Anonymous
07/25/2022 15:00
Subject: Re:Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He's actually right. Did you listen to what he said?
He said, unless you are seeking an occupation in something that requires college, don't go....And, with the debt that is such a burden for so many young people today, it is wise advice.
Far too many kids go to college with no clue about what they want to do. Better to figure that out before you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to figure it out.
He was essentially saying, "Don't be afraid to take risks." Nothing wrong with that.
Take risks, be a plumber...fine. live that life as am educated person instead of an uneducated person.
Exactly, isn't this what community colleges are for, do two years for minimal expense, get a good liberal arts foundation, and then if you want to keep going, two more years to pay for, which doesn't equate to hundreds of thousands. My plumber has a bachelor's degree, is very well read, subscribes to the NY Times and WAPO, loves jazz and classical music, and is a season ticket holder at the Kennedy Center, and has a number of interests outside of the blue-collar world of plumbing. His line of work gives him freedom and financial security to pursue his many interests, interests that were introduced to him through the foundation of his liberal arts studies.
Also, he thinks Fox News is a clown show car wreck with a few two many circus rings.
The average DCUMer thinks every tradesman is a toothless rube though because Americans for some reason put more stock racking up debt on a liberal arts degree that gets you a $55,000 salary than a trade job that gets you $75/hr. Attitudes about trade school are more refined in Germany, Italy, etc.
Go to your local Mercedes dealer and asks what a mechanic makes. It’ll be way more than what a Communications major makes…
Right. Because every trade school graduate or heck, trades person, is protected in the same way as your German tradesperson. Look at the big picture. Nobody cares about your little anecdotes.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 14:58
Subject: Re:Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He's actually right. Did you listen to what he said?
He said, unless you are seeking an occupation in something that requires college, don't go....And, with the debt that is such a burden for so many young people today, it is wise advice.
Far too many kids go to college with no clue about what they want to do. Better to figure that out before you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to figure it out.
He was essentially saying, "Don't be afraid to take risks." Nothing wrong with that.
Take risks, be a plumber...fine. live that life as am educated person instead of an uneducated person.
Exactly, isn't this what community colleges are for, do two years for minimal expense, get a good liberal arts foundation, and then if you want to keep going, two more years to pay for, which doesn't equate to hundreds of thousands. My plumber has a bachelor's degree, is very well read, subscribes to the NY Times and WAPO, loves jazz and classical music, and is a season ticket holder at the Kennedy Center, and has a number of interests outside of the blue-collar world of plumbing. His line of work gives him freedom and financial security to pursue his many interests, interests that were introduced to him through the foundation of his liberal arts studies.
Also, he thinks Fox News is a clown show car wreck with a few two many circus rings.
Oh yeah? Well my plumber has a part time job teaching CRT to preschoolers AND recycles.
Ivy humor I suppose.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 14:55
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:The only kids who made it out of my dying rust belt town are the ones who went to college. The rest stayed behind and got addicted to opioids. Adventure, I guess. But one I would prefer my children skip. So 529s it is.
Spot on. Tucker knows he's preaching is a one-way ticket to misery and continued serfdom. He doesn't care. This isn't by accident, this is Conservative Inc. think tank crap. The billionaires who control the right know college educated people become broadminded, thus no longer gullible enough to fall for their trickle down bullsh*t and wedge issues like guns and pro-life while they get robbed blind by right wing oligarchs.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 14:53
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m old enough to remember that Tucker Carlson had to ask a certain second son of the current President to get his kid into Georgetown.
And it's ironic his kid didn't get in. He went to UVA. My son's good friend lived in his dorm. The joke was that he would brag who his dad is in the first five minutes of making an acquaintance. A bunch of 18-year-old liberal kids were not impressed.
I just love 3rd-hand anecdotes. They’re so obviously made up.
So then why exactly did they not go ivy?
Anonymous
07/25/2022 14:49
Subject: Re:Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tucker couldn't be more of a rich out of touch empty nester cliche if he tried. All the striver upper middle class and rich kids are doing these odd jobs out west, backpacking somewhere obscure or various Third World "adventures" during college or for a year right after college... as a "personality" hook for law school, medical school, or to get a job in tech, politics, or on Wall Street. It's so cringe that Tucker thinks this is a novel idea. Trump Jr was a ski bum for a year or two after Wharton. Pretty sure Tucker's son was a fly fishing instructor for a year before getting a gig on the Hill. Wow, some slacker job where you can binge drink all night and avoid real life, so exciting and adventurous! Ironically, this is essentially what AOC was doing with her bartender gig in the NYC. It's teases out laziness and stupidity and is a source of ridicule when a college educated Latina does it, it's "adventurous" when some nitwit rich white boy does it?
