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Anonymous wrote:LOVE my Volvo XC-90.The range on the new ones is longer for all electric mode. Handles like a dream. My audiophile spouse prefers my speakers to his BMW's.

No, a 5000+ pound Volvo SUV doesn’t handle like a dream. It’s a perfectly capable and lovely suburban cruiser with near premium ride quality that fills a market niche but comes with several shortcomings like no DC fast charging and dated infotainment system. The seats are top of class and the B&W sound system is only surpassed by Acura in this part of the market (BMW isn’t exactly known for the quality of its HK sound systems). Volvo needs to revive the V70R.

Funny you should mention the Acura sound system. My 2008 RDX tech had amazing sound. AMAZING.

Every car we've driven since has paled in comparison. Acura set the bar high.

I'm the potential i4 buyer. We'll likely splurge on the upgraded HK speakers. We didn't upgrade on our last vehicle purchase and goodness, the sound SUCKS.

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Anonymous wrote:LOVE my Volvo XC-90.The range on the new ones is longer for all electric mode. Handles like a dream. My audiophile spouse prefers my speakers to his BMW's.

No, a 5000+ pound Volvo SUV doesn’t handle like a dream. It’s a perfectly capable and lovely suburban cruiser with near premium ride quality that fills a market niche but comes with several shortcomings like no DC fast charging and dated infotainment system. The seats are top of class and the B&W sound system is only surpassed by Acura in this part of the market (BMW isn’t exactly known for the quality of its HK sound systems). Volvo needs to revive the V70R.

Anonymous wrote:LOVE my Volvo XC-90.The range on the new ones is longer for all electric mode. Handles like a dream. My audiophile spouse prefers my speakers to his BMW's.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this. SERIOUSLY considering our first EV. We weren't thinking electric -- we drove and liked the SQ5, S5, and Macan.

Then we went to BMW and drove the i4 M50. What a joy. Fast and smooth. DH has driven Teslas and the EV6, and likes the BMW better. Really nearby solid dealer with service loaners, too.

Installing a level 2 charger may be a pain, but it's in the same price range as the others and we'll save on gas and oil changes, which will reduce the cost of the charger install.

Our other car is a minivan, so we don't need space. This car will be for daily commutes and the occasion weekend jaunt. Backseat will be rarely used. Kids are out of rear-facing carseats.

This will be our first car purchase in 20 years where we didn't get a very hefty discount. It's tough to swallow, but at least we can build out the car we want, which we've never done.

I saw one person on this forum who's bought an i4 M50. If that person or others have any thoughts, I'd appreciate them!

I would encourage you to carefully run the numbers in terms of the assumed cost savings for an EV, particularly after factoring in the premium+mark-up for an EV and cost of installing a 240v charger. Your “break even” may be much farther down the road than you think. And can you realistically live with the EV range for longer trips?

The charger may be eligible for a tax credit, as may the car. And it's possible to find EVs that cost less than premium gas cars (our VW ID.4 was about $46,000 before the tax credit, plenty of people drive around in new cars that cost way more).

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this. SERIOUSLY considering our first EV. We weren't thinking electric -- we drove and liked the SQ5, S5, and Macan.

Then we went to BMW and drove the i4 M50. What a joy. Fast and smooth. DH has driven Teslas and the EV6, and likes the BMW better. Really nearby solid dealer with service loaners, too.

Installing a level 2 charger may be a pain, but it's in the same price range as the others and we'll save on gas and oil changes, which will reduce the cost of the charger install.

Our other car is a minivan, so we don't need space. This car will be for daily commutes and the occasion weekend jaunt. Backseat will be rarely used. Kids are out of rear-facing carseats.

This will be our first car purchase in 20 years where we didn't get a very hefty discount. It's tough to swallow, but at least we can build out the car we want, which we've never done.

I saw one person on this forum who's bought an i4 M50. If that person or others have any thoughts, I'd appreciate them!

I would encourage you to carefully run the numbers in terms of the assumed cost savings for an EV, particularly after factoring in the premium+mark-up for an EV and cost of installing a 240v charger. Your “break even” may be much farther down the road than you think. And can you realistically live with the EV range for longer trips?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bumping this. SERIOUSLY considering our first EV. We weren't thinking electric -- we drove and liked the SQ5, S5, and Macan.

Then we went to BMW and drove the i4 M50. What a joy. Fast and smooth. DH has driven Teslas and the EV6, and likes the BMW better. Really nearby solid dealer with service loaners, too.

