Anonymous
Post 07/29/2022 00:12     Subject: Re:1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Asian


Know three kids with perfect scores: 1 Asian male, 1 white male, 1 white female. All of them also had perfect SAT subject tests. All had 4.0 u/w GPAs. All played sports, all were varsity captains. All had great ECs, the female also had published science research. Males rejected in SCEA at an Ivy, female deferred at an Ivy. In the end, both males got into an Ivy RD and female was rejected at all Ivies in RD, now headed to a top liberal arts school.

If anything, RD seemed to break better for boys than girls based on observing my DC's graduating class.


That was true for my daughter, class of 2021. Perfect scores, perfect grades. Strong extracurriculars. Rejected or waitlisted at HYP, Stanford, Penn, Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown. Got into Duke, Northwestern, Columbia, Chicago, and the Michigan and Maryland honors programs.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 23:38     Subject: 1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what does it take to get into the top schools then? Perfect scores and GPA with good APs, well rounded... what else could they possibly be looking for?


Something interesting...a patent, a national lever award, owning a business


I guess.

But are these competitive colleges only looking for early bloomers?

Late bloomers can and do do amazing things, often far outpacing the early bloomers.

Not saying early bloomers aren't doing amazing things, but there are exceptional people who aren't doing exceptional things in high school.

How to find these people is the question.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 22:50     Subject: Re:1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s one for the UVA boosters.

Son had a 36 ACT and was accepted everywhere but UVA. He would have been out of state. He is at his first choice…a top 20…not an ivy.

Have fun bumping this comment UVA fans.



That’s actually not surprising. The 75th percentile of entering first year students last year at UVA had a 35, so those above had a 36. Also that is the score for f the students who actually showed up. The scores of those accepted are even higher but some go off to Ivies or great SLACs. My UVA kid had a 36 and was valedictorian and Gold Award


You (or someone else) keeps saying the 75th percentile was a 35 ACT. I haven’t heard 1) What percentage of those applying and entering submitted scores? 2) What percent of test submitters sent ACT scores? Without knowing the answers to these questions, the 35 ACT statistic isn’t that helpful. I am sure that information is out there somewhere!
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 22:24     Subject: Re:1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:Here’s one for the UVA boosters.

Son had a 36 ACT and was accepted everywhere but UVA. He would have been out of state. He is at his first choice…a top 20…not an ivy.

Have fun bumping this comment UVA fans.



That’s actually not surprising. The 75th percentile of entering first year students last year at UVA had a 35, so those above had a 36. Also that is the score for f the students who actually showed up. The scores of those accepted are even higher but some go off to Ivies or great SLACs. My UVA kid had a 36 and was valedictorian and Gold Award
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 21:45     Subject: 1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Geez. Considering only about 500 score 1600 on the SAT each year, every single one of their parents must be on this board.


Meh, no big deal on 1600.

My kid scored 1600 while blindfolded. He did his bubbles randomly.


One sitting with no prep, I bet.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 21:02     Subject: 1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:Geez. Considering only about 500 score 1600 on the SAT each year, every single one of their parents must be on this board.


Meh, no big deal on 1600.

My kid scored 1600 while blindfolded. He did his bubbles randomly.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 20:41     Subject: 1600 and Rejected?
Geez. Considering only about 500 score 1600 on the SAT each year, every single one of their parents must be on this board.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 20:28     Subject: 1600 and Rejected?
White, fullpay, MCPS 2021 graduate, 36 ACT, 4.68 WGPA, Varsity athlete, leadership, strong ECs outside of athletics, summer job held for several years, volunteered with young kids during Covid, the complete package (my nephew - a great kid). Rejected at Harvard, MI, UNC, waitlisted at Vanderbilt. Not at any of those schools - at what DCUM would consider a third rate school and is very happy
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 19:55     Subject: Re:1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:My older is a rising senior, with an almost 4.0 gpa (she had 2 Bs), 8 APs going into senior yr with all 5s (and will take 6 more AP classes sr year), and a 1600 sat. We’ve been advised by her private college counselor that ivies and like (duke etc) are unrealistic for her, so her reaches are colleges like Wash U which we’re still advised are a long shot.


