Anonymous wrote:They just updated, Elrich is up 276.

Anonymous wrote:I'm absolutely baffled how anyone could possibly say Elrich and MoCo handled the pandemic well.

It was an unmitigated disaster. MoCo was SO SLOW at rolling out the vaccine because of so much bureaucracy crap. So many people in MoCo had to go to outside of the county to get vaxxed as mass vaccination sites. I got my vaccine literally months ahead of when MoCo scheduled me to get it thanks to Larry Hogan and the mass vax site at 6 Flags. My partner got it at the Hagerstown mass vax site. Neither of us could get a vax in MoCo because it was so friggin slow. So dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Votes are being counted based on when they were received. I think old people are more likely to get their ballot in the day they received it, while working folks may have taken more time (like me.. I was on a business trip when it arrived).

Well, that's my hope at least... I figure older people more likely to vote for Elrich because of his great Covid lockdowns, including keeping public libraries and playgrounds closed while all surrounding jurisdictions had already reopened them.

Elrich was always expected to do well with the mail-in vote. It is a demographic that generally trends older which favors him. What was unexpected is how well he would do.

It is pretty clear at this stage that Elrich will win. The only question will be the margin of victory.

Hans Riemer should be ashamed of himself.

Not yet, let's give it a few more days. If the trend continues, then yes. But his percentage of votes was lower with yesterday's count than it was from Thursday's.

The idea that Blair is going to make up votes among the remaining mail-in and provisional ballots is far fetched. The mail-in voter population is not representative of the county as a whole.

You can't say that after everyone was forced to vote mail in last time, during COVID. We are used to it now. And the unprecedented number of mail in ballots shows that.

And you can't say that when the election was pushed into mid-July, during the height of vacation season, when many people had pre-booked vacations and have no choice other than to vote by mail in.

This year is not like every other year. At all.

It remains absolutely true that mail-in voters continue to trend older. The pandemic did not change that.

In fact, applying your own reasoning, the county making it easier to vote by mail may have increased the voting participation of older voters.

Show me proof. Otherwise, it's conjecture.

Denial is a river in Africa.

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Anonymous wrote:Votes are being counted based on when they were received. I think old people are more likely to get their ballot in the day they received it, while working folks may have taken more time (like me.. I was on a business trip when it arrived).

Well, that's my hope at least... I figure older people more likely to vote for Elrich because of his great Covid lockdowns, including keeping public libraries and playgrounds closed while all surrounding jurisdictions had already reopened them.

Elrich was always expected to do well with the mail-in vote. It is a demographic that generally trends older which favors him. What was unexpected is how well he would do.

It is pretty clear at this stage that Elrich will win. The only question will be the margin of victory.

Hans Riemer should be ashamed of himself.

Not yet, let's give it a few more days. If the trend continues, then yes. But his percentage of votes was lower with yesterday's count than it was from Thursday's.

The idea that Blair is going to make up votes among the remaining mail-in and provisional ballots is far fetched. The mail-in voter population is not representative of the county as a whole.

You can't say that after everyone was forced to vote mail in last time, during COVID. We are used to it now. And the unprecedented number of mail in ballots shows that.

And you can't say that when the election was pushed into mid-July, during the height of vacation season, when many people had pre-booked vacations and have no choice other than to vote by mail in.

This year is not like every other year. At all.

It remains absolutely true that mail-in voters continue to trend older. The pandemic did not change that.

In fact, applying your own reasoning, the county making it easier to vote by mail may have increased the voting participation of older voters.

Show me proof. Otherwise, it's conjecture.

Anonymous wrote:Blair trying to purchase election and his huge huge sign at the polling place dwarfing all others did not give me a good vibe.

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Anonymous wrote:Votes are being counted based on when they were received. I think old people are more likely to get their ballot in the day they received it, while working folks may have taken more time (like me.. I was on a business trip when it arrived).

Well, that's my hope at least... I figure older people more likely to vote for Elrich because of his great Covid lockdowns, including keeping public libraries and playgrounds closed while all surrounding jurisdictions had already reopened them.