AOC was bartending at night while community organizing during the day IIRC.
Gasp!! You mean she had to actually earn a living, under her own power & wits?
Anonymous
07/25/2022 14:16
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only kids who made it out of my dying rust belt town are the ones who went to college. The rest stayed behind and got addicted to opioids. Adventure, I guess. But one I would prefer my children skip. So 529s it is.
I suspect you dont know this for sure, and are assuming that the ONLY two paths for your schoolmates were staying home or leaving for college. People make a lot of assumptions about the paths that are taken to success. Most poor kids struggle to do well in college if they go immediately-- it can be more beneficial to wait a few years to gain maturity and independence.
Exactly. I’d wager that way more kids spend tens of thousands of dollars to attend a few years of college and drop out rather than those who attend trade schools and drop out.
And again arguing that more working class kids should attend trade schools is a talking point of Dems like Joe Biden and Tim Ryan. Everything isn’t bad because Tucker agrees with it. Grow up.
Whats interesting is that as college rates have increased, SES mobility rates have decreased. So the evidence that this advice (go to college) should not be standard issue to every child is there for anyone willing to see it. But its heresy so most people wont.
But if you don’t go, odds are that you all down even more. College isn’t sufficient any more. But it is necessary. Why do you think the kids of this doofus didn’t skip college?
Anonymous
07/25/2022 14:13
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only kids who made it out of my dying rust belt town are the ones who went to college. The rest stayed behind and got addicted to opioids. Adventure, I guess. But one I would prefer my children skip. So 529s it is.
I suspect you dont know this for sure, and are assuming that the ONLY two paths for your schoolmates were staying home or leaving for college. People make a lot of assumptions about the paths that are taken to success. Most poor kids struggle to do well in college if they go immediately-- it can be more beneficial to wait a few years to gain maturity and independence.
Exactly. I’d wager that way more kids spend tens of thousands of dollars to attend a few years of college and drop out rather than those who attend trade schools and drop out.
And again arguing that more working class kids should attend trade schools is a talking point of Dems like Joe Biden and Tim Ryan. Everything isn’t bad because Tucker agrees with it. Grow up.
Whats interesting is that as college rates have increased, SES mobility rates have decreased. So the evidence that this advice (go to college) should not be standard issue to every child is there for anyone willing to see it. But its heresy so most people wont.
If true, this is a very interesting insight. Any links for this? Thanks.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 13:16
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
A child’s first teacher is their mother. Tucker wanted the mother of his children and family homemaker to be a smart woman with a boarding school and bachelor’s degree pedigree. But the males who watch his show should impregnate any local low class trash they can lure into bed and let an uneducated idiot raise their kids? And before you say that’s not the males only option — let us know how many non-college educated males his daughters would ever date. (Zero.) College educated women do not date lower class college dropouts nor would lower class men without degrees have that social or dating pool to tap. Dating apps are a non-starter for males like that too.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 13:11
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
College isn't the path for everyone, and shouldn't be, but "adventure" doesn't happen without some money some how.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 13:11
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m old enough to remember that Tucker Carlson had to ask a certain second son of the current President to get his kid into Georgetown.
And it's ironic his kid didn't get in. He went to UVA. My son's good friend lived in his dorm. The joke was that he would brag who his dad is in the first five minutes of making an acquaintance. A bunch of 18-year-old liberal kids were not impressed.
I just love 3rd-hand anecdotes. They’re so obviously made up.
There is nothing made up about Tucker “college is pointless” Carlson trying to get his son into Georgetown. Documented fact. There is nothing made up about all of his kids being stereotypical UVA Greek life rich kids. There is nothing made up about his own kids having the so-called fluff bachelor’s degrees and big city “jobs” he claims are soul crushing and a waste of life.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 12:58
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only kids who made it out of my dying rust belt town are the ones who went to college. The rest stayed behind and got addicted to opioids. Adventure, I guess. But one I would prefer my children skip. So 529s it is.
I suspect you dont know this for sure, and are assuming that the ONLY two paths for your schoolmates were staying home or leaving for college. People make a lot of assumptions about the paths that are taken to success. Most poor kids struggle to do well in college if they go immediately-- it can be more beneficial to wait a few years to gain maturity and independence.
I think I understand it a lot more than Tucker Carlson.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 12:50
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Tucker is gross. Adventure with four kids? Only if mom is doing all the work.
However even a stopped clock is right twice per day. Community college, trade school or in-state non flagship are what my oldest will be doing.
