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Anonymous wrote:I notice that this hasn't been active for a year or so but have a kid who is looking for a mechanical engineering program. he visited his brother at Williams and loved the vibe of small place with engaged students, and our search led us to Rose Hulman. We are on the west coast (but when we were looking at schools for our older son i found this board really helpful so am checking it out again, thank you all), and no one here has heard of Williams or RH, but if the education is first rate and the reputation is strong with employers that seems to be the most important thing. Unfortunately the discussion here devolved into something bitter and unhelpful, but if anyone has anything elucidating to add other than what has been stated already about the seeming disconnect between reputation and admissions (location, self-selection, name recognition, gender disparity - which is indeed a concern for my son), please follow up thanks. we know nothing about RH other than what we find on its web site. Note son visited Trinity which is also small and has engineering but they dont really have specialized degrees (eg mechanical engineering) and it was clear the emphasis is still liberal arts rather than science/engineering. Swat is the same, but i dont think he could get in anyway. So he is looking at Purdue, GA Tech, the usual engineering suspects, but preferring something smaller RH may be a nice fit for him. Thank you.

My DC is looking at smaller schools for CS (and my DH is an engineer). DH has heard of Rose Hulman and says good things about it, but we didn't consider it for my lgbtq child. An acquaintance was strongly considering it for her son last year and had many great things to say about their visit there and interaction with professors etc.

My child's current favorite is Colorado School of Mines. It is bigger than RH, but not huge.

Others that were suggested but I don't have personal knowledge about:

WPI. (I really wanted my DC to look at this one - it sounds great to me. They weren't interested for whatever reason.)
Stevens Institute of Technology
Illinois Institute of Technology
University of Tulsa

Anonymous wrote:I notice that this hasn't been active for a year or so but have a kid who is looking for a mechanical engineering program. he visited his brother at Williams and loved the vibe of small place with engaged students, and our search led us to Rose Hulman. We are on the west coast (but when we were looking at schools for our older son i found this board really helpful so am checking it out again, thank you all), and no one here has heard of Williams or RH, but if the education is first rate and the reputation is strong with employers that seems to be the most important thing. Unfortunately the discussion here devolved into something bitter and unhelpful, but if anyone has anything elucidating to add other than what has been stated already about the seeming disconnect between reputation and admissions (location, self-selection, name recognition, gender disparity - which is indeed a concern for my son), please follow up thanks. we know nothing about RH other than what we find on its web site. Note son visited Trinity which is also small and has engineering but they dont really have specialized degrees (eg mechanical engineering) and it was clear the emphasis is still liberal arts rather than science/engineering. Swat is the same, but i dont think he could get in anyway. So he is looking at Purdue, GA Tech, the usual engineering suspects, but preferring something smaller RH may be a nice fit for him. Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:It's very expensive, and Purdue is a great engineering school. If you're in-state in Indiana and want to study engineering, why not head to Purdue, which is much cheaper (and also cheaper for out-of-state students by a wide margin, too).

Kind of a no brainer unless you have money to burn and need a small engineering school.

Anonymous wrote:My child is interested in small engineering schools where undergrad is the main focus. Rose Hulman tops every list for that. But it accepts something like 70% of applications. Why isn't it more popular?

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Anonymous wrote:it’s amazing to me that just because a college admits more than it rejects the DCUM assumption is that there is something fatally wrong with it.

If a college is good, more people would want to attend. That's the only reason why acceptance rate and yield rate are relevant.

Umm, no. People are not rational beings, especially with something as complex and multi-faceted as higher education. We are susceptible to marketing ploys and gimmicks and we create feedback loops. Certain things are in demand because la few people decided they were in demand, which makes them more in demand, which makes them more selective, which further drives demand and on and on. All of this happens without any change in quality between 2 institutions. That is how demand works. Perception.

Have you ever like a band that most people hiaven’t heard of? Have you ever liked a TV show that got poor ratings? Books that weren’t best sellers? I hope so; otherwise you’re the dullest person I know of.