Elrich was always expected to do well with the mail-in vote. It is a demographic that generally trends older which favors him. What was unexpected is how well he would do.

It is pretty clear at this stage that Elrich will win. The only question will be the margin of victory.

Hans Riemer should be ashamed of himself.

Not yet, let's give it a few more days. If the trend continues, then yes. But his percentage of votes was lower with yesterday's count than it was from Thursday's.

The idea that Blair is going to make up votes among the remaining mail-in and provisional ballots is far fetched. The mail-in voter population is not representative of the county as a whole.

Elrich made up the difference with the first 2 days of mail-in ballots. It's just as possible for Blair to swing it the other way with the remainder of ballots, which is a larger number than what was already counted.

You are failing to understand the point. The mail-in population favors Elrich. The fact that he made up the difference easily in just two days means that he will probably continue to pull further ahead in the coming days.

It is no “equally possible” that the mail-in vote swings back to Blair because the average mail-in voter is an Elrich voter.

So far, the mail in vote favors Elrich. But only a small portion of it has been counted.

We have no idea if the mail in ballots counted so far are representative of all mail in ballots or if they sleep towards Elrich based on which precincts they counted first. My money has always been on Elrich winning but I haven't totally lost hope that Blair can pull this off.

You are hanging onto false hope and as a result spreading misinformation. The idea that there is a “batch” of mail-in ballots heavily favoring Blair is fanciful.

Not that poster, but nobody here can predict anything. Including you.

You are applying hope versus basic reasoning. The overall population of mail-in vote was always expected to favor Elrich and Elrich is favored by older voters countywide. So if you are hoping that there are geographic pockets of pro-Blair elderly voters, they don’t really exist.

After Election Day, Elrich only needed to have a 2.5% margin the estimated mail-in ballots to make up Blairs advantage. About half of the mail-in vote has already been counted. You do the math on what margin Blair must win in the remaining vote to win.

If you do not believe me then I ask you to consider who would you rather be right now, Elrich or Blair? Not a single person would rather be in Blair’s shoes right now and that’s all that needs to be known.

The election is over.

Why would you assume older voters will favor Elrich? I always knew older voters to be more conservative. The only people who actively support Elrich are older hippies and just in Takoma Park, and younger DSA/Bernie Sanders supporters.

I’m sorry but at this stage if you don’t understand the basic dynamics of Montgomery County politics I don’t have a couple hours to explain it to you. The short answer is below.

Elrich: all old people, Black people, old TPSS liberals, public sector unions (except police)
Riemer: online progressive yuppies
Blair: business, normal workaday people who don’t think about politics daily

NP. I disagree with you about Blair. While I may be a “normal workaday” person, I am also deeply concerned about local politics. That’s actually why I support Blair. He seems to be the best balance for the council.

I know of plenty of “normal workaday people” who voted for Elrich and they are fine with him and appreciate how he handled the pandemic. They pay attention to local politics at a surface level, aren’t into the granular issues of zoning and all that, but they were turned off by all the negative ads so they stuck with Elrich.

I’m fine with how he handled the pandemic, but there are other issues he hasn’t handled well at all. I see a direct link between the county’s increased crime and his treatment of our police department. I’m all for reform, but reforming shouldn’t mean reducing our force (either directly by cutting units or indirectly by causing plummeting morale).

It’s quite bad and getting worse and will continue if Elrich is re-elected.

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Anonymous wrote:Votes are being counted based on when they were received. I think old people are more likely to get their ballot in the day they received it, while working folks may have taken more time (like me.. I was on a business trip when it arrived).

Well, that's my hope at least... I figure older people more likely to vote for Elrich because of his great Covid lockdowns, including keeping public libraries and playgrounds closed while all surrounding jurisdictions had already reopened them.

Elrich was always expected to do well with the mail-in vote. It is a demographic that generally trends older which favors him. What was unexpected is how well he would do.

It is pretty clear at this stage that Elrich will win. The only question will be the margin of victory.

Hans Riemer should be ashamed of himself.

Not yet, let's give it a few more days. If the trend continues, then yes. But his percentage of votes was lower with yesterday's count than it was from Thursday's.