However even a stopped clock is right twice per day. Community college, trade school or in-state non flagship are what my oldest will be doing.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 12:50
Subject: Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only kids who made it out of my dying rust belt town are the ones who went to college. The rest stayed behind and got addicted to opioids. Adventure, I guess. But one I would prefer my children skip. So 529s it is.
I suspect you dont know this for sure, and are assuming that the ONLY two paths for your schoolmates were staying home or leaving for college. People make a lot of assumptions about the paths that are taken to success. Most poor kids struggle to do well in college if they go immediately-- it can be more beneficial to wait a few years to gain maturity and independence.
Exactly. I’d wager that way more kids spend tens of thousands of dollars to attend a few years of college and drop out rather than those who attend trade schools and drop out.
And again arguing that more working class kids should attend trade schools is a talking point of Dems like Joe Biden and Tim Ryan. Everything isn’t bad because Tucker agrees with it. Grow up.
Whats interesting is that as college rates have increased, SES mobility rates have decreased. So the evidence that this advice (go to college) should not be standard issue to every child is there for anyone willing to see it. But its heresy so most people wont.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 12:49
Subject: Re:Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He's actually right. Did you listen to what he said?
He said, unless you are seeking an occupation in something that requires college, don't go....And, with the debt that is such a burden for so many young people today, it is wise advice.
Far too many kids go to college with no clue about what they want to do. Better to figure that out before you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to figure it out.
He was essentially saying, "Don't be afraid to take risks." Nothing wrong with that.
Take risks, be a plumber...fine. live that life as am educated person instead of an uneducated person.
Exactly, isn't this what community colleges are for, do two years for minimal expense, get a good liberal arts foundation, and then if you want to keep going, two more years to pay for, which doesn't equate to hundreds of thousands. My plumber has a bachelor's degree, is very well read, subscribes to the NY Times and WAPO, loves jazz and classical music, and is a season ticket holder at the Kennedy Center, and has a number of interests outside of the blue-collar world of plumbing. His line of work gives him freedom and financial security to pursue his many interests, interests that were introduced to him through the foundation of his liberal arts studies.
Also, he thinks Fox News is a clown show car wreck with a few two many circus rings.
The average DCUMer thinks every tradesman is a toothless rube though because Americans for some reason put more stock racking up debt on a liberal arts degree that gets you a $55,000 salary than a trade job that gets you $75/hr. Attitudes about trade school are more refined in Germany, Italy, etc.
Go to your local Mercedes dealer and asks what a mechanic makes. It’ll be way more than what a Communications major makes…
What trade jobs are paying $75/hr? Electric lineman? Most of the skilled trades are squarely in the $50-$60k territory. Nothing to sneeze at, but getting in and getting trained isn’t free anymore and it takes time to work up to that. I had relatives who couldn’t get in to an apprenticeship even with trade school credentials.
Your average Mercedes “technician” is probably making $25/hr for a job he paid $15-$20k to train to get. Cars are just giant computers on wheels.
The choice of “he” is very deliberate. These jobs aren’t open in any real way to women. The exceptions only prove the rule. Nursing is the only thing that comes close for women, and that’s only in desperate times. And you don’t get that job without formal paid-for training.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 12:42
Subject: Re:Tucker Carlson tells college students to "drop out & seek adventure"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He's actually right. Did you listen to what he said?
He said, unless you are seeking an occupation in something that requires college, don't go....And, with the debt that is such a burden for so many young people today, it is wise advice.
Far too many kids go to college with no clue about what they want to do. Better to figure that out before you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to figure it out.
He was essentially saying, "Don't be afraid to take risks." Nothing wrong with that.
Take risks, be a plumber...fine. live that life as am educated person instead of an uneducated person.
Exactly, isn't this what community colleges are for, do two years for minimal expense, get a good liberal arts foundation, and then if you want to keep going, two more years to pay for, which doesn't equate to hundreds of thousands. My plumber has a bachelor's degree, is very well read, subscribes to the NY Times and WAPO, loves jazz and classical music, and is a season ticket holder at the Kennedy Center, and has a number of interests outside of the blue-collar world of plumbing. His line of work gives him freedom and financial security to pursue his many interests, interests that were introduced to him through the foundation of his liberal arts studies.
Also, he thinks Fox News is a clown show car wreck with a few two many circus rings.
The average DCUMer thinks every tradesman is a toothless rube though because Americans for some reason put more stock racking up debt on a liberal arts degree that gets you a $55,000 salary than a trade job that gets you $75/hr. Attitudes about trade school are more refined in Germany, Italy, etc.
Go to your local Mercedes dealer and asks what a mechanic makes. It’ll be way more than what a Communications major makes…
Nice hypocrisy you got there, stereotyping people as stereotypers.