Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ha, I wish my kid had learned how to write cursive. We barely had printing down at our local ES before 3rd grade.
Why? It's a useless antiquated skill
Amen to this. I may have my kids work on it as I think it's a nice skill to have, but I have to laugh at the idea that people aren't smart because they can't write in cursive. Cursive came into use to preserve the quill a person would be writing with centuries ago. Later it evolved into penmanship, which is very much a class based tool to judge your background. So it's funny to me that people think the level of education is declining and they are clutching their pearls because their kids don't have this obsolete skill.
I remember our teachers drilling us for whole class periods to learn to write cursive. It's the 21st century. I'd much rather my kids be learning knowledge or skills that will actually benefit them, like math, science, basic computer science/coding, etc.
Welcome to the modern American educational system where penman, spelling, grammar, or any sort of differentiation by ability level are all racist and elitist.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Penmanship (print and cursive) is still a big deal for most other countries. In France kids still have to use fountain pens. Same in Japan. The US is unique in de-emphasizing penmanship, which goes back to the push towards standardized tests during the No Child Left Behind era. (Penmanship was of course not part of any standardized test.) But the shift was already in place during the previous Thousand Points of Lights era, as the focus shifted to computers in schools. Now schools have 1:1 iPad/laptop programs. Physical notebooks are a thing of the past for many students.
Maybe it’s my age, but I find I remember lessons better if I take notes with pen and paper rather than type them on a word document. I also find I have more freedom to mark up and edit paper drafts when I can do so by hand.
Anonymous wrote:Penmanship (print and cursive) is still a big deal for most other countries. In France kids still have to use fountain pens. Same in Japan. The US is unique in de-emphasizing penmanship, which goes back to the push towards standardized tests during the No Child Left Behind era. (Penmanship was of course not part of any standardized test.) But the shift was already in place during the previous Thousand Points of Lights era, as the focus shifted to computers in schools. Now schools have 1:1 iPad/laptop programs. Physical notebooks are a thing of the past for many students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ha, I wish my kid had learned how to write cursive. We barely had printing down at our local ES before 3rd grade.
Why? It's a useless antiquated skill
Amen to this. I may have my kids work on it as I think it's a nice skill to have, but I have to laugh at the idea that people aren't smart because they can't write in cursive. Cursive came into use to preserve the quill a person would be writing with centuries ago. Later it evolved into penmanship, which is very much a class based tool to judge your background. So it's funny to me that people think the level of education is declining and they are clutching their pearls because their kids don't have this obsolete skill.
I remember our teachers drilling us for whole class periods to learn to write cursive. It's the 21st century. I'd much rather my kids be learning knowledge or skills that will actually benefit them, like math, science, basic computer science/coding, etc.
Welcome to the modern American educational system where penman, spelling, grammar, or any sort of differentiation by ability level are all racist and elitist.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.
Exactly, that's why print or cursive handwriting in general is no longer part of the US public school curricula in a major way. The only downside is that handwriting is becoming much harder to read. There are however elite private schools in Silicon Valley that eschew personal computing devices and stress textbooks and handwriting. This old-school philosophy appeals to the engineers and others in the tech industry there who reject a lot of what they preach in public.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ha, I wish my kid had learned how to write cursive. We barely had printing down at our local ES before 3rd grade.
Why? It's a useless antiquated skill
Amen to this. I may have my kids work on it as I think it's a nice skill to have, but I have to laugh at the idea that people aren't smart because they can't write in cursive. Cursive came into use to preserve the quill a person would be writing with centuries ago. Later it evolved into penmanship, which is very much a class based tool to judge your background. So it's funny to me that people think the level of education is declining and they are clutching their pearls because their kids don't have this obsolete skill.
I remember our teachers drilling us for whole class periods to learn to write cursive. It's the 21st century. I'd much rather my kids be learning knowledge or skills that will actually benefit them, like math, science, basic computer science/coding, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.
Exactly, that's why print or cursive handwriting in general is no longer part of the US public school curricula in a major way. The only downside is that handwriting is becoming much harder to read. There are however elite private schools in Silicon Valley that eschew personal computing devices and stress textbooks and handwriting. This old-school philosophy appeals to the engineers and others in the tech industry there who reject a lot of what they preach in public.
It appeals to me but we can’t afford private.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.
Exactly, that's why print or cursive handwriting in general is no longer part of the US public school curricula in a major way. The only downside is that handwriting is becoming much harder to read. There are however elite private schools in Silicon Valley that eschew personal computing devices and stress textbooks and handwriting. This old-school philosophy appeals to the engineers and others in the tech industry there who reject a lot of what they preach in public.
Anonymous wrote:
The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh, and be sure to name the school. No one ever does, so it will be a novelty. [/quote
Dp
Mine learned it at Navy 3rd grade in the 2020-2021 school year.evwn had a workbook, the only one we've seen in 6 years of fcps.
Okay, that’s great. Still in use?
The only handwritten stuff I see from my child is math. Last year everything appeared to be done on the computer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh, and be sure to name the school. No one ever does, so it will be a novelty. [/quote
Dp
Mine learned it at Navy 3rd grade in the 2020-2021 school year.evwn had a workbook, the only one we've seen in 6 years of fcps.
Okay, that’s great. Still in use?