The idea that Blair is going to make up votes among the remaining mail-in and provisional ballots is far fetched. The mail-in voter population is not representative of the county as a whole.

Elrich made up the difference with the first 2 days of mail-in ballots. It's just as possible for Blair to swing it the other way with the remainder of ballots, which is a larger number than what was already counted.

You are failing to understand the point. The mail-in population favors Elrich. The fact that he made up the difference easily in just two days means that he will probably continue to pull further ahead in the coming days.

It is no “equally possible” that the mail-in vote swings back to Blair because the average mail-in voter is an Elrich voter.

So far, the mail in vote favors Elrich. But only a small portion of it has been counted.

We have no idea if the mail in ballots counted so far are representative of all mail in ballots or if they sleep towards Elrich based on which precincts they counted first. My money has always been on Elrich winning but I haven't totally lost hope that Blair can pull this off.

You are hanging onto false hope and as a result spreading misinformation. The idea that there is a “batch” of mail-in ballots heavily favoring Blair is fanciful.

Not that poster, but nobody here can predict anything. Including you.

You are applying hope versus basic reasoning. The overall population of mail-in vote was always expected to favor Elrich and Elrich is favored by older voters countywide. So if you are hoping that there are geographic pockets of pro-Blair elderly voters, they don’t really exist.

After Election Day, Elrich only needed to have a 2.5% margin the estimated mail-in ballots to make up Blairs advantage. About half of the mail-in vote has already been counted. You do the math on what margin Blair must win in the remaining vote to win.

If you do not believe me then I ask you to consider who would you rather be right now, Elrich or Blair? Not a single person would rather be in Blair’s shoes right now and that’s all that needs to be known.

The election is over.

Why would you assume older voters will favor Elrich? I always knew older voters to be more conservative. The only people who actively support Elrich are older hippies and just in Takoma Park, and younger DSA/Bernie Sanders supporters.

I’m sorry but at this stage if you don’t understand the basic dynamics of Montgomery County politics I don’t have a couple hours to explain it to you. The short answer is below.

Elrich: all old people, Black people, old TPSS liberals, public sector unions (except police)
Riemer: online progressive yuppies
Blair: business, normal workaday people who don’t think about politics daily

NP. I disagree with you about Blair. While I may be a “normal workaday” person, I am also deeply concerned about local politics. That’s actually why I support Blair. He seems to be the best balance for the council.

I know of plenty of “normal workaday people” who voted for Elrich and they are fine with him and appreciate how he handled the pandemic. They pay attention to local politics at a surface level, aren’t into the granular issues of zoning and all that, but they were turned off by all the negative ads so they stuck with Elrich.

I’m fine with how he handled the pandemic, but there are other issues he hasn’t handled well at all. I see a direct link between the county’s increased crime and his treatment of our police department. I’m all for reform, but reforming shouldn’t mean reducing our force (either directly by cutting units or indirectly by causing plummeting morale).

It’s quite bad and getting worse and will continue if Elrich is re-elected.

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Anonymous wrote:Votes are being counted based on when they were received. I think old people are more likely to get their ballot in the day they received it, while working folks may have taken more time (like me.. I was on a business trip when it arrived).

Well, that's my hope at least... I figure older people more likely to vote for Elrich because of his great Covid lockdowns, including keeping public libraries and playgrounds closed while all surrounding jurisdictions had already reopened them.

Elrich was always expected to do well with the mail-in vote. It is a demographic that generally trends older which favors him. What was unexpected is how well he would do.

It is pretty clear at this stage that Elrich will win. The only question will be the margin of victory.

Hans Riemer should be ashamed of himself.

Not yet, let's give it a few more days. If the trend continues, then yes. But his percentage of votes was lower with yesterday's count than it was from Thursday's.

The idea that Blair is going to make up votes among the remaining mail-in and provisional ballots is far fetched. The mail-in voter population is not representative of the county as a whole.

You can't say that after everyone was forced to vote mail in last time, during COVID. We are used to it now. And the unprecedented number of mail in ballots shows that.

