of communication is way better than hinting or indirectly stating preferences and hoping your spouse reads your mind.

Side note: People seems confused about passive aggression. I haven't seen a single passive aggressive suggestion on here, just suggestions for white lies and hints. Passive aggressive would be DH pretending to confuse his wife for a man, or saying things like "I was going to buy you a beautiful hair barrette, but then I realized that you cut your hair too short for things like that."

You may prefer direct communication, but that doesn't automatically make all indirect communication "passive aggressive".

Exactly: I am a woman and often go to hair salon with my mother and son. It would be weird and sound criticizing to comment on their hair style at home. But at the hair salon there is an appropriate time and venue to discuss styles and options

Anonymous wrote:https://www.thetrendspotter.net/karen-haircut/
Here's what they look like.

I have a hairstylist friend who actually specializes in "the Karen", lol. Most women get them because they don't have time to style their hair everyday, or need something low maintanance on a daily basis. They do require a lot of cutting / trims, so that's more money for the stylist, less daily time for the woman.

The Kate Gosselin cut is awful now, as it was awful then. But many of these cuts are just shorter women's cuts that look to me like what all the newscasters used to wear, and many professional women (like the last three). It's sort of shitty to tell white middle aged women that they all have to have long hair or they will look like a "Karen" -- I don't have one of those cuts, but I think they are a legitimate, easy care, flattering cut for many women, especially when middle-aged hormones start to wreak havoc on your hair.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, can you casually accompany her to the hair salon and comment on a magazine with various hair styles?

Am I the only one who would be way more annoyed with passive aggressive moves like this one than knowing my husband wasn't a fan of my haircut? I really dislike it when DH doesn't like something I'm doing but will beat around the bush so that he has plausible deniability, rather than just saying what he thinks. I want to know where I stand rather than having to wonder.

I'm a guy, and the conversation wouldn't be about hair, but I totally agree about hating the passive aggressive communication style. You can be direct and matter-of-fact without being accusatory or demanding. That kind of communication is way better than hinting or indirectly stating preferences and hoping your spouse reads your mind.

Side note: People seems confused about passive aggression. I haven't seen a single passive aggressive suggestion on here, just suggestions for white lies and hints. Passive aggressive would be DH pretending to confuse his wife for a man, or saying things like "I was going to buy you a beautiful hair barrette, but then I realized that you cut your hair too short for things like that."

You may prefer direct communication, but that doesn't automatically make all indirect communication "passive aggressive".

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Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

Yes but a lot of them are tall and thin. The average American woman is not Charlize Theron. Short hair on a short chubby woman doesn't look great.

Long unkempt hair look awful on any women, even on beauties! I see sometimes women in their 40-50s with extremely long hair (they probably thin it makes them look like Kim Kardashian). The hair is grey, no style at all and honestly they just look like witches. Andie McDowell style is nothing glamorous to me, makes her look much older!

I wear my hair shoulder length and even this long it takes a lot of care. Daily hair blower, vitamins, coloring etc.

You have difficult hair. Mine is bra strap long, thick, light brunette with baliage. I always air dry it and the maintenance is NBD - I love the olaplex 2 mask and the K18. Long hair looks good only if it's thick and healthy.

It's balayage

Gesundheit.

Do you wear hair extensions?

No. I'm a very bald man. Hadn't heard the term before. I was just having a little joke about my ignorance.

Why did you say then you had balayage done on your hair? So weird. I am getting lost in this hair discussion .

Sorry, I'm a different poster who interrupted the exchange with the earlier person who was talking about her hair.

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Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

Yes but a lot of them are tall and thin. The average American woman is not Charlize Theron. Short hair on a short chubby woman doesn't look great.

Long unkempt hair look awful on any women, even on beauties! I see sometimes women in their 40-50s with extremely long hair (they probably thin it makes them look like Kim Kardashian). The hair is grey, no style at all and honestly they just look like witches. Andie McDowell style is nothing glamorous to me, makes her look much older!

I wear my hair shoulder length and even this long it takes a lot of care. Daily hair blower, vitamins, coloring etc.

You have difficult hair. Mine is bra strap long, thick, light brunette with baliage. I always air dry it and the maintenance is NBD - I love the olaplex 2 mask and the K18. Long hair looks good only if it's thick and healthy.

It's balayage

Gesundheit.

Do you wear hair extensions?

No. I'm a very bald man. Hadn't heard the term before. I was just having a little joke about my ignorance.

Why did you say then you had balayage done on your hair? So weird. I am getting lost in this hair discussion .

Anonymous wrote:https://www.thetrendspotter.net/karen-haircut/
Here's what they look like.

I have a hairstylist friend who actually specializes in "the Karen", lol. Most women get them because they don't have time to style their hair everyday, or need something low maintanance on a daily basis. They do require a lot of cutting / trims, so that's more money for the stylist, less daily time for the woman.

On my hair such a haircut would definitely mean more daily work with hair blower.

https://www.thetrendspotter.net/karen-haircut/
Here's what they look like.

I have a hairstylist friend who actually specializes in "the Karen", lol. Most women get them because they don't have time to style their hair everyday, or need something low maintanance on a daily basis. They do require a lot of cutting / trims, so that's more money for the stylist, less daily time for the woman.

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Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

Yes but a lot of them are tall and thin. The average American woman is not Charlize Theron. Short hair on a short chubby woman doesn't look great.

Long unkempt hair look awful on any women, even on beauties! I see sometimes women in their 40-50s with extremely long hair (they probably thin it makes them look like Kim Kardashian). The hair is grey, no style at all and honestly they just look like witches. Andie McDowell style is nothing glamorous to me, makes her look much older!

I wear my hair shoulder length and even this long it takes a lot of care. Daily hair blower, vitamins, coloring etc.