Using what the masses like as your primary point of reference for discerning quality is lazy and just compounds the problem.

Blah Blah Blah you sound like a communist.
American college system is especially like free market and law of supply and demand well prevails.

If a school looks attractive to general public for reasons, demad goes up. Acceptance rate goes down. Yield goes up.

You sound like communist party saying general public is dumb and irrational . We figured it out all and we should be in control of everything.
Nope. Free market knows better.

NP: you just sound nutty. Communist? Seriously? That just makes you sound alt right.

Anonymous wrote:Dudes worried about the gender ratio at RHIT should keep in mind that Indiana State is just a few miles down the road, and those second-tier state school chicks love Rose dudes (and their future money!). Easy to smash!

Anonymous wrote:It's very expensive, and Purdue is a great engineering school. If you're in-state in Indiana and want to study engineering, why not head to Purdue, which is much cheaper (and also cheaper for out-of-state students by a wide margin, too).

Anonymous wrote:My child is interested in small engineering schools where undergrad is the main focus. Rose Hulman tops every list for that. But it accepts something like 70% of applications. Why isn't it more popular?

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Anonymous wrote:it’s amazing to me that just because a college admits more than it rejects the DCUM assumption is that there is something fatally wrong with it.

If a college is good, more people would want to attend. That's the only reason why acceptance rate and yield rate are relevant.

Umm, no. People are not rational beings, especially with something as complex and multi-faceted as higher education. We are susceptible to marketing ploys and gimmicks and we create feedback loops. Certain things are in demand because la few people decided they were in demand, which makes them more in demand, which makes them more selective, which further drives demand and on and on. All of this happens without any change in quality between 2 institutions. That is how demand works. Perception.

Have you ever like a band that most people hiaven’t heard of? Have you ever liked a TV show that got poor ratings? Books that weren’t best sellers? I hope so; otherwise you’re the dullest person I know of.

Using what the masses like as your primary point of reference for discerning quality is lazy and just compounds the problem.

Blah Blah Blah you sound like a communist.
American college system is especially like free market and law of supply and demand well prevails.

If a school looks attractive to general public for reasons, demad goes up. Acceptance rate goes down. Yield goes up.

You sound like communist party saying general public is dumb and irrational . We figured it out all and we should be in control of everything.
Nope. Free market knows better.

NP: you just sound nutty. Communist? Seriously? That just makes you sound alt right.

+1

Definitely getting that vibe on a few of the replies. Seems like a school that attracts lots of MAGAs.

29% "very conservative"
https://www.niche.com/colleges/rose-hulman-institute-of-technology/students/

Hard pass.

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Anonymous wrote:it’s amazing to me that just because a college admits more than it rejects the DCUM assumption is that there is something fatally wrong with it.

If a college is good, more people would want to attend. That's the only reason why acceptance rate and yield rate are relevant.

Umm, no. People are not rational beings, especially with something as complex and multi-faceted as higher education. We are susceptible to marketing ploys and gimmicks and we create feedback loops. Certain things are in demand because la few people decided they were in demand, which makes them more in demand, which makes them more selective, which further drives demand and on and on. All of this happens without any change in quality between 2 institutions. That is how demand works. Perception.

Have you ever like a band that most people hiaven’t heard of? Have you ever liked a TV show that got poor ratings? Books that weren’t best sellers? I hope so; otherwise you’re the dullest person I know of.

Using what the masses like as your primary point of reference for discerning quality is lazy and just compounds the problem.

Blah Blah Blah you sound like a communist.
American college system is especially like free market and law of supply and demand well prevails.

If a school looks attractive to general public for reasons, demad goes up. Acceptance rate goes down. Yield goes up.

You sound like communist party saying general public is dumb and irrational . We figured it out all and we should be in control of everything.
Nope. Free market knows better.

NP: you just sound nutty. Communist? Seriously? That just makes you sound alt right.