Anonymous
Post 09/06/2022 11:33     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha, I wish my kid had learned how to write cursive. We barely had printing down at our local ES before 3rd grade.


Why? It's a useless antiquated skill


Amen to this. I may have my kids work on it as I think it's a nice skill to have, but I have to laugh at the idea that people aren't smart because they can't write in cursive. Cursive came into use to preserve the quill a person would be writing with centuries ago. Later it evolved into penmanship, which is very much a class based tool to judge your background. So it's funny to me that people think the level of education is declining and they are clutching their pearls because their kids don't have this obsolete skill.

I remember our teachers drilling us for whole class periods to learn to write cursive. It's the 21st century. I'd much rather my kids be learning knowledge or skills that will actually benefit them, like math, science, basic computer science/coding, etc.


Welcome to the modern American educational system where penman, spelling, grammar, or any sort of differentiation by ability level are all racist and elitist.


Did you mean penmanship? Yes, your elitism is really showing.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2022 03:07     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Plenty of jobs, particularly in this area, will not allow note taking on a computer for security reasons. Handwriting is a life skill— assuming your kids send thank you notes after birthdays, etc.

But…I see why classroom time can’t necessarily be used teaching it anymore, and so we teach cursive at home. My DC is young enough to think it’s a fun throwback to mommy’s old fashioned school.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 20:19     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penmanship (print and cursive) is still a big deal for most other countries. In France kids still have to use fountain pens. Same in Japan. The US is unique in de-emphasizing penmanship, which goes back to the push towards standardized tests during the No Child Left Behind era. (Penmanship was of course not part of any standardized test.) But the shift was already in place during the previous Thousand Points of Lights era, as the focus shifted to computers in schools. Now schools have 1:1 iPad/laptop programs. Physical notebooks are a thing of the past for many students.


Maybe it’s my age, but I find I remember lessons better if I take notes with pen and paper rather than type them on a word document. I also find I have more freedom to mark up and edit paper drafts when I can do so by hand.


No, it's not your age... it's brain research.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 19:17     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Who knew that all these elementary school students needed to be trained for future careers as calligraphers and scribes?

I personally will not rest until pens and pencils—newfangled tech garbage— are rightfully replaced by quills and ink pots.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 13:07     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:Penmanship (print and cursive) is still a big deal for most other countries. In France kids still have to use fountain pens. Same in Japan. The US is unique in de-emphasizing penmanship, which goes back to the push towards standardized tests during the No Child Left Behind era. (Penmanship was of course not part of any standardized test.) But the shift was already in place during the previous Thousand Points of Lights era, as the focus shifted to computers in schools. Now schools have 1:1 iPad/laptop programs. Physical notebooks are a thing of the past for many students.


Maybe it’s my age, but I find I remember lessons better if I take notes with pen and paper rather than type them on a word document. I also find I have more freedom to mark up and edit paper drafts when I can do so by hand.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 13:03     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha, I wish my kid had learned how to write cursive. We barely had printing down at our local ES before 3rd grade.


Why? It's a useless antiquated skill


Amen to this. I may have my kids work on it as I think it's a nice skill to have, but I have to laugh at the idea that people aren't smart because they can't write in cursive. Cursive came into use to preserve the quill a person would be writing with centuries ago. Later it evolved into penmanship, which is very much a class based tool to judge your background. So it's funny to me that people think the level of education is declining and they are clutching their pearls because their kids don't have this obsolete skill.

I remember our teachers drilling us for whole class periods to learn to write cursive. It's the 21st century. I'd much rather my kids be learning knowledge or skills that will actually benefit them, like math, science, basic computer science/coding, etc.


Welcome to the modern American educational system where penman, spelling, grammar, or any sort of differentiation by ability level are all racist and elitist.


+1000
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 13:02     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.


Exactly, that's why print or cursive handwriting in general is no longer part of the US public school curricula in a major way. The only downside is that handwriting is becoming much harder to read. There are however elite private schools in Silicon Valley that eschew personal computing devices and stress textbooks and handwriting. This old-school philosophy appeals to the engineers and others in the tech industry there who reject a lot of what they preach in public.


Yeah, as a teacher, I am starting to be a fan of the old ways.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 12:06     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha, I wish my kid had learned how to write cursive. We barely had printing down at our local ES before 3rd grade.


Why? It's a useless antiquated skill


Amen to this. I may have my kids work on it as I think it's a nice skill to have, but I have to laugh at the idea that people aren't smart because they can't write in cursive. Cursive came into use to preserve the quill a person would be writing with centuries ago. Later it evolved into penmanship, which is very much a class based tool to judge your background. So it's funny to me that people think the level of education is declining and they are clutching their pearls because their kids don't have this obsolete skill.

I remember our teachers drilling us for whole class periods to learn to write cursive. It's the 21st century. I'd much rather my kids be learning knowledge or skills that will actually benefit them, like math, science, basic computer science/coding, etc.


Welcome to the modern American educational system where penman, spelling, grammar, or any sort of differentiation by ability level are all racist and elitist.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 11:36     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.


Exactly, that's why print or cursive handwriting in general is no longer part of the US public school curricula in a major way. The only downside is that handwriting is becoming much harder to read. There are however elite private schools in Silicon Valley that eschew personal computing devices and stress textbooks and handwriting. This old-school philosophy appeals to the engineers and others in the tech industry there who reject a lot of what they preach in public.


It appeals to me but we can’t afford private.


Get a cursive book at the store or on Amazon.

Have your kids practice handwriting by corresponding with relatives.

Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 08:43     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.


Exactly, that's why print or cursive handwriting in general is no longer part of the US public school curricula in a major way. The only downside is that handwriting is becoming much harder to read. There are however elite private schools in Silicon Valley that eschew personal computing devices and stress textbooks and handwriting. This old-school philosophy appeals to the engineers and others in the tech industry there who reject a lot of what they preach in public.


It appeals to me but we can’t afford private.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2022 23:47     Subject: Cursive Banned?

23 Year old college grad, It takes me while to read cursive....
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2022 22:27     Subject: Cursive Banned?

My kid with beautiful cursive was told she had to print in 3rd grade until cursive was formally introduced, at around the tail end. It was exceedingly frustrating.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2022 14:45     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.


Exactly, that's why print or cursive handwriting in general is no longer part of the US public school curricula in a major way. The only downside is that handwriting is becoming much harder to read. There are however elite private schools in Silicon Valley that eschew personal computing devices and stress textbooks and handwriting. This old-school philosophy appeals to the engineers and others in the tech industry there who reject a lot of what they preach in public.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2022 14:35     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, and be sure to name the school. No one ever does, so it will be a novelty. [/quote
Dp

Mine learned it at Navy 3rd grade in the 2020-2021 school year.evwn had a workbook, the only one we've seen in 6 years of fcps.


Okay, that’s great. Still in use?


The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2022 14:29     Subject: Cursive Banned?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, and be sure to name the school. No one ever does, so it will be a novelty. [/quote
Dp

Mine learned it at Navy 3rd grade in the 2020-2021 school year.evwn had a workbook, the only one we've seen in 6 years of fcps.


Okay, that’s great. Still in use?