You have difficult hair. Mine is bra strap long, thick, light brunette with baliage. I always air dry it and the maintenance is NBD - I love the olaplex 2 mask and the K18. Long hair looks good only if it's thick and healthy.

It's balayage

Gesundheit.

Do you wear hair extensions?

No. I'm a very bald man. Hadn't heard the term before. I was just having a little joke about my ignorance.

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Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

Yes but a lot of them are tall and thin. The average American woman is not Charlize Theron. Short hair on a short chubby woman doesn't look great.

Long unkempt hair look awful on any women, even on beauties! I see sometimes women in their 40-50s with extremely long hair (they probably thin it makes them look like Kim Kardashian). The hair is grey, no style at all and honestly they just look like witches. Andie McDowell style is nothing glamorous to me, makes her look much older!

I wear my hair shoulder length and even this long it takes a lot of care. Daily hair blower, vitamins, coloring etc.

You have difficult hair. Mine is bra strap long, thick, light brunette with baliage. I always air dry it and the maintenance is NBD - I love the olaplex 2 mask and the K18. Long hair looks good only if it's thick and healthy.

It's balayage

Gesundheit.

Do you wear hair extensions?

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me what a Call the manager hairstyle looks like?

Yes, happy to explain! A "call the manager" haircut is another term for a "Karen haircut," which became popular along with the term Karen generally during the 2020 BLM movement. The "Karen" concept was created by the BLM crowd and the political left to capitalize on stereotypes of annoying, entitled, demanding middle aged white Moms for political gain, like the term "welfare queen" and the "Willie Horton" ads were created in the past by the political right to capitalize on racial stereotypes. The first "Karens" were white women who over-reacted to fear of black men and called the police (most famously the Central Park Karen) and then the "Karen" concept spread further to include white women who are generally bossy (but not necessarily racist) in their everyday life, and "call the manager" right away if they are not getting what they want in a restaurant or some public place. One of the problems with the word Karen is that it is misogynistic, and a bit of a slur toward women, so even though the term was originally well-intentioned in the eyes of the political left, it actually cuts against their agenda in other ways, which is one reason the term is dying off. The "Karen" or "call the manager" haircut itself is a short, layered cut on blond, middle aged women. If you google the term Karen haircut you will see what it looks like. Some of the first Karens so go viral in restaurants happened to have this haircut, so it became part of the image, but I don't believe there is any real correlation between the haircut itself and the behavior that forms the stereotype. As a white middle aged man, personally I think cut is sexy, if the women is attractive to start with. But honestly, the haircut carries enough social and political baggage, that I would discourage my own wife from getting one. (unlike the PP, my wife and I have no difficulty giving each other honest feedback on hair, dress, etc.). Hope that helps!

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Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

Yes but a lot of them are tall and thin. The average American woman is not Charlize Theron. Short hair on a short chubby woman doesn't look great.

Long unkempt hair look awful on any women, even on beauties! I see sometimes women in their 40-50s with extremely long hair (they probably thin it makes them look like Kim Kardashian). The hair is grey, no style at all and honestly they just look like witches. Andie McDowell style is nothing glamorous to me, makes her look much older!

I wear my hair shoulder length and even this long it takes a lot of care. Daily hair blower, vitamins, coloring etc.

You have difficult hair. Mine is bra strap long, thick, light brunette with baliage. I always air dry it and the maintenance is NBD - I love the olaplex 2 mask and the K18. Long hair looks good only if it's thick and healthy.

It's balayage

Gesundheit.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, can you casually accompany her to the hair salon and comment on a magazine with various hair styles?

Am I the only one who would be way more annoyed with passive aggressive moves like this one than knowing my husband wasn't a fan of my haircut? I really dislike it when DH doesn't like something I'm doing but will beat around the bush so that he has plausible deniability, rather than just saying what he thinks. I want to know where I stand rather than having to wonder.

I'm a guy, and the conversation wouldn't be about hair, but I totally agree about hating the passive aggressive communication style. You can be direct and matter-of-fact without being accusatory or demanding. That kind of communication is way better than hinting or indirectly stating preferences and hoping your spouse reads your mind.

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Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

Yes but a lot of them are tall and thin. The average American woman is not Charlize Theron. Short hair on a short chubby woman doesn't look great.

Long unkempt hair look awful on any women, even on beauties! I see sometimes women in their 40-50s with extremely long hair (they probably thin it makes them look like Kim Kardashian). The hair is grey, no style at all and honestly they just look like witches. Andie McDowell style is nothing glamorous to me, makes her look much older!

I wear my hair shoulder length and even this long it takes a lot of care. Daily hair blower, vitamins, coloring etc.

You have difficult hair. Mine is bra strap long, thick, light brunette with baliage. I always air dry it and the maintenance is NBD - I love the olaplex 2 mask and the K18. Long hair looks good only if it's thick and healthy.

It's balayage

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Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

Yes but a lot of them are tall and thin. The average American woman is not Charlize Theron. Short hair on a short chubby woman doesn't look great.

Long unkempt hair look awful on any women, even on beauties! I see sometimes women in their 40-50s with extremely long hair (they probably thin it makes them look like Kim Kardashian). The hair is grey, no style at all and honestly they just look like witches. Andie McDowell style is nothing glamorous to me, makes her look much older!

I wear my hair shoulder length and even this long it takes a lot of care. Daily hair blower, vitamins, coloring etc.

You have difficult hair. Mine is bra strap long, thick, light brunette with baliage. I always air dry it and the maintenance is NBD - I love the olaplex 2 mask and the K18. Long hair looks good only if it's thick and healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

Who are some Europeans with short hair and different styles?

Juliette Binoche is great with wearing different hair styles