We must have the same college counselor, PP. My kid - also MCPS with 2 Bs and the rest As, 36 ACT (one sitting if anyone actually cares), 4.75 WGPA, 12 APs and decent, but not stand out ECs has been told the same. Applying to a few top 20 schools, one ED, but not applying to any ivies…
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 19:30     Subject: Re:1600 and Rejected?
Here’s one for the UVA boosters.

Son had a 36 ACT and was accepted everywhere but UVA. He would have been out of state. He is at his first choice…a top 20…not an ivy.

Have fun bumping this comment UVA fans.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 18:28     Subject: Peanuts. He is getting Re:1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Asian


This. My kid has 1600, 4.0, NMS, ECs, magnet curriculum, 12 APs, full pay, internship and was rejected from some highly selective schools for cs. No biggie. Going to state school with generous merit scholarship, double major, research opportunity etc.

He is getting a new car and 25K from us as a thank you for saving us a ton of money.


My URM scored 1580 (one sitting) on his SATs, 4.6 GPA with all 5 APs,NMF- He was rejected at both of his reach schools Georgetown (SFS) and Northwestern. He is at UMD honors with the presidential scholarship and NMF money. We bought him a brand new car, are paying for 2 study abroad programs and he will have money for grad school.


Congratulations to your child.

This is the plan that is in place for my high achieving URM kid. Last fall as a sophomore he scored a 1560 on his SAT on his first try without any prep. I do not want my kid to go into debt for any school. UMD is definitely at the top of his list because he rather save money for grad school or a down payment on a house.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 17:42     Subject: 1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is 20 years ago, but I had a friend who had a perfect SAT and ACT and was rejected from Harvard.


Sounds like a dud


Brilliant response. YOU sounds like a dud
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 17:29     Subject: Re:1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Asian


This is trite. It has never been the case that universities just went to the highest GPAs/SATs and admitted from the top down on that list. They’ve always wanted a mix of capabilities and talents. So just because anecdotally you know someone was accepted with lower GPA/SAT than your Asian kid who did not, does not imply sinister racism. That’s true of lots of kinds of people, and has been for a long time. We need to stop looking at college matriculation as a referendum on ourselves.



Yes, colleges are looking for diversity in student profiles. They need humanities and arts majors, not just stem, and want students from different states, countries, and socioeconomic levels. Not just diversity in race and ethnicity. Kids in the DMV are at such a disadvantage because there are so many high achievers with near-identical profiles competing for a limited number of spots in the region. I’ve joked about moving to Iowa for a few years for this reason!


Yes, DMV is tough, but come to NYC. Much steeper odds.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 17:28     Subject: Re:1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:If Asian


Know three kids with perfect scores: 1 Asian male, 1 white male, 1 white female. All of them also had perfect SAT subject tests. All had 4.0 u/w GPAs. All played sports, all were varsity captains. All had great ECs, the female also had published science research. Males rejected in SCEA at an Ivy, female deferred at an Ivy. In the end, both males got into an Ivy RD and female was rejected at all Ivies in RD, now headed to a top liberal arts school.

If anything, RD seemed to break better for boys than girls based on observing my DC's graduating class.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 17:16     Subject: Re:1600 and Rejected?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Asian


This is trite. It has never been the case that universities just went to the highest GPAs/SATs and admitted from the top down on that list. They’ve always wanted a mix of capabilities and talents. So just because anecdotally you know someone was accepted with lower GPA/SAT than your Asian kid who did not, does not imply sinister racism. That’s true of lots of kinds of people, and has been for a long time. We need to stop looking at college matriculation as a referendum on ourselves.



Yes, colleges are looking for diversity in student profiles. They need humanities and arts majors, not just stem, and want students from different states, countries, and socioeconomic levels. Not just diversity in race and ethnicity. Kids in the DMV are at such a disadvantage because there are so many high achievers with near-identical profiles competing for a limited number of spots in the region. I’ve joked about moving to Iowa for a few years for this reason!