I am pissed. Wtf? He hasn’t done anything to deserve missing out on his last day! He didn’t deserve to be kicked out like that. He was just telling me about his little buddies and doesn’t get to say goodbye.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

You’re just yelling about how it’s not working for you, but this is how it is. People routinely switch jobs, move, etc to manage children. You’re not entitled to childcare.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

It is a standard policy that diarrhea gets a kid sent home. The end. No one is picking on you and your child. My youngest was in a cycle with some kind of chronic stomach issue where I was getting called to pick her up on and off for weeks and then she couldn't return for 24 hours. I feel your pain. It is what it is. You or your spouse need a more flexible job is what it sounds like.

Also, acting like your kid having diarrhea in a pull up is no big deal for the staff is not great. It is a big deal.

There are exceptions for chronic medical issues with a doctor‘s note. So not the end. Op make sure you provide enough medical documentation next time. And be sure to get an IEP for school that covers these issues.

Those exceptions only apply if the reasonable accommodation does not impose an undue burden on the camp. Taking away 25% of the staff from the other campers (thereby lowering the ratio in the event of an emergency) because of a child with diarrhea would absolutely constitute an undue burden— which you know, but are hoping if you say ADA loud enough the camp will be afraid of being sued. Doing this is harmful to people with actual ADA complaints because this mother, and the poster telling her to claim ADA, believe that they are entitled to childcare. You are not.


It is also, by the way, extremely unlikely your pediatrician would write a note saying that this constitutes a disability because they can also be questioned in the process and they don’t want to jeopardize their legitimately disabled patients.

Sorry my friend went through this and you can not exclude children with bonafide medical disabilities. Yes the school had to provide an aid for the child. In this case OP has said there were only 2-3 occasions during the entire camp which means it would be a very very small accomodation. Much less than my friend's child needed.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

You’re just yelling about how it’s not working for you, but this is how it is. People routinely switch jobs, move, etc to manage children. You’re not entitled to childcare.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think they are kicking him out because of accidents or because they think he's done anything wrong. It sounds like it's an illness policy and it's bad luck it happens to be on the last day of camp.

+1 After a bout of diarrhea, they require a child to be diarrhea free for 24 hours before they can return. It’s a standard policy. Your ds wasn’t “kicked out.” They aren’t obligated to handle diarrhea.

It really sucks. I’m sorry your ds has had such bad constipation. I’m sorry he doesn’t get to enjoy the last day of camp. I’m sorry you don’t have childcare for tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

It is a standard policy that diarrhea gets a kid sent home. The end. No one is picking on you and your child. My youngest was in a cycle with some kind of chronic stomach issue where I was getting called to pick her up on and off for weeks and then she couldn't return for 24 hours. I feel your pain. It is what it is. You or your spouse need a more flexible job is what it sounds like.

Also, acting like your kid having diarrhea in a pull up is no big deal for the staff is not great. It is a big deal.

There are exceptions for chronic medical issues with a doctor‘s note. So not the end. Op make sure you provide enough medical documentation next time. And be sure to get an IEP for school that covers these issues.

Those exceptions only apply if the reasonable accommodation does not impose an undue burden on the camp. Taking away 25% of the staff from the other campers (thereby lowering the ratio in the event of an emergency) because of a child with diarrhea would absolutely constitute an undue burden— which you know, but are hoping if you say ADA loud enough the camp will be afraid of being sued. Doing this is harmful to people with actual ADA complaints because this mother, and the poster telling her to claim ADA, believe that they are entitled to childcare. You are not.


It is also, by the way, extremely unlikely your pediatrician would write a note saying that this constitutes a disability because they can also be questioned in the process and they don’t want to jeopardize their legitimately disabled patients.

Sorry my friend went through this and you can not exclude children with bonafide medical disabilities. Yes the school had to provide an aid for the child. In this case OP has said there were only 2-3 occasions during the entire camp which means it would be a very very small accomodation. Much less than my friend's child needed.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

It is a standard policy that diarrhea gets a kid sent home. The end. No one is picking on you and your child. My youngest was in a cycle with some kind of chronic stomach issue where I was getting called to pick her up on and off for weeks and then she couldn't return for 24 hours. I feel your pain. It is what it is. You or your spouse need a more flexible job is what it sounds like.

Also, acting like your kid having diarrhea in a pull up is no big deal for the staff is not great. It is a big deal.

There are exceptions for chronic medical issues with a doctor‘s note. So not the end. Op make sure you provide enough medical documentation next time. And be sure to get an IEP for school that covers these issues.

Those exceptions only apply if the reasonable accommodation does not impose an undue burden on the camp. Taking away 25% of the staff from the other campers (thereby lowering the ratio in the event of an emergency) because of a child with diarrhea would absolutely constitute an undue burden— which you know, but are hoping if you say ADA loud enough the camp will be afraid of being sued. Doing this is harmful to people with actual ADA complaints because this mother, and the poster telling her to claim ADA, believe that they are entitled to childcare. You are not.


It is also, by the way, extremely unlikely your pediatrician would write a note saying that this constitutes a disability because they can also be questioned in the process and they don’t want to jeopardize their legitimately disabled patients.