And you can't say that when the election was pushed into mid-July, during the height of vacation season, when many people had pre-booked vacations and have no choice other than to vote by mail in.

This year is not like every other year. At all.

It remains absolutely true that mail-in voters continue to trend older. The pandemic did not change that.

In fact, applying your own reasoning, the county making it easier to vote by mail may have increased the voting participation of older voters.

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Anonymous wrote:Votes are being counted based on when they were received. I think old people are more likely to get their ballot in the day they received it, while working folks may have taken more time (like me.. I was on a business trip when it arrived).

Well, that's my hope at least... I figure older people more likely to vote for Elrich because of his great Covid lockdowns, including keeping public libraries and playgrounds closed while all surrounding jurisdictions had already reopened them.

Elrich was always expected to do well with the mail-in vote. It is a demographic that generally trends older which favors him. What was unexpected is how well he would do.

It is pretty clear at this stage that Elrich will win. The only question will be the margin of victory.

Hans Riemer should be ashamed of himself.

Not yet, let's give it a few more days. If the trend continues, then yes. But his percentage of votes was lower with yesterday's count than it was from Thursday's.

The idea that Blair is going to make up votes among the remaining mail-in and provisional ballots is far fetched. The mail-in voter population is not representative of the county as a whole.

Elrich made up the difference with the first 2 days of mail-in ballots. It's just as possible for Blair to swing it the other way with the remainder of ballots, which is a larger number than what was already counted.

You are failing to understand the point. The mail-in population favors Elrich. The fact that he made up the difference easily in just two days means that he will probably continue to pull further ahead in the coming days.

It is no “equally possible” that the mail-in vote swings back to Blair because the average mail-in voter is an Elrich voter.

So far, the mail in vote favors Elrich. But only a small portion of it has been counted.

We have no idea if the mail in ballots counted so far are representative of all mail in ballots or if they sleep towards Elrich based on which precincts they counted first. My money has always been on Elrich winning but I haven't totally lost hope that Blair can pull this off.

You are hanging onto false hope and as a result spreading misinformation. The idea that there is a “batch” of mail-in ballots heavily favoring Blair is fanciful.

Not that poster, but nobody here can predict anything. Including you.

You are applying hope versus basic reasoning. The overall population of mail-in vote was always expected to favor Elrich and Elrich is favored by older voters countywide. So if you are hoping that there are geographic pockets of pro-Blair elderly voters, they don’t really exist.

After Election Day, Elrich only needed to have a 2.5% margin the estimated mail-in ballots to make up Blairs advantage. About half of the mail-in vote has already been counted. You do the math on what margin Blair must win in the remaining vote to win.

If you do not believe me then I ask you to consider who would you rather be right now, Elrich or Blair? Not a single person would rather be in Blair’s shoes right now and that’s all that needs to be known.

The election is over.

Why would you assume older voters will favor Elrich? I always knew older voters to be more conservative. The only people who actively support Elrich are older hippies and just in Takoma Park, and younger DSA/Bernie Sanders supporters.

I’m sorry but at this stage if you don’t understand the basic dynamics of Montgomery County politics I don’t have a couple hours to explain it to you. The short answer is below.

Elrich: all old people, Black people, old TPSS liberals, public sector unions (except police)
Riemer: online progressive yuppies
Blair: business, normal workaday people who don’t think about politics daily

NP. I disagree with you about Blair. While I may be a “normal workaday” person, I am also deeply concerned about local politics. That’s actually why I support Blair. He seems to be the best balance for the council.

I know of plenty of “normal workaday people” who voted for Elrich and they are fine with him and appreciate how he handled the pandemic. They pay attention to local politics at a surface level, aren’t into the granular issues of zoning and all that, but they were turned off by all the negative ads so they stuck with Elrich.

I’m fine with how he handled the pandemic, but there are other issues he hasn’t handled well at all. I see a direct link between the county’s increased crime and his treatment of our police department. I’m all for reform, but reforming shouldn’t mean reducing our force (either directly by cutting units or indirectly by causing plummeting morale).