Installing a level 2 charger may be a pain, but it's in the same price range as the others and we'll save on gas and oil changes, which will reduce the cost of the charger install.

Our other car is a minivan, so we don't need space. This car will be for daily commutes and the occasion weekend jaunt. Backseat will be rarely used. Kids are out of rear-facing carseats.

This will be our first car purchase in 20 years where we didn't get a very hefty discount. It's tough to swallow, but at least we can build out the car we want, which we've never done.

I saw one person on this forum who's bought an i4 M50. If that person or others have any thoughts, I'd appreciate them!

I would encourage you to carefully run the numbers in terms of the assumed cost savings for an EV, particularly after factoring in the premium+mark-up for an EV and cost of installing a 240v charger. Your “break even” may be much farther down the road than you think. And can you realistically live with the EV range for longer trips?

Lol

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this. SERIOUSLY considering our first EV. We weren't thinking electric -- we drove and liked the SQ5, S5, and Macan.

Then we went to BMW and drove the i4 M50. What a joy. Fast and smooth. DH has driven Teslas and the EV6, and likes the BMW better. Really nearby solid dealer with service loaners, too.

Installing a level 2 charger may be a pain, but it's in the same price range as the others and we'll save on gas and oil changes, which will reduce the cost of the charger install.

Our other car is a minivan, so we don't need space. This car will be for daily commutes and the occasion weekend jaunt. Backseat will be rarely used. Kids are out of rear-facing carseats.

This will be our first car purchase in 20 years where we didn't get a very hefty discount. It's tough to swallow, but at least we can build out the car we want, which we've never done.

I saw one person on this forum who's bought an i4 M50. If that person or others have any thoughts, I'd appreciate them!

I would encourage you to carefully run the numbers in terms of the assumed cost savings for an EV, particularly after factoring in the premium+mark-up for an EV and cost of installing a 240v charger. Your “break even” may be much farther down the road than you think. And can you realistically live with the EV range for longer trips?

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this. SERIOUSLY considering our first EV. We weren't thinking electric -- we drove and liked the SQ5, S5, and Macan.

Then we went to BMW and drove the i4 M50. What a joy. Fast and smooth. DH has driven Teslas and the EV6, and likes the BMW better. Really nearby solid dealer with service loaners, too.

Installing a level 2 charger may be a pain, but it's in the same price range as the others and we'll save on gas and oil changes, which will reduce the cost of the charger install.

Our other car is a minivan, so we don't need space. This car will be for daily commutes and the occasion weekend jaunt. Backseat will be rarely used. Kids are out of rear-facing carseats.

This will be our first car purchase in 20 years where we didn't get a very hefty discount. It's tough to swallow, but at least we can build out the car we want, which we've never done.

I saw one person on this forum who's bought an i4 M50. If that person or others have any thoughts, I'd appreciate them!

I would encourage you to carefully run the numbers in terms of the assumed cost savings for an EV, particularly after factoring in the premium+mark-up for an EV and cost of installing a 240v charger. Your “break even” may be much farther down the road than you think. And can you realistically live with the EV range for longer trips?

Anonymous wrote:Bumping this. SERIOUSLY considering our first EV. We weren't thinking electric -- we drove and liked the SQ5, S5, and Macan.

Then we went to BMW and drove the i4 M50. What a joy. Fast and smooth. DH has driven Teslas and the EV6, and likes the BMW better. Really nearby solid dealer with service loaners, too.

Installing a level 2 charger may be a pain, but it's in the same price range as the others and we'll save on gas and oil changes, which will reduce the cost of the charger install.

Our other car is a minivan, so we don't need space. This car will be for daily commutes and the occasion weekend jaunt. Backseat will be rarely used. Kids are out of rear-facing carseats.

This will be our first car purchase in 20 years where we didn't get a very hefty discount. It's tough to swallow, but at least we can build out the car we want, which we've never done.

I saw one person on this forum who's bought an i4 M50. If that person or others have any thoughts, I'd appreciate them!

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Anonymous wrote:Volvo XC40

Ford is crap.

Volvo is some Chinese e car these days, good luck

Chinese owned, designed & built in Sweden >>>>>> Ford crap

I didn’t know Sweden was known for their technologies. I understand women in Sweden are beautiful, but engineering and technology?

Anonymous wrote:LOVE my Volvo XC-90.The range on the new ones is longer for all electric mode. Handles like a dream. My audiophile spouse prefers my speakers to his BMW's.