Sorry my friend went through this and you can not exclude children with bonafide medical disabilities. Yes the school had to provide an aid for the child. In this case OP has said there were only 2-3 occasions during the entire camp which means it would be a very very small accomodation. Much less than my friend's child needed.

I think she said the child is having diarrhea 2-3 times a day.

He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

It is a standard policy that diarrhea gets a kid sent home. The end. No one is picking on you and your child. My youngest was in a cycle with some kind of chronic stomach issue where I was getting called to pick her up on and off for weeks and then she couldn't return for 24 hours. I feel your pain. It is what it is. You or your spouse need a more flexible job is what it sounds like.

Also, acting like your kid having diarrhea in a pull up is no big deal for the staff is not great. It is a big deal.

There are exceptions for chronic medical issues with a doctor‘s note. So not the end. Op make sure you provide enough medical documentation next time. And be sure to get an IEP for school that covers these issues.

Those exceptions only apply if the reasonable accommodation does not impose an undue burden on the camp. Taking away 25% of the staff from the other campers (thereby lowering the ratio in the event of an emergency) because of a child with diarrhea would absolutely constitute an undue burden— which you know, but are hoping if you say ADA loud enough the camp will be afraid of being sued. Doing this is harmful to people with actual ADA complaints because this mother, and the poster telling her to claim ADA, believe that they are entitled to childcare. You are not.


It is also, by the way, extremely unlikely your pediatrician would write a note saying that this constitutes a disability because they can also be questioned in the process and they don’t want to jeopardize their legitimately disabled patients.

Sorry my friend went through this and you can not exclude children with bonafide medical disabilities. Yes the school had to provide an aid for the child. In this case OP has said there were only 2-3 occasions during the entire camp which means it would be a very very small accomodation. Much less than my friend's child needed.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

It is a standard policy that diarrhea gets a kid sent home. The end. No one is picking on you and your child. My youngest was in a cycle with some kind of chronic stomach issue where I was getting called to pick her up on and off for weeks and then she couldn't return for 24 hours. I feel your pain. It is what it is. You or your spouse need a more flexible job is what it sounds like.

Also, acting like your kid having diarrhea in a pull up is no big deal for the staff is not great. It is a big deal.

There are exceptions for chronic medical issues with a doctor‘s note. So not the end. Op make sure you provide enough medical documentation next time. And be sure to get an IEP for school that covers these issues.

Those exceptions only apply if the reasonable accommodation does not impose an undue burden on the camp. Taking away 25% of the staff from the other campers (thereby lowering the ratio in the event of an emergency) because of a child with diarrhea would absolutely constitute an undue burden— which you know, but are hoping if you say ADA loud enough the camp will be afraid of being sued. Doing this is harmful to people with actual ADA complaints because this mother, and the poster telling her to claim ADA, believe that they are entitled to childcare. You are not.


It is also, by the way, extremely unlikely your pediatrician would write a note saying that this constitutes a disability because they can also be questioned in the process and they don’t want to jeopardize their legitimately disabled patients.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The camp knew from the beginning that my child was dealing with this on-going problem and was therefore in pull-ups. He had very few accidents the entire summer until he began this miralax routine and has had 2 incidents that I'm aware of (there could be a 3rd but I'm not sure about it). Children do not need to be potty trained at this camp and these are not high school students caring for kids. It's actually a very expensive camp but was the ONLY summer camps for children his age that was full-time. He's been dealing with this medical condition for 6+ months but typically, it doesn't have significant impact on his ability to engage with his peers and participate in activities. He loves being with friends, is social, and I'm not going to deprive him of positive social experiences with peers in the summer because of this problem that's only been a "major" issue twice this summer....so what 20-25 minutes of time the entire summer??

He's on a regular dose of miralax now that he takes daily. The actual cleanse, he stayed home.

I don't know about you all but I only get 11 days of sick time a year. My husband gets much less. When school starts and sicknesses start circulating...kids are often required to be out for 2 full school days. This adds up real quick. We have to work, we cannot live on one income so to just think it's no big deal to just keep him home because of the possibility of having an episode of diarrhea....I cannot. I simply do not have that kind of time. I will lose my job. He needs to go to the childcare that I have prepared and I go to work. Before someone suggest, "just get a nanny"....I am not wealthy. I simply cannot afford a nanny.

I'm not entitled but I do want my child to have access to the same experiences as his peers and to be able to enjoy his summer with his little buddies.

It is a standard policy that diarrhea gets a kid sent home. The end. No one is picking on you and your child. My youngest was in a cycle with some kind of chronic stomach issue where I was getting called to pick her up on and off for weeks and then she couldn't return for 24 hours. I feel your pain. It is what it is. You or your spouse need a more flexible job is what it sounds like.

Also, acting like your kid having diarrhea in a pull up is no big deal for the staff is not great. It is a big deal.

There are exceptions for chronic medical issues with a doctor‘s note. So not the end. Op make sure you provide enough medical documentation next time. And be sure to get an IEP for school that covers these issues.