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Anonymous wrote:Public service loan forgiveness

Working at a private school isn’t a public service.

So, teachers who get paid significantly less than public school teachers and are teaching kids from the same community as the public school kids aren't doing a public service and, therefore, should not be able to apply for loan forgiveness? BTW, if the private school is a non-profit, a teacher can apply for TEPSLF provided they meet the requirements (work at school for a certain number of years, have already made at least 120 payments).

Private school kids aren’t from the same community as the public schools where you can get loan forgiveness

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public service loan forgiveness

Working at a private school isn’t a public service.

So, teachers who get paid significantly less than public school teachers and are teaching kids from the same community as the public school kids aren't doing a public service and, therefore, should not be able to apply for loan forgiveness? BTW, if the private school is a non-profit, a teacher can apply for TEPSLF provided they meet the requirements (work at school for a certain number of years, have already made at least 120 payments).

Lol, “the same community” indeed.

My spouse retired from Catholic school in Alexandria after 30 plus years. She made about 85k and the health care was abysmal, and the pension very poor. I taught ten years less in FCPS and made more and have a great pension, along with great health care. Her school has a terrible time hiring new staff, because the starting salary is so low. Many teachers leave for public school, or have spouses who make a lot of money, or are in their second career. And they are just as stressed as public school staff, although with less behavior issues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public service loan forgiveness

Working at a private school isn’t a public service.

So, teachers who get paid significantly less than public school teachers and are teaching kids from the same community as the public school kids aren't doing a public service and, therefore, should not be able to apply for loan forgiveness? BTW, if the private school is a non-profit, a teacher can apply for TEPSLF provided they meet the requirements (work at school for a certain number of years, have already made at least 120 payments).

What private school teachers get paid is up to the private schools. Tax dollars do not pay their salaries, nor should tax dollars cover their loans.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public service loan forgiveness

Working at a private school isn’t a public service.

So, teachers who get paid significantly less than public school teachers and are teaching kids from the same community as the public school kids aren't doing a public service and, therefore, should not be able to apply for loan forgiveness? BTW, if the private school is a non-profit, a teacher can apply for TEPSLF provided they meet the requirements (work at school for a certain number of years, have already made at least 120 payments).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public service loan forgiveness

Working at a private school isn’t a public service.

That's PP's point. She worked at a public school until she got the loan forgiveness; then switched to private.

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Anonymous wrote:Public service loan forgiveness

Working at a private school isn’t a public service.

The PP had been working in a public school.

Anonymous wrote:Public service loan forgiveness

Working at a private school isn’t a public service.

Public service loan forgiveness

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly true. I’m a teacher and one of my children wants to be one. She is in college now and I have done everything to discourage her from teaching. It’s not possible to make a living wage. Unless you are married to a money maker it isn’t sustainable. I think I have succeeded. She just added a second major and is less excited about being a teacher. It’s too bad, she would be amazing as a teacher.

75-100k isn't a living wage? I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.

It may not be enough to fund the lifestyle you want her to have, but be serious.

Not PP, but to me a livable wage for a career means a wage where you can afford to purchase a home and raise a family. 75k is not accomplishing that in this area

They just ask their parents for a downpayment. Duh. It's a cliche, but a LOT of private school teachers were private school KIDS and have rich parents. Even the middle aged ones started on third base. A sizeable number of teachers at my kids' school are alums.

This might be true for your kids' school, but not at any of the Big 3. In fact, there isn't a single person on our faculty who attended our school, and we have a pretty sizable faculty (yes, I'm being coy to avoid being specific). Most of us come from solidly middle-class families and, as such, do not have the resources required to live a comfortable life in this area.

My son's teacher at beauvoir was the daughter of the ncs head of school. I think she was also an alum, so maybe not "entirely" true. : )

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting read. I just left DCPS and was @ top of the PhD payscale. I’m interviewing tomorrow at a big private here in the DC area. Sounds like with 15 years experience in the classroom and a PhD I should expect around $75-80?

Why did you leave DCPS?

Because I finally could.
Finally got PSLF and don’t need to keep up the higher income.
It was a decent place for the 1st decade- but a school district that is run by a political appointee and answers to no one is a disaster waiting to happen.

What is PSLF?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sadly true. I’m a teacher and one of my children wants to be one. She is in college now and I have done everything to discourage her from teaching. It’s not possible to make a living wage. Unless you are married to a money maker it isn’t sustainable. I think I have succeeded. She just added a second major and is less excited about being a teacher. It’s too bad, she would be amazing as a teacher.

75-100k isn't a living wage? I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.

It may not be enough to fund the lifestyle you want her to have, but be serious.

Not PP, but to me a livable wage for a career means a wage where you can afford to purchase a home and raise a family. 75k is not accomplishing that in this area

They just ask their parents for a downpayment. Duh. It's a cliche, but a LOT of private school teachers were private school KIDS and have rich parents. Even the middle aged ones started on third base. A sizeable number of teachers at my kids' school are alums.

This might be true for your kids' school, but not at any of the Big 3. In fact, there isn't a single person on our faculty who attended our school, and we have a pretty sizable faculty (yes, I'm being coy to avoid being specific). Most of us come from solidly middle-class families and, as such, do not have the resources required to live a comfortable life in this area.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sadly true. I’m a teacher and one of my children wants to be one. She is in college now and I have done everything to discourage her from teaching. It’s not possible to make a living wage. Unless you are married to a money maker it isn’t sustainable. I think I have succeeded. She just added a second major and is less excited about being a teacher. It’s too bad, she would be amazing as a teacher.

75-100k isn't a living wage? I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.

It may not be enough to fund the lifestyle you want her to have, but be serious.

Not PP, but to me a livable wage for a career means a wage where you can afford to purchase a home and raise a family. 75k is not accomplishing that in this area

They just ask their parents for a downpayment. Duh. It's a cliche, but a LOT of private school teachers were private school KIDS and have rich parents. Even the middle aged ones started on third base. A sizeable number of teachers at my kids' school are alums.

Many of the private school kids in the 70s and 80s didn't have rich parents, because tuition was not as expensive relative to HHI as it is today.

In any case, do you want to limit your teacher candidates pool to people whose parents are wealthy? Is that what you are saying?

That’s the pool that you draw your students from so why not?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting read. I just left DCPS and was @ top of the PhD payscale. I’m interviewing tomorrow at a big private here in the DC area. Sounds like with 15 years experience in the classroom and a PhD I should expect around $75-80?

Why did you leave DCPS?

Because I finally could.
Finally got PSLF and don’t need to keep up the higher income.
It was a decent place for the 1st decade- but a school district that is run by a political appointee and answers to no one is a disaster waiting to happen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sadly true. I’m a teacher and one of my children wants to be one. She is in college now and I have done everything to discourage her from teaching. It’s not possible to make a living wage. Unless you are married to a money maker it isn’t sustainable. I think I have succeeded. She just added a second major and is less excited about being a teacher. It’s too bad, she would be amazing as a teacher.

75-100k isn't a living wage? I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.

It may not be enough to fund the lifestyle you want her to have, but be serious.

Not PP, but to me a livable wage for a career means a wage where you can afford to purchase a home and raise a family. 75k is not accomplishing that in this area

They just ask their parents for a downpayment. Duh. It's a cliche, but a LOT of private school teachers were private school KIDS and have rich parents. Even the middle aged ones started on third base. A sizeable number of teachers at my kids' school are alums.

Many of the private school kids in the 70s and 80s didn't have rich parents, because tuition was not as expensive relative to HHI as it is today.

In any case, do you want to limit your teacher candidates pool to people whose parents are wealthy? Is that what you are saying?